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Ameco A380 MRO Plan Seen As Air China A380 Hint  
User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

Ameco Beijing’s plan to invest $80 million in new hangar facilities provides the clearest indication to date that Chinese flag carrier Air China is eyeing the launch of Airbus A380 operations in time for the country’s Olympic Games in 2008.

...Air China is known to have been discussing the acquisition of A380s through a lease deal with International Lease Finance. Guangzhou-based China Southern Airlines is the country’s only declared A380 customer (with orders for five) and plans that the aircraft will enter service before the Beijing Olympics in August 2008.

“You could expect Air China might be appearing in ILFC´s books,” says Ameco Beijing executive director of support and marketing Hans Seeger...

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles.../Ameco+prepares+A380+MRO+plan.html

This would take care of the 5 A380pax ILFC has on firm order.

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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Thread starter):
This would take care of the 5 A380pax ILFC has on firm order.

I don't know much about the Chinese aviation market really, so this is a good chance to learn some more about it. I thought Air China is the national airline aimed at linking the world with Beijing, whereas the other airlines are focusing more on the different regions of the vast country.

Since the Olympics will be held in Beijing and China is such a centrally run country, would 5 A380s for Air China be enough? If China Southern can operate 5 of these huge planes, surely Air China can make good use of a multitude of that number?


The article says:
Air China is known to have been discussing the acquisition of A380s through a lease deal with International Lease Finance.
so it is very possible they have been indeed thinking of taking up the 5 A380s on order by ILFC, but it does not say it is limited to these 5 only...

And since:
Two 350 x 110m (1,150 x 360ft) hangars are planned, capable of accommodating two A380s, two Boeing 747-400s and two 777-300ERs at the same time.
I'd say it may hint at more than 5 A380s.

Anybody know how many planes the current facilities of Ameco in Beijing can accomodate and how many more new 747-400 or 777-300ER Air China is expecting?


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Thread starter):
This would take care of the 5 A380pax ILFC has on firm order.

Don't think so. SAA have also shown interest in taking some of those A380 from ILFC. They may take some but not all.

It could also be possible that ILFC could convert some of the A380F into the A388.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):
Don't think so. SAA have also shown interest in taking some of those A380 from ILFC. They may take some but not all.

Although airline sources say SAA is unlikely to commit to a long-term lease on an A380 before finalising its separation from parent Transnet, which awaits government legislation, the airline may need to make a decision soon if it wants to introduce the ultra-large aircraft this decade. Akoum says that leasing companies are unlikely to have any A380s available for delivery before 2009, while Airbus’s earliest free slot is 2011.

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...+move+through+ILFC+lease+deal.html


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 3):
Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):
Don't think so. SAA have also shown interest in taking some of those A380 from ILFC. They may take some but not all.

Although airline sources say SAA is unlikely to commit to a long-term lease on an A380 before finalising its separation from parent Transnet, which awaits government legislation, the airline may need to make a decision soon if it wants to introduce the ultra-large aircraft this decade. Akoum says that leasing companies are unlikely to have any A380s available for delivery before 2009, while Airbus�s earliest free slot is 2011.

The report in not conclusive. The word unlikely pops up twice.

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

Prior to the program delay, ILFC was scheduled to take delivery of 8 A380s by the end of 09 (2 - '07, 2 - '08, 4 - '09) and 2 in '10. I don't have data as to how this was to be split by variant.

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 5):
Prior to the program delay, ILFC was scheduled to take delivery of 8 A380s by the end of 09 (2 - '07, 2 - '08, 4 - '09) and 2 in '10. I don't have data as to how this was to bernsplit by variant.

Well EK converted their 2 A388F into the Pax model. We have to assume that now that the A388F is also running late, ILFC may be interested in converting some of their freighters on order into the pax model.

By doing this they manage to allocate more easily those A380 on order. This may also imply that ILFC may be willing to place a further A380 order.

I believe that ILFC do not hold any options at this current time. Can anyone confirm this?

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 6):
I believe that ILFC do not hold any options at this current time. Can anyone confirm this?

No options. Sorry, can't provide you with a link, it comes from a proprietary service my office subscribes to.


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