Cgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1077 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (7 years ago) and read 5332 times:
Very interesting and positive development for DTW. I have not had the chance to use DTW for quite a few years. I've heard a lot of positive comments about the McNamara Terminal so I expect the new North terminal should be a welcomed improvement. Well, to be honest anything is an improvement over the Berry Terminal, what a disgrace!
One thing I found very interesting in the article was the new terminal hasn't been named after anyone yet. What's wrong with calling it simply North Terminal? Why name it after some obscure politician/personality/sports figure most people couldn't care less about?
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5154 times:
How many gates are at the current Smith terminal? I was just wondering what gate allocation might look like with 26 gates with a few international ones.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7673 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5019 times:
Actually a rather anonoymous glass and steel structure from the outside. But it looks really well thought out, open and airy, which is a big plus. Overall a very nice facility, if not all that exciting from an architectual standpoint.
The only major downside is that it looks like the walk from the parking garage to the terminal is rather long.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
Hjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 847 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
Quoting TWFirst (Reply 4): Will the two terminals be linked at all (by rail/people mover)??
I think that that's asking too much. Rail link between terminals! I would be all for it, but in reality, there is no reason to have anything else than a bus, and at best, it will be after exiting security and everything. The airport is planned is such a way, that there will be minimal if any connections between terminals required, and this is because Northwest and it's partners will use their terminal, and the other airlines will use the north terminal. Unless you really searching for bargain fares, and end up flying spirit to Detroit, and then connecting onto NW for International flight or something, but that rarely happens.
Airlines at Mcnamara Terminal (after opening of North Terminal):
Northwest, Delta, Continental, AirFrance, KLM, (all skyteam airlines)
Airlines at North Terminal:
Lufthansa, British Airways, Royal Jordanain, American Airlines, United, UsAirways/AWA, Spirit, Southwest, AirTran, Frontier, Charters, and any other non skyteam airlines.
I'm impressed, but I don't really understand the use of colors in the terminal... Do they mean colors, or materials? Wood is a material in my opinion. I think however, that they should develop the terminal so that it can be easily expanded. The airport is reducing the number of gates, so there might be a chance that there will be a need for more gates.
The baggage area looks immense, and that will be welcome. A very nice place to meet relatives at Thanksgiving or Christmas.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3586 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4938 times:
How much of concourse C is left? THe last time i was there they had taken off the "extension" that was built a while back.
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Hjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 847 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4896 times:
The extension was taken off a long time ago because it was too long, and not needed after NW's move. Spirit uses concourse C, so it won't be demolished until the North Terminal comes online. So to answer your question, half of Concourse C still remains.
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4852 times:
Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 1): One thing I found very interesting in the article was the new terminal hasn't been named after anyone yet. What's wrong with calling it simply North Terminal?
I'm sure McNamara will name it after himself again, even though he didn't do **** on the World Gateway, of which NW pretty much did everything on their own, I really don't think it was right of the City of Detroit to name NW's terminal after McNamara, when they didnt do anything. It should be simply the Northwest World Gateway as NW recognizes it.
Quoting TWFirst (Reply 6): It would be cool if they could extend the tram from McNamera, out the north end of the terminal, and over to the new terminal.
There is no reason too, like one said, unless expedia gives you an odd routing, there should be absolutely no reason why any passenger from the North Terminal would need to go to the NW terminal.
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4852 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 13): I'm sure McNamara will name it after himself again,
He died this year, so not an issue.
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 13): really don't think it was right of the City of Detroit to name NW's terminal after McNamara, when they didnt do anything. It should be simply the Northwest World Gateway as NW recognizes it.
It's not the city of Detroit, but Wayne County...and the county was very much involved.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3586 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4828 times:
I just remembered that several years ago i arrived in the F concourse and had to go to the end of C which seemed like the longest walk i had ever did.
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Neilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4768 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 10): Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 7):
The north terminal will be nice! Any construction photos??
I should hopefully have some nice shots later in Aug. and for the next 3 years while building. I'm know the guy who is in charge of taping and documenting the who process. He invited me out Tuesday for taking down more of the hotel, but I wasn't able to attend. Sometimes he is only given hours notice before they want him to go out and grab footage. However, I'll have more time after the summer and until it is done. I plan on grabbing some pictures and posting them.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3586 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4766 times:
cool I wish i was able to get a good view of the IND construction but it is almost impossible to get close enough to get some good videos/pictures.
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 811 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4592 times:
Hopefully the new North Terminal doesn't have that stupid, dotted tint on the windows which cuts down on sunlight/glare, etc. If you are a spotter inside the airport, you cannot get any shots at all with your camera through this stuff. I know that is minimal when thinking - but I try at all costs to route myself through anywhere other than DTW - as photography is a major part of the fun when I fly. It is especially disappointing when there are cool birds like DTW has...
...what is with DTW with the abnormally long terminal, too? 26 gates and it is not a finger - but rather one long concourse...like the new World Gateway - it sucks when you have to walk - or take that train - 600 miles...
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4583 times:
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 18): what is with DTW with the abnormally long terminal, too? 26 gates and it is not a finger - but rather one long concourse
Why would you want "fingers"? All they do is block traffic. I think the linear design for the North Terminal works fine for the type of traffic expected there. Secondly, the North Terminal is for O & D traffic, so you really won't be going from one end to the other.
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 18): like the new World Gateway - it sucks when you have to walk - or take that train - 600 miles...
I can't believe you can find this as a fault? What else would you do for a Hub?
No matter what you say, the Worldgateway is a lot better then going from the "g" concourse to C26...that was a hike!
BritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4535 times:
Long overdue, I remember flying in and out of the Smith Terminal 2-3 times a month when my ex lived there, and it was a nightmare, really was ageing quite badly! New models look really good!
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 811 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4414 times:
Dtwclipper - I'll be cursing during my stop tomorrow connecting from MIA to MSP in DTW...but at least I have two and half hours and I can stop off for Chili's...it is a nice airport, but I guess I am more of a fan of ATL's design...
Dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1048 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4355 times:
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 18): ...what is with DTW with the abnormally long terminal, too? 26 gates and it is not a finger - but rather one long concourse...like the new World Gateway - it sucks when you have to walk - or take that train - 600 miles...
Last time I looked, ATL has all linear terminals and a train to get you between them. Don't quite understand your logic. If you don't like the 600 mile train at DTW, try using the 600 mile moving walkway
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (6 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3991 times:
Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 1): One thing I found very interesting in the article was the new terminal hasn't been named after anyone yet. What's wrong with calling it simply North Terminal? Why name it after some obscure politician/personality/sports figure most people couldn't care less about?
As long as they don't call it the Coleman Young Terminal, then again they just named DET (Detroit City Airport) the Coleman Young Airport. I really don't know what other politicians they could name the north terminal after - Ficano I don't think is that involved and Engler was opposed to airport expansion in the 1990s.
Maybe they could name it after a Detroit Celeb -
Gordie Howe would be the best in my opinion, or maybe Steve Yzerman
Quoting TWFirst (Reply 6): It would be cool if they could extend the tram from McNamera, out the north end of the terminal, and over to the new terminal.
A little hard to do with an active Runway 9L/27R between the terminals plus taxiways, unless they built a tunnel underneath the runway, but the costs would outwiegh the benefits-
A. not much travel between the two terminals - not often do you have someone arriving on AA or UA, then transfering over to a NW flight.
B. Sufficient ground transportation ie terminal to terminal shuttles - I used to work at DTW and I had to travel from the Smith to the Mac a lot. I used to wait a good 15 minutes for a shuttle and hardly anyone would transfer from the Smith to the Mac. I would be riding on empty buses 80% of the time and if there was anyone else on board, more than likely they were another DTW employee.
Cgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1077 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (6 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3961 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 13): I'm sure McNamara will name it after himself again, even though he didn't do **** on the World Gateway, of which NW pretty much did everything on their own, I really don't think it was right of the City of Detroit to name NW's terminal after McNamara, when they didnt do anything. It should be simply the Northwest World Gateway as NW recognizes it.
Who was this McNamara guy anyway???
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 23): A. not much travel between the two terminals - not often do you have someone arriving on AA or UA, then transfering over to a NW flight.
B. Sufficient ground transportation ie terminal to terminal shuttles - I used to work at DTW and I had to travel from the Smith to the Mac a lot. I used to wait a good 15 minutes for a shuttle and hardly anyone would transfer from the Smith to the Mac. I would be riding on empty buses 80% of the time and if there was anyone else on board, more than likely they were another DTW employee.
This is fine as long as the seperation between NW/Skyteam and the rest remains the way its supposed to be planned. Just as long as NW or another Skyteam member doesn't suddenly decide to operate some flights out of the North Terminal.
Also don't forget about us a.netters who like to wonder around airports......no need to over excert one's self now is there...
[Edited 2006-05-26 18:16:32]
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25 Mexicana757: The North Terminal will look very nice once its done. Good to see DTW improve their facilities. I just hope they don't have those dots on the windows
26 Dtwclipper: EDWARD H. MCNAMARA | 1926-2006: McNamara mastered political hardball Former Wayne Co. exec is felled by heart failure Edward H. McNamara died as he g
27 JetBlueAtJFK: I can't wait until it opens, the Smith terminal is very bad and I hate flying out of it a lot. It will be a big improvemnt. But my question is there a
28 Iowaman: Any chance WN will pick up another gate or start a couple new flights?
29 PSU.DTW.SCE: Yes, there are some gates that will be common use. This the gate breakdown (tenative) at least as I recall. 26 total gates: 8 Spirit 3 United 3 AA/Eag
30 Vegasplanes: WN has only 16 departures on the ave. day from DTW, seems like they would be able to make due with 2 dedicated gates and occasional use of a common u
31 Dtw9: Frontier has 3 flights a day from Metro,flights 623,627,629
32 Burnsie28: From what I understand it was NW who paid for the terminal up front, paid for the design of the terminal and choose what all the terminal would have.
33 NASCARAirforce: Not sure if your gate allocations are totally right PSU, although I have some older info and stuff might have changed from a year ago when I did a re
34 PSU.DTW.SCE: Yeah, a lot of gate allocations for the smaller carriers may have changed. I didn't realize Frontier was up to 3 flights a day now. Anyways, gate spac
35 DTWAGENT: I can see more construction as they add more gates on. This will be fine for right now. But, Spirit and Airtran could and should expand big time in DT
36 Chris133: From the pics it reminds me a lot of the new WN terminal at BWI.
37 Hjulicher: Remember that the terminal will be able to add up to 5 gates once the other remaining buildings are demonilished. I think the airport has an agreement
38 DTW757: Looks Beautiful! I can't wait until the _______ (put a politician name here) terminal opens. People can say what they want about the city of Detroit,
39 DTW757: More information on this. Looks like Lufthansa, British, and Royal Jordanian will move from McNamara to the new north terminal. http://www.metroairpor
40 NASCARAirforce: BA, LH and RJ moving to the North Terminal has been known for at least a year. The whole area where the Smith currently is located is likely to be use
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I wish i was able to get a good view of the IND construction but it is almost impossible to get close enough to get some good videos/pictures.
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