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Flight Paths Over The North Pole  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 32035 times:

As posted in another thread about SQ 20, i was wondering about the flight path followed by airlines flying to and from asia.

If i am not mistaken in a flight report on this site, someone took a screen shot of the flight map while aboard SQ flying to SIN from EWR. Did that cross india? I mean does it go all over the pole and directly over india then turn towards the east and then straight to SIN? Or does it fly directly over Russia and the other countries into SIN?

And i would also like to know the routing of TG, if i am not mistaken it also has a flight which goes over the pole.

Does anyone have more screen shots of the inflight entertainment screens showing the flight path?

thanks
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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 32006 times:

The CPH-SEA flight I recently took came pretty close.
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User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 31999 times:

I know the only routes that use Polar tracks are generally from the U.S. Midwest (ORD, CVG, IND, etc.) to Beijing. Everything else slides off to either side of the pole. EWR to India would probably pass over Norway and down over Russia and the "Stans".

I know the UAL ORD-HKG route frequently use the Polar tracks. It's not something anyone likes to do--especially in a two-engine aircraft. You do not want to lose an engine and have to divert into Siberia.TC



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4079 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 31905 times:

AAs ORD to India flight goes right over the pole and crosses the Himalayas so it is quite a spectacular flight over the north. In 2004 a UA 772ER flying the HKG-SFO flight had to set down in Yellowknife, NWT Canada (YZF) after blowing an engine in flight. Because of the cold war there are numerous airfields in Siberia that an a/c could set down in in the event of an emergency.


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User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 31813 times:

You would see these flight plans to Asia a lot more during the winter when the winds are stiff.

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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 31478 times:

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
The CPH-SEA flight I recently took came pretty close.

I wouldn't call 1,000 s/m 'pretty close'. That track over the middle of Greenland is at least that far from the Pole.


User currently offlineThepilot730 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 31363 times:

CO's flight from EWR-PEK flies over the North Pole. The return PEK-EWR flies east over Alaska and then through Canada.

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6839 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 31311 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 3):
AAs ORD to India flight goes right over the pole

http://www.flightaware.com seems to show (the last couple days anyway) AA's flight plan reaching a maximum of 60 degrees N.

Quoting Thepilot730 (Reply 6):
CO's flight from EWR-PEK flies over the North Pole.

They were flightplanned to 80N or 85N.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 31304 times:

Here is a great circle mapper from HNL to LHR, that goes close to the NP, but well above the artic circle.

HNL-LHR%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=nm&SPEED-GROUND=425&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=330" target=_blank>http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=H...GE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=330


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 31118 times:

If AI begins a India-US West Coast service with its new 777-237LR's those would go over the NP (or very very close to it) as well wouldn't they?


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User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 31003 times:

Quoting Thepilot730 (Reply 6):
CO's flight from EWR-PEK flies over the North Pole. The return PEK-EWR flies east over Alaska and then through Canada.

...and so does the UA ORD - PEK, well, almost:




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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 941 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 30976 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter):
And i would also like to know the routing of TG, if i am not mistaken it also has a flight which goes over the pole.

You're right. The New York Silk Express JFK-BKK goes over the pole. Here are two pictures from the flight I took in November. Full trip report here.

Projected route before departure
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/christao17/November%202005/DSCF4312.jpg

Screen shot as we cross onto the Asian continent
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/christao17/November%202005/DSCF4316.jpg



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7573 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 30894 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 5):
Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
The CPH-SEA flight I recently took came pretty close.

I wouldn't call 1,000 s/m 'pretty close'.

You are right. But it is much closer to the magnetic north pole that, I believe, is currently positioned north west of Baffin Island at about 83 degrees north, 115 degrees west and is moving in a north westerly direction.


User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4774 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 30894 times:
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Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 3):
AAs ORD to India flight goes right over the pole and crosses the Himalayas so it is quite a spectacular flight over the north.

I thought you can't do Etops over the Himalayas???


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3952 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 30894 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 7):
http://www.flightaware.com seems to show (the last couple days anyway) AA's flight plan reaching a maximum of 60 degrees N.

No. FAA coverage ends at 61N where it becomes Iceland's, hence why the flight path appears to come to an abrupt end.

R

[Edited 2006-05-29 17:52:39]

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