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Southwest: Lots Of Ferry Flights Today?  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4405 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6111 times:
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Noticed lots of 3xxx flight numbers in/out of LAS today. They appear to be planes flying empty.

SWA3027 LAS-IND
SWA3358 LAS-ONT
SWA3401 STL-LAS

I know there was at least one more too. Anyone know why so many ferries today?


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6065 times:
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Holiday schedule reductions?


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6034 times:

Nope these are actual scheduled flights. WN has been moving into 3000 numbers for their flights.

Looking at WN's schedule for today you will see.

STL-LAS 3401 4:55pm 6:30pm N/S 03:35

LAS-IND 3027 10:25am 5:00pm N/S 03:35

LAS-ONT 3358 4:05pm 5:00pm N/S 00:55

[Edited 2006-05-29 03:42:41]


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User currently offlineSierraAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

I've spent a lot of time with the Southwest schedule and if I've read everything correctly, the 3000s are only used for additional flights around holidays or for the day or 2 in between shedules.

This being Memorial Day weekend, there will be additional flights added. The same is also happening the weekend before July 4, either because its a holiday or because they're changing schedules that weekend.

The 3000s will only be used this weekend, look for them to be gone within the next few days until the next schedule change.

Brian


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4405 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5833 times:
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Interesting, thanks for all the replies guys.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 2):
STL-LAS 3401 4:55pm 6:30pm N/S 03:35

Now, it still only shows 2 non-stop STL-LAS flights for today like there normally is, so why is the flight number different?? The normal flight number used elsewhere??



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5569 times:

When TZ entered into their agreement with WN, TZ changed all their flight numbers, all with four numbers. This was because of their code share. What are the TZ flight numbers now? I have not flown TZ for about 18 months.

David



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3195 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 5):
What are the TZ flight numbers now? I have not flown TZ for about 18 months.

TZ flight numbers are in the 4000 series. This way the flight numbers are the same across TZ and WN. A WN flight number in the 4000 series is operated by TZ, and a TZ flight number less than 4000 is operated by WN.

Still waiting for HP and US to do the same.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5257 times:

Southwest ferry flights operate in the 5000's and 6000's.


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 4):
Now, it still only shows 2 non-stop STL-LAS flights for today like there normally is, so why is the flight number different?? The normal flight number used elsewhere??

Could it be a sunday only n/s flight?

I looked to July and saw a 3000 Flight number for STL

July 2nd (sunday only flight a one stop) 3168 9:15am 11:35am 1 04:20

Then again as the other guy said this is near July 4th....so quite possibly true.



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User currently offlineChris133 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

3000 flight numbers are also used for new or changed service between schedules.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4625 times:

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 7):
Southwest ferry flights operate in the 5000's and 6000's.

Not any more... That changed when the whole numbering scheme changed to incorporate the ATA codeshares...

Positioning ferries are now 8500-series


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 10):
Not any more... That changed when the whole numbering scheme changed to incorporate the ATA codeshares...

Positioning ferries are now 8500-series

Oh, wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the update, OPNL!



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 11):
Oh, wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the update, OPNL!

Anytime.. The other major change was that "stubs" were no longer 6000 plus the original flight number--they became sequentially-numbered in the 9000-series whenever they happened to occur.


User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Probably moving a good amount of cargo too. Just because there are no passengers on board doesn't mean they're not making money. Mail and bulk cargo still have to move regardless of what day it is.


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