Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9042 times:
What a load of rubbish!
Godfrey had a chance just like every other airline to place their orders for the 787.
Boeing is not "locking" anyone out!
What kept Godfrey from trotting up to Seattle just like every other Airline chief did?
Talk about "Blame deflection"! His board is probably wondering why they're not going to have "super-efficient" aircraft, and the only response he can come up with is that it is Boeing's fault.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9017 times:
The article seems to suggest that Boeing is the only option for them, is that true? Are they looking for non-stop service to the US? What aircraft can handle that (current aircraft)? I guess the 772ER/LR, 77W, a345/346 and 747/a380 right?
Dalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 8171 times:
Virgin Blue have the choice of interim fleet before 787/350 are available. Several airlines are in the same situation. They want to start US services in late 2007/early 2008, so the 787/350 was never going to be available in that timeline. Lots of speculation they could get some of big sister VS' 346s to start the service and convert to a new type at a later date.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5814 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 19 hours ago) and read 7914 times:
Not sure what everyone is getting excited about, the article discusses in a fairly balanced way the current supply & demand situation in the airliner business, right now on the side of the manufacturers.
I didn't read it that way, I think some journalistic license may have been applied, I believe that whilst Brett Godfrey may have said those words, I don't believe he was blaming Boeing, more likely the market forces that have filled Boeings order book.
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
HBA From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 7286 times:
Remember the Herald Sun is a daily tabloid and NOT a financial paper.
DJ has been between the proverbial rock and hard place with who was going actually going to be their major shareholder, with Patrick owning more than 50% and Toll wanting to buy Patrick
Toll and Patrick basically have a duopoly in Australia and this has affected decisions by things as diverse as DJ and Pacific National, who is Australia's biggest rail operator, which is jointly owned by Toll/Patrick
I imagine Godfrey meant by being 'locked out' was that there were no more slots and he acknoledges that slots will open up, as they do, as airlines don't take up orders/options.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3423 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 6210 times:
Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 8): Since when is Virgin Blue wanting to order 787s? Definitely news to me.
Well I think that they're actually going to be called Pacific Blue (something to do with the SQ shareholding preventing trans-pacific flights being carried out by an airline with Virgin in the name!) and it's Virgin's new trans-pacific airline project that's in the process of startup.
Jbguller From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 8 hours ago) and read 5006 times:
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 12): Pacific Blue is the trans Tasman operation, I doubt that will be the name of the Trans Pac operation
I believe, and I think I read this somewhere in a magazine or something, that Virgin Blue's Aus-US carrier will be called Pacific Blue, something to do with naming rights overseas or something...can't remember.
Malb777 From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 4860 times:
Quoting Col (Reply 1): Why not let SQ run the route
What a great idea, then we can have a real airline running in competition with QF. DJ sucks in my opinion . And befor I get flamed I have tried Virgin Blue, Atlantic & Express and as far as I am concerned they all suck
thank god i was not born a bird. this type of flying is much better
Cyclonic From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 231 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
Quoting Col (Reply 1): Why not let SQ run the route
Stick to the subject; you're just trolling.
Quoting HBA (Reply 10): I imagine Godfrey meant by being 'locked out' was that there were no more slots and he acknoledges that slots will open up, as they do, as airlines don't take up orders/options.
My thoughts exactly. With DJ being an all-Boeing airline, it sure wouldn't have been Brett's intention to slag them off in any way.
Quoting Dalecary (Reply 7): Virgin Blue have the choice of interim fleet before 787/350 are available. Several airlines are in the same situation. They want to start US services in late 2007/early 2008, so the 787/350 was never going to be available in that timeline. Lots of speculation they could get some of big sister VS' 346s to start the service and convert to a new type at a later date.
Hmm, that'd be interesting. A 346 in DJ colours would look sweet! It'd be redder than a dog's dic...Bigger than a pornstars dild... umm, yeah, you know what I mean!
Quoting Malb777 (Reply 14): What a great idea, then we can have a real airline running in competition with QF. DJ sucks in my opinion . And befor I get flamed I have tried Virgin Blue, Atlantic & Express and as far as I am concerned they all suck
Nice constructive argument you've formed there, neatly backed up by a biased opinion. Now, in the words of the Virgin Mary, come again?
I've never flown on DJ, so I have no clue what they're like.
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3455 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 1985 times:
Remember Virgin Blue kind of needs the 787 and/or A350 since they cannot launch AUS-USA flights with a 772ER or a A330 which are good interim options. They would need the 772LR or A345 and obviously those are expensive planes to buy/ lease for a short period of time. I have no doubt Boeing will come up with something for Virgin Blue by the end of June
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