ATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 21186 times:
Wow, they sure are different from the usual Airbus wingtips. I do have to say though I think that style of wingtip looks a lot better on the Boeing 737's than the Airbus A320. How much do these new wingtips effect the planes performance?
PADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 21133 times:
I thought that Airbus just began testing the winglets in spring? How comes that first deliveries alreagy got them? Are they gonna be available as a retrofit or are the changes to the wing structure too grave to refit existing A32S with them ... ?
AvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 20658 times:
I think I would have painted the winglet blue rather than left it white with the 2 thin stripes. I know, I know, everybodys a critic. It'll be a while for me I'm sure but I'm looking forward to my first wingletted A320 ride. Can the new winglets be used on everything from the 318 to the 321?
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J32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 20413 times:
JetBlue is supposedly going to have a "fly-off" of two different designs for the winglets. These are Airbus' attempt at the winglets. The other design is supposed to be a true "blended" winglet that looks alot like the ones on the 737.
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5136 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 20151 times:
Quoting AvroArrow (Reply 14): Can the new winglets be used on everything from the 318 to the 321?
Do the A318 - A321 share a common wing (in terms of dimensions not just design) if so then the winglet will physically fit.
However the main consideration is the role of the aircraft. The wingtip adds extra weight, increasing fuel burn. They only start to be cost effective on routes over a certain length, when the reductions in fuel burn start to counter the increased weight.
A318s are generally used on shorter flights, therefore they probably wont be cost effective, whereas on A320/A321s doing longer flights they are worth the investment.
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 20113 times:
Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 21): The wingtip adds extra weight, increasing fuel burn. They only start to be cost effective on routes over a certain length, when the reductions in fuel burn start to counter the increased weight.
Not disputing you here, but if that's the case, what about WN? Their 737 fleet, by and large, have the blended winglets, but yet many of the a/c fly rather short flights. I find it hard to believe, but does WN take a penalty on the short-hauls knowing they'll make it up on the long-hauls? Or is there some other explanation? Thanks for any info!
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