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Curtains Are Back On UA!  
User currently offlineUA868 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 31 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6730 times:

I was not aware that the TSA has agreed that cabin divider curtains are allowed again!!

UA is adding new curtains to all the fleet with some exceptions (TED etc..).

I think this makes such a difference for customers seated in the premium cabins.

Regards,

868

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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6703 times:

It definitely does. DL has started to do it also. I think the f/a's just need to let pax that the curtains are there for a reason!!!


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User currently offlineAerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6675 times:

why are there curtains on domestic flights anyhow? it isn't as if there's really a difference in service levels. on int'l flights i can understand this

ah, perhaps it is to keep people in the back in the dark about how truly alike the service in the "premium" and economy cabins are. or perhaps to keep those in the front from understanding how much they are being suckered


User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6675 times:

Are they mesh curtains or solid fabric?

User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6658 times:

I was on UA870 SYD-SFO on Wednesday and went downstairs to strech my legs a bit. I noticed curtains now separate the economy cabin from the business cabin and the business cabin from first class cabin. Later on a SFO-DEN segment (on a 733) there was no curtain between Y and F. I hope to see them back on all of the flights!


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User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6584 times:

Quoting Aerofan (Reply 2):
why are there curtains on domestic flights anyhow? it isn't as if there's really a difference in service levels. on int'l flights i can understand this

ah, perhaps it is to keep people in the back in the dark about how truly alike the service in the "premium" and economy cabins are. or perhaps to keep those in the front from understanding how much they are being suckered

Not at all..... I think it's a good move to have the curtains back because I'm soooooo sick and tired  mad  of people in the business/premium cabins constantly sticking their noses towards the back of the plane and making rude comments about economy passengers. They should just stay in their part of the cabin and leave the rest of us alone. razz   sarcastic 



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9652 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

Quoting Aerofan (Reply 2):
why are there curtains on domestic flights anyhow? it isn't as if there's really a difference in service levels. on int'l flights i can understand this

I think one reason is to help keep economy passengers from using the front lavatory on the narrowbodies. Some first class passengers get annoyed with people walking up and down the aisle and creating a line for the front lavatory (I have been on a flight when one lady got mad at the flight attendant for not keeping the economy passengers from using the front lav). And I know it is rude and arrogant to say that first class passengers are better because they are not, but the extra money that they pay (and yes even upgrading costs something even if it is just loyalty to an airline) earns them the right to not have to wait to use the lavatory.

There is a service difference. One section gets free food, and the other doesn't on domestic flights. It also keeps the first class cabin a little bit quieter.



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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6533 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
One section gets free food

Not necessarily... Sad

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
I think one reason is to help keep economy passengers from using the front lavatory on the narrowbodies.

Exactly! If a beverage cart or something is in the aisle blocking access to the Y lav, then I guess Y pax can only use the F lav. But if there are no obstacles in the aisle, there is no excuse not to use the lav in your given cabin.



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User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6533 times:

I was on UA847 this past Saturday IAD-LGA, and I noticed the 757 in question (N526UA) did have the mesh curtains installed, however, they were not used- I presume because the flight was so short?


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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6477 times:

Quoting CV990A (Reply 8):
I was on UA847 this past Saturday IAD-LGA, and I noticed the 757 in question (N526UA) did have the mesh curtains installed, however, they were not used- I presume because the flight was so short?

Maybe it's up to the f/a's as to whether they should be used or not...
On one flight they weren't closed until I mentioned something...she said that she still felt a little insecure with them closed...



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User currently offlineORDTerminal1 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

I was on US back in April in F, and the "curtain" was only a piece of mesh. Economy passengers could easily view the First Class Cabin and vice versa. Is UA installing solid or mesh curtains?


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9652 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6347 times:

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 10):
I was on US back in April in F, and the "curtain" was only a piece of mesh. Economy passengers could easily view the First Class Cabin and vice versa. Is UA installing solid or mesh curtains?

I believe that any curtains on US registered carriers have to be see through. This requires the mesh curtains and not the solid fabric ones. This is for security reasons. An air marshal or flight attendants needs to be able to see the flight deck door even with a curtain in place.



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User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

In the pictures released of the 787 cabin, the entry way between the business/first class cabin and the economy cabin is a light airy inviting space rather than a galley. This removes a natural divide between the two cabins.

So will they have large curtains or will airlines rather go for the conventional approach used today and continue to invite us to enter their planes by way of the kitchen door?


User currently offlineJonno From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6214 times:

why are there curtains on domestic flights anyhow? it isn't as if there's really a difference in service levels. on int'l flights i can understand this

ah, perhaps it is to keep people in the back in the dark about how truly alike the service in the "premium" and economy cabins are. or perhaps to keep those in the front from understanding how much they are being suckered

Quiet and comfort and privacy. Preventing pax from economy storming into First when they actually have to wait to use the toilets. And yes, I have seen this happen in First.


User currently offlineAerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6122 times:

OK - I do admit that when am flying business on int'l flights I get annoyed when Y pax trod to my cabin to use the loo. some carriers do make a pre flight announcement to stick to the cabins you have been assigned, but some Ys believe they are entitled to use any loo on board. i don't go use the ones in the Y cabin, don't see why they should come and use the ones in the J cabin.

User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 5):
I'm soooooo sick and tired of people in the business/premium cabins constantly sticking their noses towards the back of the plane and making rude comments about economy passengers.

im so sick of the people in the economy cabin sticking their nose in the business and first cabin.


User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5886 times:

Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 15):
im so sick of the people in the economy cabin sticking their nose in the business and first cabin.

it was meant to be a joke..............  Wink



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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

At least it's better than DL. I was on a recent flight in a DL 738 and they had a rope separating the F and Y cabins.

User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5719 times:

Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 16):
t was meant to be a joke..............

glad im not the only one then  smile 

i just can't handle it when people start complaining about how those upfront have a superiority complex.


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5719 times:

Quoting Bohica (Reply 17):
At least it's better than DL. I was on a recent flight in a DL 738 and they had a rope separating the F and Y cabins.

They did? I only thought CO did that. In any case I think a rope might be more effective in separating cabins than the thin curtain which you can see through anyway...
or better yet...why not have both? CO does!



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5694 times:
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Quoting Flypdx (Reply 3):
Are they mesh curtains or solid fabric?

DL went back to the mesh curtains on the a/c with the new interiors.



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User currently offlineBkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 4):
I was on UA870 SYD-SFO on Wednesday and went downstairs to strech my legs a bit. I noticed curtains now separate the economy cabin from the business cabin and the business cabin from first class cabin. Later on a SFO-DEN segment (on a 733) there was no curtain between Y and F.

Still, nobody in 20 replies has said whether these are "solid" curtains or "see through" curtains. Brick?


User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5479 times:

Quoting Aerofan (Reply 2):
h, perhaps it is to keep people in the back in the dark about how truly alike the service in the "premium" and economy cabins are. or perhaps to keep those in the front from understanding how much they are being suckered



Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
I think one reason is to help keep economy passengers from using the front lavatory on the narrowbodies.

AMEN!!! I'm glad more carriers are putting them back.. I hated having lines to get to the F class lav.... thats why I paid for F class, to keep it clear and have my own lav lol!

Quoting Bkkair (Reply 21):
Still, nobody in 20 replies has said whether these are "solid" curtains or "see through" curtains. Brick?

Their a Mesh curtin.. the Solid curtins are banned by the FAA.... the mesh allows the flt deck and flt attendent to see whats going on in the back so the flight is safe...



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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5452 times:

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 22):
AMEN!!! I'm glad more carriers are putting them back.. I hated having lines to get to the F class lav.... thats why I paid for F class, to keep it clear and have my own lav lol!

Paid? Right...

...meal listed, maybe...



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User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5395 times:

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 23):
Paid? Right...

...meal listed, maybe...

OK... you got me usualy yes... but I have goten stuck and paid the F class fare to get home...



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25 USAFHummer : I was on UA 244 today (6/1), DEN-ORD op by 744 N195UA, and the f/a's went to great lengths to specifically point out the lack of curtains on the a/c d
26 UA772IAD : Mesh. I flew on a 3 class 763, UA in C about a month and a half ago, and I noticed they divided the C and Y cabins, since the C lavs are at the back
27 Post contains images KLM11 : Thats great to hear! I can recall flying a EWR-SAN segment on CO where a see-through-type curtain was used to separate Economy from First Class. In or
28 BoomBoom : There was a mesh curtain on the NW 757 flight from DTW to SEA too.
29 Post contains images KLM11 : Although I agree that it is a bit rediculous that you had to hear that individually from the Purser, airlines are quite concerned with customers cros
30 Lredlefsen : Me too. Frankly, I don't fly in F for the "fabulous" food. I fly F so that I don't stand in line -- at checkin, the loo, or elsewhere. I *pay* for th
31 UA772IAD : I agree, and those QF bathrooms are amazing, and rare. UA does not have higher quality bathrooms for F Class. And While I do agree with you, keep in
32 Neednewairport : Our curtains are back on the entire fleet at US-east and US-west. They are mesh but keep the coach folks out of the first cabin![Edited 2006-06-02 09:
33 Post contains links and images Bkkair : So, is every US airline mesh or solid curtains? It sounded like UA has solid curtains from what Brick posted on his SYD-SFO flight. And for those who
34 Cainanuk : It's sooooooo good that they are finally going to meet the wishes of snobs and keep the unwashed masses back in steerage where they belong! (sarcasm o
35 Post contains images Cgnnrw : One question I have to all the Biz paxs who don't like waiting in line for the lavs due to econ paxs using them. Is there any difference waiting in li
36 Aeroplan73 : I think people tend to forget that you buy a product when you fly. Regardless of what 'class' you fly in, you want the product you paid for. I don't
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