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Virgin Nigeria Inaugural To Dubai Today  
User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Virgin Nigeria (VK) inaugurates its much anticipated flights to Dubai (UAE) later on today, with flight VK313 departing from Lagos Murtala Muhammad Int'l Airport at 22:30 landing tomorrow morning in Dubai International Airport at 09:20 (convenient for UAE spotters).

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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

Apparently, VK has signed an interline agreement with Cathay Pacific and is selling Lagos-China/Japan tickets, through Dubai of course. Can anyone confirm this? No word from Cathay yet.
In related developments Virgin Nigeria will launch flights to Libreville later this month, Abidjan in July, and Freetown/Monrovia in August. The US DoT has not passed a resolution re VK's US route application.



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User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 1):
In related developments Virgin Nigeria will launch flights to Libreville later this month, Abidjan in July, and Freetown/Monrovia in August.

Do you have a source? There's nothing posted on VK's website and nothing in Amadeus yet.


User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 1):
Virgin Nigeria will launch flights to Libreville later this month

Is the LOS-LBV traffic primarily oil business?

Also will the flights be timed to allow for convenient connections from Libreville to Abidjan, Freetown, and Monrovia via Lagos?

WorldXplorer


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting Iluv747400 (Reply 2):
Do you have a source? There's nothing posted on VK's website and nothing in Amadeus yet

Sure, this was disclosed in an interview with VK's CEO Conrad Clifford, published on BusinessDay:
http://www.businessdayonline.com/?c=55&a=6758

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 3):
Is the LOS-LBV traffic primarily oil business?

There's a substantial Nigerian community in Gabon. This, coupled with the fact that several oil multinationals in Nigeria also operate in Gabon and that some Gabon citizens connect through Lagos to Europe/Middle East, will ensure reasonable loads. VK's goal is to develop Lagos as a hub, primarily for VK-VK connection traffic. Obviously they will need to build a hub-spoke network more agressively to do this. So far the approach is slowly + steadily.

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 3):
Also will the flights be timed to allow for convenient connections from Libreville to Abidjan, Freetown, and Monrovia via Lagos?

One would hope so! I wouldn't count on it though, because Virgin Nigeria's fleet is too small at the moment to provide seamless connections. But this is Africa, and Africans are willing to wait upto 8-10 hours in an airport if offered a good fare and reliable service.



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User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 4):
One would hope so! I wouldn't count on it though, because Virgin Nigeria's fleet is too small at the moment to provide seamless connections. But this is Africa, and Africans are willing to wait upto 8-10 hours in an airport if offered a good fare and reliable service.

That is exactly my fear. With such a small fleet, timing may be horrible. It is my hope that someone can come into West Africa and provide a solid operation that could provide some sort of air transport stability in a region where airlines come and go far too quickly. ET, KQ, and SA provide reasonably good service for their areas of the continent, a similar carrier is need in the West. Perhaps the joint operation between Royal Air Maroc and the Gabonese government may even pan out. However I am always skeptical of an airlines success when a government is involved. VK may be the West Africas' best hope.

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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 5):
VK may be the West Africas' best hope.

I share your sentiment! In the West African subcontinent, only VK is positioned to exploit economies of scale, and a stable and growing Nigeria can contribute to a fast-growing VK. Remember they declared their intention to operate 40 aircraft come 2010. With this fleet magnitude we can expect smooth connections in all directions. My only concern, however, is the Nigerian airports authority lack of vision or clear plan to expand the facilities at LOS. Only 18 aviobridges and 10 remote stands are currently available to service the increasing number of airlines serving LOS. While the new domestic Terminal 1 will open soon, boosting domestic capacity, no framework for the international terminal has been laid, yet.



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User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 6):
Nigerian airports authority lack of vision or clear plan to expand the facilities at LOS

What kind of traffic does LOS handle now and what is the avg growth?



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 7):
What kind of traffic does LOS handle now and what is the avg growth?

Kind of international traffic:

1- Expat businessmen/staff in/out bound
2- Nigerians going away on holiday or business
3- Visit family+friends
4- Diplomatic + conference traffic
5- NGO traffic
6- Last and least: inbound tourists (very low but the Nig. govt. is working to attract them)

The international traffic growth is about 6-8% per annum because many factors are constantly impeding the maximum potential giving economic growth, and that's about 10-12%. The reasons are disrupted fuel supply, Rwy 18R closure last year, harmattan and other severe weather etc.

Domestic traffic in 2005 and Q1 2006 is down when compared to last year because of the recent spate of crashes which has scared pax away. With the current aviation reforms, we can expect a return to an average annual growth rate of about 8-10%.



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User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 6):
the Nigerian airports authority lack of vision or clear plan to expand the facilities at LOS. Only 18 aviobridges and 10 remote stands are currently available to service the increasing number of airlines serving LOS.

With the Nigerian government controlling 51% of VK, does that increase the likelihood of Nigerian Airports authority of getting onboard (forgive the pun) with VK and increasing the airport capacity to accommodate the anticipated 40 aircraft by 2010? From an outsiders perspective, the reputation for corruption that Nigeria has leaves me skeptical that VK and the airport authority have much chance of working together to achieve the VK capacity goals. Or perhaps I should see it the other way? Does that in turn mean than if VK greases the right wheels that the needed terminal growth will occur? Nigeria has so much potential but with so many roadblocks. For the sake of the entire region, I hope VK can pull it off.

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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1817 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Good news. Does anyone know what type of aircraft they use? An A340-300 perhaps?


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User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 9):
With the Nigerian government controlling 51% of VK, does that increase the likelihood of Nigerian Airports authority of getting onboard (forgive the pun) with VK and increasing the airport capacity to accommodate the anticipated 40 aircraft by 2010?

The government does not own VK !!! 51% of the shares are held by private sector institutional investors including banks, corporates, private equity firms and insurance companies. The largest of which are Africa Capital Alliance, Dantata Group and Standard Trust Bank. Share ownership in Virgin Nigeria will be widened as soon as appropriate to all Nigerian investors, through an initial public offering and listing to the stock market.

FAAN (Airport Authority) has been doing some things to improve the airports, but not to the pace of VK's growth. The airline is lobbying hard to get things done and I believe results will be seen in in the next year or two.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 10):
Good news. Does anyone know what type of aircraft they use? An A340-300 perhaps?

Yes the A340 is used.


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3149 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2769 times:
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By chance I saw their 340 departing from DXB today around 12pm. Next time I'll try to get a photo.

[Edited 2006-06-03 12:55:21]


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User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Quoting AsoRock (Reply 11):
The government does not own VK !!! 51% of the shares are held by private sector institutional investors including banks, corporates, private equity firms and insurance companies. The largest of which are Africa Capital Alliance, Dantata Group and Standard Trust Bank. Share ownership in Virgin Nigeria will be widened as soon as appropriate to all Nigerian investors, through an initial public offering and listing to the stock market.

Thanks for clarifying that AsoRock. That was my misunderstanding.

WorldXplorer


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