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User currently offlineASLCSA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 10 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5174 times:

I thought a thread had been started about the rumor mill with new destinations. But can't seem to find one, must be another website.

Anyway besides the obvious current rumor...AS to Hawaii.

I heard a new one today. Mexico City to Belize?

Think it will happen? Can it happen? Anybody else heard this one?

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User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

Quoting ASLCSA (Thread starter):
Mexico City to Belize?

That's a hell of a rumor. LAX-Belize would be far more likely if they ever decide to touch down there.

I've heard that SJO is on their radar, as well as ATL and possibly IAH.

However, I suspect they will be more focused on connecting the dots of their current route map than opening up new cities for the next year or so. Prime example are the recently announced PDX-SJD, PDX-PVR, and SEA-CUN routes.



GO ROCKETS
User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

Quoting ASLCSA (Thread starter):
I heard a new one today. Mexico City to Belize?

LAX-Belize has been out there as a rumor for a few years.
I think that would be more likely than service from MEX.
The other rumor that comes around is service to SJO.



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User currently offlineSocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

I heard a rumor that Alaska was looking at wireless internet/high speed internet for their aircraft. Is there any truth to this? I think this would be a great idea, especially since they carry large amounts of business travelers.

User currently offlineRydawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4911 times:

Quoting Socalatc (Reply 3):
I heard a rumor that Alaska was looking at wireless internet/high speed internet for their aircraft. Is there any truth to this? I think this would be a great idea, especially since they carry large amounts of business travelers.

Hopefully that comes with in-seat powerports...Although the powerports would be a nice upgrade regardless of Wireless Internet....
-R



You can take the pup out of Alaska, but you can't take the Alaska out of the pup.
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6088 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

SoCal: That is correct. Alaska has been working on this for a little time now. But Rydawg, I do not know if this will come with the seat powerports. Very little has been released on what has been looked into at this time. Let you know if anything is heard.

With regards to new routes, all of the above are rumored and AS is looking into more city's on a year round basis. Not just the seasonal stuff just announced. More CUN, SJO, BZE,ATL, IAH...all being rumored though.

ASLAX



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4790 times:
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Quoting Socalatc (Reply 3):
I heard a rumor that Alaska was looking at wireless internet/high speed internet for their aircraft. Is there any truth to this? I think this would be a great idea, especially since they carry large amounts of business travelers.

I wouldn't be surprised, considering that two of their key cities (Seattle and Portland) are significant high-tech centers and have strong internet usage. If AS offered this, I'd certainly fly them...


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 1):
I've heard that SJO is on their radar, as well as ATL and possibly IAH.

The possiblity of an AS SEA-ATL flight may have been sideswiped by FL's entry on the route even though it is seasonal (I think it may have been a pre-emptive strike by FL.). Could a PDX-ATL and possibly a seasonal ANC-ATL flight (although that's a bit of a stretch for a 737) be out of the realm of possibilty?

While on the subject of the AS rumor mill, any new merger rumors? It seems as though some folks have all but annointed AS as the next major airline to be picked up in a merger deal.


User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2354 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Quoting ASLCSA (Thread starter):

Anyway besides the obvious current rumor...AS to Hawaii.

To put this one to bed for the time being....
http://www.alaskamec.org/blogs/2006/05/news-and-other-hot-rumors.html

A quote:
"Speaking of training, many of you have already attended overwater raft training and I have been hearing positive response. I did just get word that there will be NO flying to Hawaii this year. Hopefully the ETOPS qualification can take place by year�s end and we�ll be saying Aloha!!"

-Aloha!



Aloha Airlines - The Spirit Moves Us. Gone but NEVER Forgotten. Aloha, A Hui Hou!
User currently offlineDC10Widebody From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

Not to flame anyone but why do we have to start a rumor mill? Oh by the way I heard AS is going to start daily service from SEA-MCI using 747-400's they leased from SQ, word is every hour on the hour!  bigthumbsup 


Cheers thanks a lot.
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

Quoting ASLCSA (Thread starter):
Anyway besides the obvious current rumor...AS to Hawaii.

I really cannot understand why Alaska would have any interest in entering the very competitve Mainland-Hawaii routes.....why bother? There must be more money to be made on other resort or business destinations.

I do expect that Alaska will connect some dots on its network.....nonstops from PDX and SEA to Mexican beach resorts should be a good niche market if capacity levels are kept under control. Also, its just a matter of time until Alaska works its way down Central America....adding flights to SJO, Belize, and other key destinations, either with nonstops from LAX or as tag-on services on Mexican flights.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 7):
While on the subject of the AS rumor mill, any new merger rumors? It seems as though some folks have all but annointed AS as the next major airline to be picked up in a merger deal.

Although many think that AS will merge with another carrier, I think that its more and more unlikely to happen. AS is very independent minded, they are a growing airline that has certainly outgrown the "Alaska" name (Pacific Airways would be more appropriate at this point in time), and continue to bulk up with new aircraft on order and continued expansion with Horizon. Its unlikely that any other US airline could afford to acquire AS, and its just as unlikely that AS would willingly enter into a merger with another carrier.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Quoting DC10Widebody (Reply 9):
Not to flame anyone but why do we have to start a rumor mill?

The rumor mill is a past time at every airline. Gives you something to talk about in the breakroom, on the employee bus, while sitting in the pillbox, or in the bin. Hey it beats defacing the insides of the bin......


User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
But Rydawg, I do not know if this will come with the seat powerports. Very little has been released on what has been looked into at this time. Let you know if anything is heard.

Thanks, just don't know what good Wireless Internet is on a 3-6 hour flight when the average battery would die short of that...I know several AA Executive Platinum members who are starting to prefer AS from SEA-DFW or DFW-ANC (thru SEA), but are itching for a powerport to stay productive for the listed 9 hour trek north (including ground and flight times).

-R



You can take the pup out of Alaska, but you can't take the Alaska out of the pup.
User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

Well it would make sense on the Hawaii route if they put in the wirless internet. I am sure that a lot of poeple would then chose them to travel. Expecially college age people seeing that we love to be on the internet 24-7  Wink

I also do not see AS merging with anyone at this time. They are growing rapidly, buisness is thriving, QX is doing AMAZING! Why give it all up? All the aircraft that QX is getting and the new 737's for AS, I am not thinking about a merger at all.



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User currently offlineHarrisAir From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 59 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

Quoting Socalatc (Reply 3):
I heard a rumor that Alaska was looking at wireless internet/high speed internet for their aircraft. Is there any truth to this? I think this would be a great idea, especially since they carry large amounts of business travelers.

This is a fact, not a rumor. Quoting from Alaskasworld:

Internet on board
Q. Is Alaska looking at the possibility of Internet service onboard?

A. The company is actively researching technology to deliver broadband connectivity to Alaska Airlines aircraft that would allow customers to access the Internet on their own devices across our entire network. Alaska is working to develop a system to test -- and hopefully deploy -- in 2007. (May 22, 2006)


Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10):
they are a growing airline that has certainly outgrown the "Alaska" name (Pacific Airways would be more appropriate at this point in time

Or maybe JET AMERICA !!




Harris


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10):
Alaska would have any interest in entering the very competitve Mainland-Hawaii routes

Because there boatloads of money to be made there. Even the cheapest west coast-HNL fares pull 7-8 cents a mile -- or about twice what the cheapest fares typically do.

Steve


User currently offlineASLCSA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

I agree, I don't see any mergers on the horizon in the future. Alaska Air Group as a whole is doing pretty good. The company is making money on both sides, ontime preformance is getting better, it looks like a good summer is coming our way. Hopefully it stays like this!  Smile

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4985 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
The rumor mill is a past time at every airline. Gives you something to talk about in the breakroom, on the employee bus, while sitting in the pillbox, or in the bin. Hey it beats defacing the insides of the bin......

LOL!!!! I will be nice today!



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4066 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10):
Pacific Airways would be more appropriate at this point in time

I remember reading something many years ago that Alaska was entertaining the idea of changing its name to Gold Coast Airlines. I was living in Portland at the time...so that would have been about 1978.......I think?  Yeah sure

About Portland...it is the fastest growing NON-SunBelt city in the nation.
After years of being in the slow lane, Portland is coming alive and airline service will no doubt reflect the added activity.
 up   yes 



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10):
I really cannot understand why Alaska would have any interest in entering the very competitve Mainland-Hawaii routes.....why bother?

As far as ANC to Hawaii: the only service non-stop here to HNL/OGG is either a NW753 or an HA767 . . . the HA flights are charters and are excellent but only twice a week. And the 150,000 or so Alaskans that haul ass to Hawaii several times a year, especially in the winter, would surely support the service. Aside from Mexico, Hawaii is our favorite get-outta-town spot. I have never flown to Hawaii non-stop from ANC where the load wasn't 100%. I have often tried to book the Hawaiian Vacations charter and it's sold out - months in advance.

It'd be a great market for AS . . . one I think they should have entered a long time ago.

[Edited 2006-06-03 07:50:33]

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 1):
I've heard that SJO is on their radar, as well as ATL and possibly IAH.

I've heard of the same rumour about SJO as well, but I recall in that same rumour that AS wants to get overwater equipment on their 737s before they start that route, so they can fly a more direct route to SJO. I reckon, LAX-SJO or SFO-SJO would be the likely routes if SJO was ever to become part of the AS route network. SEA-SJO is probably too long, even for their 737s.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32602 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3918 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 7):
Could a PDX-ATL and possibly a seasonal ANC-ATL flight (although that's a bit of a stretch for a 737) be out of the realm of possibilty?

Better chance of seeing ANC-Florida than you'd ever see ATL-ANC. That's a great way to fly a plane empty. None the less, the 737s can't make it from Anchorage to the East Coast, IIRC. Maybe Newark, but definitley not Georgia or Florida.



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User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3726 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10):
Although many think that AS will merge with another carrier, I think that its more and more unlikely to happen. AS is very independent minded, they are a growing airline that has certainly outgrown the "Alaska" name (Pacific Airways would be more appropriate at this point in time),

A number of years ago they looked at changing the eskimo logo to a mountain design. The instant uproar over the heritage of the eskimo stopped that in its tracks. Kind of makes a name change unlikely. BTW, there was a Pacific Airlines on the west coast long long long long ago. They flew F-27's and 727-100's, back in the day when you could fly a 727-100 from Sacramento to SFO, etc.


User currently offlineSwatpamike From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3446 times:

Hello all

Quoting ASLCSA (Thread starter):
AS Rumor Mill

Maybe they are going to outsource their Pilots and FA.

 stirthepot   duck 

Cheers

swatpamike


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3349 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 21):
None the less, the 737s can't make it from Anchorage to the East Coast, IIRC. Maybe Newark, but definitley not Georgia or Florida.

ANC-ATL 5499 KM
ANC-EWR 5423 KM
ANC-MIA 6444 KM

ATL and EWR are within the max range of the 73G.


25 COfaninBOS : Didn't AS use to serve IAH via a tag on from DFW? I could have sworn I used to see 727s from AS at IAH when I was growing up...
26 Post contains images F9Animal : I had nothing to do with this! INNOCENT!!!
27 ForeverUnited : Oh, of course. Anything to strengthen Alaska's monopolistic stranglehold on ANC while they use intra-Alaska revenue to subsidize low-fare competition
28 Dutchjet : Wow, ancient history......you are almost too young to remember the AS/AA interchange flights. AS 72S aircraft would fly what was then known as the Pi
29 Rampart : While Continental is truly continental, and American flies to the Americas, Delta is no longer confined to the Mississippi delta, Southwest and North
30 Drerx7 : I use to see the eskimo 727-200 tail at Hobby as well back in the day. Hopefully they'll start IAH/HOU-SEA service in the short term. More than likel
31 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I appreciate your sentiment regarding the stranglehold AS has on ANC - and the rest of Alaska . . . no question about that. Since you're a nOOb here
32 Post contains links HikesWithEyes : Here you go: http://row44.com/
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