Cwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2912 times:
Quoting Vasu (Reply 2): How many 757s do they have at present? Will they have enough aircraft to cover the removal of all of them?
That's what I thought! But apparently it would seem so... these plans obviously won't come totally into effect all at once, so are more likely to happen over a period of years once they get more B737s under their wings, and get the B787's delivered too!
I'm still waiting for an official confirmation from Thomsonfly before I 100% believe this, but I also have no reason to doubt my source.
Guess only time will tell...
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
This cant be true. I hope it isn't BY 752'S are good airplanes with a lot more flying hours in them. I fly them to Turin every february and the pax load is perfect. 738'S AREN'T BIG ENOUGH! Most of them are fairly new as well.
Good news about 787's though.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4106 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2735 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 1): From what I can gather, the long-term plans are
- 5 New B787's on order to operate long-haul routes from LGW, MAN, BHX, CWL, and DSF
- Scrapping all B757-200's
- B762s B763s and B737s to operate all short haul routes
So you're saying that 5 B787's are going to replace 18 B757-200's, baring in mind that the B757 is the ideal aircraft where a B767 is too big and a B737 is too small? They'd have to get about another 20 B737-300's to match capacity if 18 B752's were to get the chop and 5 B787's were brought in, and i don't think Thomsonfly have any plans of cutting down ops any time soon.
Anyhow, some of those B757's are reasonably new, with the last ones delivered in just 1999.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 3): I'm still waiting for an official confirmation from Thomsonfly before I 100% believe this, but I also have no reason to doubt my source.
Unless you tell us your source, we have every reason to doubt it.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4106 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 9): No, I'm saying that their B767 fleet are going to cover the short-haul flights, the B787's are going to cover their long-haul flights!
Regardless of what is used where, you're saying that 18 aircraft are coming out and 5 are going back in. What happens with the 767's is irrelevant (seeing as most their B767's operate only short haul anyway). Where the 5 B787's would probably cover about 8 B757's in terms of seat numbers, you'd need a further 15+ B737-300's to equal capacity, and like i said, TOM have greatly increased their capacity over the past few years, integrating the low-cost airline into the charter airline, i don't think they're going to want to scale down, and i certainly can't see them getting a further 15 B737-300s.
Rdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 900 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2494 times:
I think they may be after the cruise business in the winter, there have been some grumbles from P and O and Fred Olsen regarding the comfort and service on the charters operated by Brit(sorry )Thomsonfly. Also they have to compete with first choice that have 33"in Y and 38" in Premium with reduced seat capacity and it is proving a winner with the passengers.
CalAir From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 298 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2449 times:
I cant see TOM getting rid of the 757 anytime soon. The 757 is ideally suited to charter traffic, the very reason why BY chose it in the first place. Its as happy doing a short hop tp PMI as it is doing a trip to SFB via BGR. And the flightdeck commonality with the 757/767 means as long as they have the 767 on long/short haul routes, they are unlikely to axe the 757.
British Caledonian...we never forget, you have a choice
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4106 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2376 times:
Quoting Kazzie (Reply 15): Scrapping BY 757's? I doubt it, some of them are not that old 6 years old? some? not to sure...
The last B757's to be delivered to BY came in 1999, with the first being delivered in 1992. Compare that with Monarch, who's B757's were some of the first off the production line, and they seem to be going strong, and i believe Monarch have no intention of dumping them in the near future. It will be a good 10-15 years before TOM even consider replacing them.
HAh! That paint scheme Did look pretty cool though, The full blue one, not the Eurowhite...
Quoting BA787 (Reply 23): Fair point. Do TUI have any aircraft on order
Not TUI Direct, TUI is kind of like Star Alliance or Oneworld, but insist of branding all their airlines to TUI such as Thompsons, Hapag Lloyd (Well HapagFly) Corsair Etc, I dont know if they codeshare or not because they mostly operate Charter flights. someone shed some light on this please
And when it comes to Ordered A/C, there are some talks of Thompson and the 787... that's it
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4106 posts, RR: 12 Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
I believe Hapagfly have some B737-800's on order, if they haven't all been delivered already.
Quoting Kazzie (Reply 24): Not TUI Direct, TUI is kind of like Star Alliance or Oneworld, but insist of branding all their airlines to TUI such as Thompsons, Hapag Lloyd (Well HapagFly) Corsair Etc, I dont know if they codeshare or not because they mostly operate Charter flights. someone shed some light on this please
There is no TUI hub so there's no point codesharing among each other. All 6(?) TUI airlines are based in different countries and fly to holiday destinations, so theres no feeding into each other involved, so no need to codeshare.
Although on a different note, Hapagfly do codeshare with Air Berlin on many flights.
25 BA787: TUI is a company in Germany, the Trading name forn Pressaug. They own all of the TUI airlines and many leisure comopanies such as Thomson and Crystal
26 Clarkeg: Thomsonfly has a current fleet of 47 aircraft and there still growing.There NOT getting rid of the 757 they have just spent all that money on upgradin