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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12407 posts, RR: 37
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

... Otherwise known as Part 5. See, not only do you get a full blast of Irish aviation, you get language lessons as well!

Right, let's just start with Smokeyrosco's last post from Thread IV ...

"Okies, maybe i jumped the gun alittle.... but can you really expect EI to fly to Australia? it has to be the Jewel in any of EI's long haul plans?...

Maybe i should take more influence from your tag line.... say little but say it well."

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I can't see EI flying to Oz on its own, but it may do so as a codeshare, feeding into EK's network or indeed, whichever airline in Asia it chooses to deal with. Now that it's free from Oneworld, it can choose to deal with any airline it chooses - EK, TG, CX, MH or SQ, among others. That said, I'd still prefer CX. That's not just because it's a great airline (in a region not at all short of great airlines), but because HKG's geographical location is perfect.

That expansion is down the road a bit, however; Priority One has to be the US bilateral. This month's Irish Air Letter (a very good - and inexpensive - magazine to which to subscribe) mentions that Ireland may seek approval for an interim Irish/US deal. That's good news, up to a point. However, I had understood that if a revised deal didn't undermine the competitive position of any other country, it should be allowed to go through, so if the EU doesn't grant permission, what then? Is it legal for it to withhold permission, given that this would amount to imposing a competitive disadvantage on us, which would, in itself, be contrary to EU law. I've argued this with people, but I'm still not convinced that an EU agency is permitted to do this. Anyway, hopefully it won't come to this.

Another interesting snippet from Irish Air Letter, is that the DAA has acquired 50 acres of land near DUB, on which it intends to build an "airport city", which could include a terminal. The land is (as I understand it), between what will be the two runways and close to where the McEvaddys want to build their new terminal. Frankly, I think the third terminal should be built privately, rather than by the DAA. If the DAA wants a use for this land, it should build a cargo terminal there - that whole business needs to be rejuvenated, but I'm not sure the DAA has much in terest in cargo.

Well, lots to look forward to then. I sometimes think Dstc47's prediction in the last thread is right; by thread 999, we'll still be talking about the SNN stopover and various other issues which never seem to get resolved, but we'll see!

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User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

Should EI acquire a dozen A319LR's to maintain their shannon route network, and grow middle distance routes ex Dublin? This could free up 330's to grow longhaul ex DUB, and be a lot less capital intensive way to grow if the government doesnt get their IPO through.

A319LR routes
Daily SNN -> JFK, BOS, ORD

Daily DUB -> CAI, TLV, IAD, BWI, PHL, BDL, EWR,

Daily ORK -> JFK

The 330's could then grow to West Coast USA, CPT, DXB, etc.

With the cost of aviation fuel, It seems that ultralong haul flights are becoming more difficult to operate profitably. With EI witnessing the difficulty that BA is having making money in Australia, I don't see this happening. Japan - Europe is another depressed market at the moment. (significant Japan - US capacity has been cut this year also by NW and AA).



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3769 times:
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From RTE:

Quote:
German bound flight returns to Dublin

03 June 2006 09:13

An Aer Lingus flight has landed safely, after being forced to return to Dublin airport after experiencing technical problems.

The flight left the airport at 7am this morning bound for Frankfurt in Germany, but returned at 7.45am due to problems with its hydraulic systems.

No one was injured in the incident.

One of the runways at the airport has been closed to clean up an oil spill resulting from the incident, but no delays to other flights are expected.

Does anyone know which runway has been closed?


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12407 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3759 times:

I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine it was 10/28, so they're probably using 16/34 until that issue is sorted out. Glad it ended safely.

If the govt doesn't get the IPO through (which will largely be because the Dear Leader doesn't want to), then I think the alternative - if they want EI to grow - is to do a deal with a major M/E carrier to buy into it.

With regard to the A319s, I could certainly see some of them coming into service on s/h routes, but not the way you've described; the t/a routes ex-SNN can support a large aircraft like the 330 and I'd rather see the old 333s flying out of there, as well as DUB; the 319s (which would be standard -112 models, not -LRs) would be used to improve frequencies on less flown routes, possibily allowing some routes usually dropped for the summr to be maintained year-round; the 319 would also make it easier to add new European routes.

Apparently, one of the biggest problems at DUB now is lack of parking stands and it is a big issue, particularly with so much construction now taking place. The DAA has already conceded that the new terminal will be too small even before its built (which is not surprising, given that it was shoe-horned into a pretty small space); what they should now be doing is planning the groundwork for the new terminal, but I don't see much evidence of this - largely because the DAA might not be involved - that's going to be a political issue.

The DAA should (or alternatively, should be told to) focus on cargo and make sure that business works more effectively.


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3751 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 3):
conceded that the new terminal will be too small even before its built

I assume these are the new stands that have opened and in front of what will be Pier D. Something that's really frustrating me about this is they have not added anymore stands, they have converted maybe 5 stands to what is now considered contact stands that before where remote stands but not one stand extra has been added.



John Hancock
User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3747 times:
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I wish to see a bigger partnership with EK. However I would like to see EI flying DUB-SIN/BKK/HKG/NRT/CPT all non-stop with their own metal.

When are we likely to see the first DUB-East Asia route launch?


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3382 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

I don't think EI would be able fly to every big East Coast airport, even with A319LR's. Just BOS, JFK, PHL, and maybe IAD would be my guess. Also A319LR's are typically business class only so you are limiting these routes to high fare business paxs.

User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Bestwestern (Reply 1):
Should EI acquire a dozen A319LR's to maintain their shannon route network, and grow middle distance routes ex Dublin? This could free up 330's to grow longhaul ex DUB, and be a lot less capital intensive way to grow if the government doesnt get their IPO through.

By the time EI aquires those A319s, wouldn't they already have more A330s? I think flying A319s longhaul would end up costing more money than it is bringing in. As stated above, EI should focus on increasing frequency on their shorthaul routes and expand their longhaul routes by buying more planes. Unfortunately this all requires planes, stands, runways, political cooperation, and most importantly...money.

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

If everyone doesn't mind, I'd like to raise a question about Aer Lingus's longhaul aircraft choice.

With the A350 being redesigned to become the A370, how does this change EI's choice between the A350(A370) and the B787?

I would think that with the A370 having a wider fuselage and better fuel economics than the A350 this would make EI examine the A370 much more closely than the they ever did the A350. The A370 is no longer a warmed-over A330, but instead it is its own aircraft and more of a competitor to the B787.

Opinions???

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6320 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

I think EI will really look at the A370 (now my name just looks silly "Shamrock350")
The A370 will be very different to the current A350, it is going to be aimed at the 777-200 and 777-300 market, so is this new aircraft really what EI want?
The rumours about the A350-1000 are still around and this is supposed to involve having the A350-800/900 get a wider fuselage and the A350-1000 aimed at the 777 market. We will have to wait until the end of July to see what Airbus come up with and that' when things will get interesting. Big grin


User currently offlineFCA7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

On A different matter. It seems that Eirjet is going through a really rough time at the moment. Rumour has it that thye are on a cash only agreement with the re-fuelling companies at DUB, and that the IAA is investigating their crew hours at the moment.

Also seems that their OTP for the past two weeks hasn't been good at all!

Not looking too rosey for their future at the mo!


User currently offlinePelican22 From Ireland, joined Mar 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3641 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 8):



Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 8):
I would think that with the A370 having a wider fuselage and better fuel economics than the A350 this would make EI examine the A370 much more closely than the they ever did the A350. The A370 is no longer a warmed-over A330, but instead it is its own aircraft and more of a competitor to the B787.

At the moment the A370 is just smoke and mirrors,as regards it being a better aircraft than the 787,well,we just have to take Airbus's word for it,but the crystal ball that they use to (forecast or project future aircraft models and performances),seems to be cracked or gone opaque and the end up with a false reading


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12407 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

No one minds at all, BTriple7, it's something a lot of us interested in Irish aviation are wondering about.

Personally, I think the 787 has it in the bag. The A350/370 (here's an idea, Airbus: design the right airplane, THEN worry about the name!) still needs to be defined and given the debacle with the A350, their credibility can't be great. At the end of the day, Aer Lingus - like other airlines - have a lot riding on the choice they make and they simply can't afford an aircraft that can't do the job it wants them to do. The revised A350/370 won't be available until 2012-13, which is well down the road from when EI needs it. One of the problems for Airbus seems to be that they don't know what market their after: is it the 787 (smaller long haul widebody) or 777 (larger l/h w/b) - but that is Airbus's problem, not EI's.

EI's problem is now that the delivery schedule is slipping quite a bit and the airline needs to commit to the 787 and get some delivery schedules agreed, if possible before they sign contracts. Boeing must know their situation and that they're just waiting to be privatised, so it can't be a massive risk to them to reserve some delivery slots; after all, looking at EI's growth in Europe, their long haul growth ambitions and the potential they'll have under Open Skies, Boeing could do very well out of EI ...


User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):
The revised A350/370 won't be available until 2012-13, which is well down the road from when EI needs it.

Could Airbus possibly give EI a reduced price on some A330s to tide them over till then.

How much is Airbus willing to bend in order to keep their business? How much is Boeing willing to bend in order to get their business? I somehow have a feeling that EI will go with the manufacturer who offers the better deal. How much sooner would EI get their 787s than they would their A370s? The 787 and A370 seem fairly closely matched. Actually...can we really even tell which aircraft is better till both planes are actually built and in the air? I think EI could go either way. Maybe EI should buy some A330s and wait till both the A370 and 787 are flying before choosing.

I'm sorry if my post has more questions than answers, but I don't think we can say either one is "in the bag."

Personally, I don't care which aircraft EI chooses to buy. I'm not Dermot Mannion, and I am certainly not about to say which one I think is better for the airline because...well...I don't know.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):
here's an idea, Airbus: design the right airplane, THEN worry about the name!
...
One of the problems for Airbus seems to be that they don't know what market their after: is it the 787 (smaller long haul widebody) or 777 (larger l/h w/b) - but that is Airbus's problem, not EI's.

I agree. Airbus needs to stop mucking around and figure what they're going to do and how they're going to do it.

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Quoting FCA7E7 (Reply 10):
cash only agreement with the re-fuelling companies at DUB

This is being going around a while, I have no idea if it's true or not. There OTP was very poor during the summer last year so it's no suprise to see it's the same again this year.



John Hancock
User currently offlineIKECVN69 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

Do Aer Lingus still enforce their policy of "no Ipods or electronic equipment" use in flight. I remember about three years ago, this was the case. Not sure if it still is.

Thanx

IKECVN69


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Quoting IKECVN69 (Reply 15):
Do Aer Lingus still enforce their policy of "no Ipods or electronic equipment" use in flight. I remember about three years ago, this was the case. Not sure if it still is.

Yes they still do


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6320 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

Aer Lingus still have five aircraft on order, three A320's one of which is about to be delivered and two others for next year plus two A330s for next May. Is there any chance that EI will order some more A32X aircraft before they are privatised? I would love to see the A319 in the EI fleet and some more A321's wouldn't hurt.  Smile

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Now that it's free from Oneworld, it can choose to deal with any airline it chooses

I wish you'd stop promoting that idea.

All the oneworld airlines are welcome to codeshare with any airline they please. QF codeshare with Air France, US Airways, Alaska Airlines, El Al and Alitalia outside of oneworld.

Being in oneworld (which EI still is until next year) does not restrict EI from "dealing with any airline it chooses".

Are we clear?

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):
The revised A350/370 won't be available until 2012-13, which is well down the road from when EI needs it.

EI will probably obtain more A330s to expand until a 787 or A350/70 can be delivered, which is now looking at the 2010 to 2012 period. It will probably be later as the airline still isn't privatised and can't afford to purchase aircraft in big numbers until this is done.

They're really hamstrung at the moment.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6320 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 18):
All the oneworld airlines are welcome to codeshare with any airline they please. QF codeshare with Air France, US Airways, Alaska Airlines, El Al and Alitalia outside of oneworld.

I always felt because Aer Lingus did not put much into OW, going off and starting a small partnership with another airline always seemed wrong in the eyes of OW. Thats why I feel it's a bit strange that Aer Lingus has now left OW just as looks like it is going to start a relationship of some sort with EK. That's why I am sure EI would be code-sharing all over the place by now.


User currently offlineShamrock330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 18):
QF codeshare with Air France, US Airways, Alaska Airlines, El Al and Alitalia outside of oneworld.

Your talking about Qantas there ( one of the three major players in Oneworld) as distinct from Aer Lingus ( the smallest in the alliance).

Qantas has considerably more "punch" than EI with regard to whom it deals with. BA and AA aren't going to forbid qantas from codesharing/ dealing with carriers outside the Oneworld framework, at the risk of pissing Qantas off, possibly leading to them packing their bags and leaving.

EI means relatively little to the alliance as a whole, apart from the feeder traffic it provides to BA and even smaller feeds to AA, but it does provide something. Meanwhile Onewrold provides nothing to EI. It was never a level playing field. Anyway i'm getting off the point here.

The main players could certainly exert more influence over "small" Aer Lingus than major player qantas. I don't think its unreasonable to assume that EI have been denied the privilege of setting up links/codeshares with carriers outside Oneworld in the past.  Smile

Patrick

[Edited 2006-06-05 20:08:41]

User currently offlineHS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

Quoting IKECVN69 (Reply 15):
Do Aer Lingus still enforce their policy of "no Ipods or electronic equipment" use in flight. I remember about three years ago, this was the case. Not sure if it still is.



Quoting EI321 (Reply 16):
Yes they still do

Good for them!


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 19):
Thats why I feel it's a bit strange that Aer Lingus has now left OW just as looks like it is going to start a relationship of some sort with EK.

Aer Lingus are still in oneworld until they announce a date when all ties will end. It does look like there will be a relationship with EK, as there will be with AA. If you go on the Aer Lingus site right now, you can choose cities like San Francisco - and it's a connection with AA.

This wasn't available previously.

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 20):
Qantas has considerably more "punch" than EI with regard to whom it deals with.

Sure, QF is a much bigger airline than EI. The only comparable airline to EI in oneworld is AY. Only Finnair tends to operate to more international destinations than EI, with a fairly similarly sized international fleet (numerically speaking).

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 20):
The main players could certainly exert more influence over "small" Aer Lingus than major player qantas. I don't think its unreasonable to assume that EI have been denied the privilege of setting up links/codeshares with carriers outside Oneworld in the past.

Neither of us can prove whether you're right or I'm right, can we? We both have no information to back up our points of view and no proof until we find some. We'll agree to disagree  Smile For now...

Quite frankly, I don't believe smaller airlines (EI, AY) have much to offer other airlines by way of codeshares in any realistic terms.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently onlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 8):
I would think that with the A370 having a wider fuselage and better fuel economics than the A350 this would make EI examine the A370 much more closely than the they ever did the A350. The A370 is no longer a warmed-over A330, but instead it is its own aircraft and more of a competitor to the B787.

I know for a fact that the relatioship between EI and Airbus is currently a very good one. This of course doesn't mean EI will go for the 370 or whatever Airbus finally decide to go with, which I imagine we'll know pretty soon. Nevertheless, I do feel EI will look very closely at Airbus. And with EI's new strategies, and given their huge reent investment in Airbus, I am sure they'd prefer to remain with a single manufacturer despite what some a.netters feel about this. But time will only tell!

Quoting IKECVN69 (Reply 15):
Do Aer Lingus still enforce their policy of "no Ipods or electronic equipment" use in flight. I remember about three years ago, this was the case. Not sure if it still is.

They must only do this on long-haul, I haven't flown EI longhaul in a long time, but fly them on a monthly basis within Europe and the use of electronic equipment has always been allowed as with other airline I know, except of course during taxi, take-off and approach. Even with mobiles, on my last flight last week from DUB to TLS I heard them saying forthe first time the mobile phones must be turned off once the aircraft doors are closed, while in the past the just announced that mobiles could not be used at any stage during the flight during the announcements they make during boadring...

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 17):
I would love to see the A319 in the EI fleet and some more A321's wouldn't hurt.

I totally agree with you Shamrock350. I've been saying for a long time that they need a few 319's for their less dense routes. I often rant about TLS-DUB which apparently for the second winter in a row is been cancelled. My recent flights on EI from TLS-DUB-TLS were all about a 90% load, which yes does drop in winter. Last winter, I decided to drive down to Bordeaux to fly EI instead of taking FR from the much closer Carcassonne airport. The loads were the lower than anything I had ever seen at the same time of the year on TLD-DUB, maybe just thos eparticular two flights? WOn't start my rant again, just annoys methat they dropped TLS in favour of BOD, and have the audacity to announce BOD in winter as a ski destination, when BOD is much further away from the ski resorts in the Pyrenees/Andorra, and the bus from BOD to the ski resorts passes through Toulouse anyway!



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineEikiwi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 5):
wish to see a bigger partnership with EK. However I would like to see EI flying DUB-SIN/BKK/HKG/NRT/CPT all non-stop with their own metal.

When are we likely to see the first DUB-East Asia route launch?

Haven't heard anything on long-haul, but keep an eye on EI news for tomorrow ....

 thumbsup 


25 EI321 : Tomorrow as in Wednesday? Did anybody see the EI ad from the 80's that was played on rte lastnight? It was fantastic to see it again, really beautifu
26 Smokeyrosco : I did, it was fabulous, I miss the 747 in EI colours.
27 Eikiwi : Yep. Didn't see the ad, I think I just missed it as I was channel surfing at the time, and saw just a still of the EI747 at the end. Hopefully get to
28 Shamrock350 : I never get to see the ads in London. I am moving back to Ireland soon when I finish school so I hope to see some more of them. Why was an ad from the
29 Post contains links EI787 : The planned marquee at Dublin Airport has been delayed until the Autumn: http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0606/airport.html
30 EI321 : This tent thing is a farce. They put it up when the airport starts to quieten down. Although I dont want to blame the DAA for the delay until all deta
31 Eikiwi : Well, All I'll say is, Look for the return of an old route, and a couple of new ones. Unfortunately, I can't let anymore go!! You should know by betw
32 Smokeyrosco : They have (or at least had) already closed off this area to cars so those spaces are already lost. It was on the RTE's version of Test the nation.
33 Toulouse : Damn you Eikiwi, don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight now waiting for the news. So thr reintroduction of an old route??? And some new ones? Ah
34 Shamrock350 : Wow sounds interesting I will be in ICT lessons in the morning so I will keep my eye out for any news. Thanks!
35 Provance : wow - go EI !!! Cant wait in anticipation - bet the old route is Copenhagen Also saw that old EI advert on test the nation last night.I dont know why
36 Post contains images Shamrock350 : What are the ads like? can't be that bad can they?
37 Kaitak : Was that the Gabriel's Oboe ad? I used to love that; I always loved that piece of music and much like the William Tell overture reminds me of the Lone
38 EI321 : Hmmmm Old route CPH, HEL (old code share), NCL, Rennes in France? There were old code shares like the one to Stuttgart. There are not many more! New r
39 Provance : lets just say their not very inspiring like the "your home" adverts. Todays EI adverts just list the city and a price. Its ually on the yellow backgr
40 Provance : wow - thanks Kaitak I always wondered what that song was ?
41 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : I can see it now!!!! This is what I get in London it's only on the side of buses and in newspapers... It's not bad compared to this... At least there
42 Provance : that looks half decent compared to our tripe
43 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : I was just listening to that while looking at the old photos of Aer Lingus aircraft and I just felt a great pride in EI. Reminds me of how much I mis
44 FlyinHigh : Getting back to the Oneworld/ Codeshare topic...... I am currently an AA frequent flyer member and regularly use my miles to get free EI flights from
45 Shamrock330 : Oh, i got the impression you were from Harrow, was it, and that you had relatives in Ireland or something like that.(hence the interest in EI) Are yo
46 Post contains images Shamrock330 : Anyway, i'm banking on one of the new longhaul routes being SFO. That would be a such a help to me. Also, i'm praying that United will consider servin
47 Post contains images Shamrock350 : I moved to England when I was 9 and we go home as much as we can. I do live in Harrow and im now 16 doing my GCSE's once they are over I will go home
48 Post contains images Shamrock330 : NO!! Please don't. Well i suppose, if you looking for rock bottom fares. That documentary totally turned me off them, plus it doesn't lie well with m
49 Kaitak : One of their new l/h routes WILL be SFO - I think they've already said as much, but I wouldn't expect that to be announced tomorrow (hope I'm wrong!).
50 Shamrock330 : Perhaps Tel Aviv, i know it may seem a bit far fetched but if you consider the decent amount of people who make the journey in the spring/summer time
51 Kaitak : An A319 could definitely do TLV, but so could the current EI A320s. Mind you, the Jewish community at home isn't really large enough to justify a dire
52 Dstc47 : A direct link to TLV would be nice. I understand that the total Jewish community in Ireland is less than 1,000 persons now, so that market segment sca
53 Shamrock330 : Yes, thats true. So as the jewish pop declines, the muslim pop is growing quite substantially. Over 20,000 now. Is there any particular countries the
54 Smokeyrosco : Honestly do not get me started, RTE showed pictures of a full car park in Dublin Airport tonight on the news, they didn't show the carpark on the opp
55 Planemanofnz : You forgot about TN, GF, OZ, MU, FJ, NF, SB, SA and soon NZ! Do QF codeshare with SK or is this just in the selling of tickets, FFP e.t.c? In terms o
56 Toulouse : Just to let you know, I did manage to sleep... As Kaitak asks below: I loved that ad. I recently posted on Non-aviatio a "Tribute to my dad", the won
57 Post contains images Eikiwi : Well I'm delighted you got some rest!! I'll tell you now, coz I know you've been waiting!! DUB - NCL (daily) DUB - TRN (3x per week. Days 2,4 & 7) OR
58 Toulouse : Great to see this, and very positive for ORK. I always thought an ORK-MAD service would be a good idea. I had however been hoping/dreaming that EI ha
59 Toulouse : Flights now bookable on aerlingus.com. No cheap fares though I must say!
60 EI321 : Im dissapointed! I was expecting a few new destinations that EI have not served before.
61 Aer Lingus : at a whopping €345 return to NCL I'd rather grin and bear FR for a tenner or indeed go to DXB for pretty much the same price
62 Keego : A bit of a late reply I know but it was 10 that was closed. I was flying to London on Sat morning and saw the aircraft (A320) being towed off the run
63 Post contains images Eikiwi : Just a temporary thing fellas .... Happens when new flights are loaded sometimes. There is a fix that kicks in overnight - (tonight in this case) tha
64 Post contains images Shamrock350 : that EI will order some A319's. Then TLS might be in with a chance again. I was hoping for some long-haul routes but I knew it was too early for that
65 EI321 : I wish they still had the 735s!
66 Shamrock350 : I miss flying on them. The new A320s are alot more comfortable but one of my first slights was on an EI 737-400-500.
67 Post contains links Kaitak : Yes, the old 737s were fine aircraft, but you really do notice the quality and comfort of the A320s; even though they're in an all-Y configuration, th
68 Toulouse : Thanks Shamrock350! Regarding comments on the 737s, I agree with Kaitak, the Airbus really are much more comfortable than the old 737's from a pax pe
69 Toulouse : Just saw on rte.ie that former Aer Lingus group CEO until February 2000, Garry Cullen, is to become the new CEO at Aer Arann.
70 Planemanofnz : I am really dissapointed. I was definately expecting more than this. What about Moscow, Istanbul, Athens, Cairo, Casablanca e.t.c. Not to mention lon
71 Provance : I would say "give them time".As yet they currently do not have the aircraft for these routes I am very surprised by the NCL route. Directly in compet
72 JWMD123 : I see the prices on the EI website for NCL are now 1 Euro each way. I would say that is competing well with FR
73 Smokeyrosco : C41 - C43 and C45 are all wide body gates. Of course, with C41 if you have a widebody at it you lose gate C42... same as C43 loses C44 and C45 loses
74 Kaitak : Hi Smokeyrosco, thanks for your comments. The whole thing is indeed incredibly inept. To answer your question, first of all: yes, T3, should be privat
75 Post contains images Eikiwi : It basically comes down to the fact that there is spare down-time for an A320 between 2 European flights. You can't fit in a 3rd rotation to Europe -
76 Provance : when is the official announcement of these routes going to be. I still havent heard anything official
77 EI787 : Here you go! Press Release from Aer Lingus:
78 EI321 : So that new A320 (or at least the capacity increase that it will bring to EI) is going to be based in Cork. Good timing too with the terminal opening
79 Smokeyrosco : eeek, you mean it could be smaller? you can only fit 3 DC-10's on the C pier Not likely, Pier D will have 12 or 14 stands, and (although unconfirmed)
80 Post contains links Kaitak : Good news this morning on Open Skies. Contrary to expectations and the old joke (congress is the opposite to progress), the US Congress has decided no
81 EI787 : All World Cup Matches are to be broadcast live at Dublin Airport: A nice touch by DAA!
82 Smokeyrosco : Aye, I seen the Flat Screens they installed, nice job this may stop people drinking in the bar watching the games and not hearing when they are being
83 Kaitak : Sad news again this week for Shannon; after losing WO, they've now lost Easyjet, which (according to a thread on PPRUNE) will be dropping its Irish ro
84 EI787 : It looks that way. You cannot book a SNN-LGW flight on easyjet.com after September 30th. It's a pity. I'd love for Easyjet to expand further in Irela
85 Smokeyrosco : Me too, but FR won't let them, as much as FR has neglected Ireland up until last year anytime U2 made a move FR had to spoil it. And there is one thi
86 Post contains links EI321 : I was refering to a midfield site for the new passenger terminal, not cargo. pier d has been designed from day 1 as primarily a LCC pier. It will of
87 Smokeyrosco : Apologies, I took what you typed a different way. " target=_blank>http://www.dublinairport.com/about-u....html When planning permission was originall
88 Kaitak : I had always thought that Pier D would be a low-cost pier, but there you go. I guess if they had found a better place to shoehorn that new terminal in
89 Smokeyrosco : The more i think about it, the more i think existing A pier suits FR, at the moment it has the same amount of stands as the new D Pier is suppose to h
90 HS748 : What's happening to Pier C? I thought that was the newest one. The plans on DUB's website aren't very clear.
91 Smokeyrosco : The C Pier is the site where the DAA wants to build the proposed Terminal 2, an awful lot is still unclear about T2, I believe all they have is an id
92 Post contains links Kaitak : Michael O'Leary is interviewed in tomorrow's Sunday Business Post and has a few interesting comments to make: - He's not stepping down in 2008, but wi
93 Planemanofnz : I want them to fly to Derry! I really hope that they don't pull out of Ireland!
94 Kaitak : According to Just Planes, EI has agreed the lease of a new A320 from ILFC, for delivery to the airline next May; this is in addition to another A320,
95 Kaitak : Today's Sunday Tribune reports that Ryanair is to launch another six routes from Dublin next December. The airline is waiting for the new check in fac
96 EI321 : I think Belfast could be possible
97 HS748 : Really? Is there a market for DUB/BFS? Has this route ever been operated?
98 Kaitak : It has been operated in the past, by Jersey European and later, Aer Arann. It's never been a success. I just don't see it as being a route for FR. Sha
99 Pelican22 : Avair and Capital Airlines also operated on the route for a while.
100 EI321 : I think the problem was the fares arann were charging. Look at how the Cork-Dublin route has turned out.
101 Smokeyrosco : The feed back RE got was the train was a better option, given no security the lovely enterprise train and it's less then a 2 hour trip. Between getti
102 Post contains links EI321 : Heres a pre delivery pic of the newest EI A320, EI-DET, which will arive at the end of the month. http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=491735
103 Kaitak : Further to the information I provided above, there appears to be two more A320s due for delivery next May/June, so Aer Lingus seems to have some quite
104 Eirjet : Hi All, I have the following questions? apologies if they have being answered already - I have lost touch with news from the homeland over the last fe
105 EI321 : Its a temporary pier that is in place for the summer season only. The permanant pier D is due to be built by next summer. Its being used primarily by
106 Danny : There are pretty much no airports left in Poland (with exception of very small ones) with no Dublin service.
107 Shamrock350 : So EI have 4 A320s on order for next year(May/June) and one A320 for later this month? Still no sign of A319s but I'm sure they will get a place in t
108 Kaitak : No, sorry, it's one A320 for delivery later this month and THREE for delivery next year (presumably EI-DEU,V and W), so four in all. We may well see m
109 EI787 : Obviously, the recent shortage of fuel at DUB is not a problem anymore. In fact, they have so much, they're literally throwing it away: There were als
110 Shamrock350 : They have been pushed to the limits at EI I'm no surprised they want a rest! These new A330's couldn't come any sooner.
111 EI321 : ..........moved to version 6.0[Edited 2006-06-13 11:53:16]
112 Pelican22 : Because of the stopover rule,they had to fly DUB-SNN and v v a hell of a lot,this has led to the A330s having very high cycles
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