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CO Gives Select Pax The Jetblue Screw?  
User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11396 times:
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Is it just me or is Continental screwing its passengers from ATL, BOS, CHI, Dallas and DC by putting their flights in Terminal A just to keep Jetblue from expanding at (and other competiton out of) EWR? What about its connecting passengers on these routes? I know that these routes have a lower number of connections, however they do have connections, there are probably more connections then you think. What about all the international connections where most likely a missed connection means a day off your vacation? It doesn't need to be this way, Continental shouldn't be screwing its customers for its own gain.


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11341 times:

There are a few reasons that ATL, DFW, ORD, MDW, BOS, DCA and IAD operate from Terminal A......

1. Most of these flights are highly O&D oriented.....trust me, CO knows how many pax are connecting and how many are O&D on each flight.

2. ATL, ORD and DFW are hubs for other airlines.......its easier to transfer pax to/from other carriers should the need arrise (say UA overbooks an ORD flight, the pax can easily transfer to a CO flight).

3. CO splits operations between term A and C for one reason.....there is simply not enough room at C to accommodate CO's entire operation, it has nothing to do with JetBlue or any other carrier. BOS and DCA/IAD ops only recently moved to A......you do realize that CO continues to expand at EWR and has added many flights, primarily to international destinations.

4. I will remind you that CO operated in C long before Jetblue came to EWR (and long before Jetblue even existed).

As for connections........the very effecient AirTrain operates between the terminal and a pax can get from A to C almost as quickly as going from gate C 96 to C138.......its not an issue.

And, why the attitude?


User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 629 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11295 times:

The only thing that CO desperately needs is an airside connection between C and A. EWR security is often lengthy and intrusive. And they do have a fair amount of connecting longhaul passengers from Washington and Boston.

I certainly wouldn't want to go through Dulles security and then do Newark security an hour later. Yuck!

Of course its a problem in many airports, but it seems especially problematic for a large hub like Newark. Connection times have to be pretty long for passengers who have to wait for the train then re-clear security.

The jetBlue operation at Newark is so new and Continental has been developing its A concourse flights for some time. Furthermore, jetBlue's
Newark business is quite small and to overwhelmingly leisure markets.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11212 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Thread starter):
Is it just me or is Continental screwing its passengers from ATL, BOS, CHI, Dallas and DC by putting their flights in Terminal A just to keep Jetblue from expanding at (and other competiton out of) EWR?



Umm, CO has been in those gates far longer than the PeoplExress wanna-be B6. I'll agree with the above that these markets are pretty much O&D.



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User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11179 times:

I transfer through EWR quite a bit out of my homebase in BOS. I was worried that having to transfer terminals and go through security would be a royal pain in the backside.

So far, it's been relatively easy. Plus, as a plane fanatic, I love riding the airtrain and getting a bird's eye view of Terminal B.


User currently offlineNateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11126 times:

I nearly missed a flight because of that issue.

I was going DFW-EWR-DUB last March. Flight from DFW 2hr+ late. Security in terminal C wouldn't let me skip ahead and I ran through the terminal to make it on the flight as they were closing the door. Of course, we then waited at the gate for two hours before leaving for deicing  mad 



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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10991 times:
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Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
1. Most of these flights are highly O&D oriented.....trust me, CO knows how many pax are connecting and how many are O&D on each flight.

According to someone who flys DCA-EWR frequently
"Personally, I take the EWR/DCA/EWR flight 2-3 times a month. The afternoon departures from DCA usually have at least a dozen customers connecting onwards to various International destinations, as well as dozens more connecting domestically. Especially on Sunday afternoons, the 5pm flight is ground-stopped almost 80% of the time, and arrives more than 1 hour past the scheduled arrival time (which is already padded by 30 minutes) more than half the time. Often, that flight arrives at 8pm - not enough time to get to T-C and make any connections that leave before 9pm."

Bocastephen (from Flyer Talk)

Quoting Mats (Reply 2):
And they do have a fair amount of connecting longhaul passengers from Washington and Boston



Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
2. ATL, ORD and DFW are hubs for other airlines.......its easier to transfer pax to/from other carriers should the need arrise (say UA overbooks an ORD flight, the pax can easily transfer to a CO flight).

That is relevent how? I don't care why certain cities were picked.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
3. CO splits operations between term A and C for one reason.....there is simply not enough room at C to accommodate CO's entire operation, it has nothing to do with JetBlue or any other carrier.

It has to do with Jetblue and everybody knows it, Its been mentioned COUNTLESS times on Flyertalk. These are just the recent ones I could find

cptlflyer says "BUT, don't forget that the whole reason CO is in A at all has nothing to do with running out of gate space in C -- CO is trying to use every free gate at Newark to disallow jetBlue from expanding there. It's entirely political." (Source: Flyertalk)

Even Continentalfan agrees "I think the JBLU issue is it in a nutshell. Continental has to hold those gates. It's not a bad tactic. CO has had to contend with a number of competitors in the past"
(Source: Flyertalk)


Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
BOS and DCA/IAD ops only recently moved to A

Continental moves flights over there because of gate utilization requirements.
PS by recently you mean October "Please note that effective October 1, 2005, the Continental Airlines flights to Boston, MA (BOS) will now arrive and depart from Terminal A." (Source: Continental.com

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
As for connections........the very effecient AirTrain operates between the terminal and a pax can get from A to C almost as quickly as going from gate C 96 to C138.......its not an issue.

Since when do you have to reclear security to go from 96-138. Even in this thread someone said that

Quoting Mats (Reply 2):
EWR security is often lengthy and intrusive.

BocaStephen the guy who travels DCA-EWR 2-3 times a month says to the question of how long "I would make sure you have at least 60 minutes to make this connection for flights arriving EWR before 3pm, and at least 2.5 hours for flights scheduled to arrive EWR between 3pm and 7pm. If you are arriving EWR between 3p and 7p and your connection out of EWR is either international or the last flight of the day and you cannot risk a misconnect, I recommend at least 3 hours (right up to 4 hrs if possible)
(Source: Flyertalk)

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 3):
Umm, CO has been in those gates far longer than the PeoplExress wanna-be B6. I'll agree with the above that these markets are pretty much O&D.

Yes they were trying to keep LCCs such as B6 out



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10939 times:

Firstly, Jerseyguy, go take a tranquilizer.

Secondly, I could care less about Flyertalk.

Thirdly, if you dont like CO, thats your choice.

Lastly, CO needs the Terminal A gates for its ops, so simple is it, and its just too bad that, for some reason, this bothers you. CO has leases for the gates and made investements into Terminal A (before JetBlue came to EWR, by the way).....as I said above, CO has been in Terminal A before JetBlue even existed, so what is your problem?

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):

According to someone who flys DCA-EWR frequently
"Personally, I take the EWR/DCA/EWR flight 2-3 times a month. The afternoon departures from DCA usually have at least a dozen customers connecting onwards to various International destinations, as well as dozens more connecting domestically. Especially on Sunday afternoons, the 5pm flight is ground-stopped almost 80% of the time, and arrives more than 1 hour past the scheduled arrival time (which is already padded by 30 minutes) more than half the time. Often, that flight arrives at 8pm - not enough time to get to T-C and make any connections that leave before 9pm."

Bocastephen (from Flyer Talk)

Wow, 12 connecting customers.......so many?

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):

That is relevent how? I don't care why certain cities were picked.

And I dont care what you think.

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):

Continental moves flights over there because of gate utilization requirements.
PS by recently you mean October "Please note that effective October 1, 2005, the Continental Airlines flights to Boston, MA (BOS) will now arrive and depart from Terminal A." (Source: Continental.com

Yes, October 1 2005 is recent, less than a year.

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):

Since when do you have to reclear security to go from 96-138. Even in this thread someone said that

You dont.......so?

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):

Yes they were trying to keep LCCs such as B6 out

CO had the gates before JetBlue even thought about EWR, what is your problem.......and who cares what BocaSteven thinks (your post)......and no airline, including CO, is required to accommodate a new entrant into the market. JetBLue came to EWR, has not done as well as expected, has now cut routes and some frequency, and thats the way it is.

CO has put up a good fight at EWR.......too bad for JetBlue. End of story.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10901 times:

I didn't know that CO has split their operations at EWR so some connecting passengers have to reclear security to connect. I really can't think of any other airport hub where this is the case... its almost embarrasing for CO.

I will from now on make sure that I choose another carrier over CO if it means having to transfer terminals at EWR.



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10901 times:

Does PHL also have the issue of people missing their connecting flights between terminals with US? Also, do you still have to re-clear security when going btwn A-West-B/C, B to C and B/C-F?

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10865 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Thread starter):
Is it just me or is Continental screwing its passengers from ATL, BOS, CHI, Dallas and DC by putting their flights in Terminal A just to keep Jetblue from expanding at (and other competiton out of) EWR?

See, you ask a "question" but you have no question. It's "just you."

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 5):
I nearly missed a flight because of that issue.

You nearly missed a flight because your first flight was 2 hours late, not because of "that issue" and you still made the flight!

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):
That is relevent how? I don't care why certain cities were picked.

You don't care about the truth. You have a viewpoint not a question, obviously, and have decided that despite CO operating from A to the UA/AA/DL hubs for YEARS and B6 only started EWR service last year, CO is in A only because they are trying to keep B6 out.

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 6):
It has to do with Jetblue and everybody knows it, Its been mentioned COUNTLESS times on Flyertalk. These are just the recent ones I could find

Then those countless times it has been stated are wrong.

Everybody does not know it.

CO has a president's club there and has for quite a long time. They aren't just holding up gate space for the heck of it.

Though CO has now expanded into Europe to such a degree that this is on longer true, when they first started using A for the competitor hub cities, it was done because the likelihood of having a bunch of connecting pax for places like London, Paris, Frankfurt, etc. was low considering the number of non-stops to those major cities for ATL, DFW, ORD, IAD etc.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10865 times:

CO pax had frequently complained about the fact that they had to reclear security, so CO announced earlier in the year at their FlyerTalk 'do in IAH that they would be adding airside shuttle bus service from Terminal A to C in order to avoid the security rescreening and AirTrain shuffle that anyone making connections needed to do. I don't know if it's up and running yet, but they did say that they would have it by summertime.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10848 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
CO splits operations between term A and C for one reason.....there is simply not enough room at C to accommodate CO's entire operation

59 gates isn't enough??????  Confused



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User currently offlineAzstagecoach From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10848 times:

Someone wrote in a recent thread that CO has an airside bus shuttle now. Can anyone confirm this? Before my next flight  Smile

When you consider how expensive it is to fly out of DCA versus BWI on CO, it is really insulting to these customers to have to re-clear security, even if there is high % O&D. And the best part is, BWI doesn't have to re-clear!

Once again I am making the DCA connection this week and I just hate it. The best contrast is with transferring to terminal B at IAH: it is just as awful (B is SUCH a dump), but at least you don't have to clear security!

I don't visit flyertalk too often so I had never heard the B6 conspiracy theory before. True or not I am going to start calling my transfer "the jet blue screw" because at least someone has given a name to my pain  Smile AZStagecoach


User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10815 times:

How does CO a Newark handle pets? Ihave a pup I'll be shipping to Glasgow from Newark - pup will be arriving from Cleveland. I've always had good luck, concerned people with both CO and NWA when shipping animals within the US, Canada, Mexico, and South America --

Personally, I do not like Newark, but thought that was a viable route for the pup to Glasgow ( this is a valuable dog, insured, health checked, all that stuff)

I'd like some opinions here - my other option is NWA - DTW, AMS, Glasgow


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10815 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
59 gates isn't enough??????

Nope, its not.......remember that CO Express utilizes just about the entire C2 concourse (aside from an occassional mainline flight during peak hours).


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10780 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 15):
Nope, its not.......remember that CO Express utilizes just about the entire C2 concourse

Yep. I did notice that in April. Who uses the middle concourse in Terminal A? In the early to mid 90s, it was all USAir.



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5051 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10751 times:

*SIGH*

CO in A has nothing whatsoever to do with B6. NOTHING.

Those gates became available when Kiwi went out of business in '96. CO grabbed the gates and started operating P2P flights out there (many to destinations that were served by Kiwi). This also help alleviate congestion in Terminal C while the third concourse was built.

The setup worked for CO, and of course preventing someone else from getting those gates is an advantage as well.

CO was in A before JetBlue was a stain on Neelman's sheets.

OK?



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25086 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10730 times:
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Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 17):
CO was in A before JetBlue was a stain on Neelman's sheets.

That made me laugh out loud. It is also the truest thing I have read today.

 Smile

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5051 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10708 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 18):


That made me laugh out loud. It is also the truest thing I have read today.

Glad to be of service!



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User currently offlineNuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10691 times:

Quoting Mats (Reply 2):
The only thing that CO desperately needs is an airside connection between C and A. EWR security is often lengthy and intrusive. And they do have a fair amount of connecting longhaul passengers from Washington and Boston.


Starting on june 16 2006 contintental will have bus service at gate 20 to gate 71 so pax do not have to go outside security. If this test gets good reviews co will put alot more money into the project.


User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10626 times:

That's good to know. I have several BOS to EWR connections in the next few months so I will definitely try it out. Off to Punta Cana in early July and then Copenhagen and Madrid this fall!

User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

so, based on no response, I will not ship this pup EWR GLA

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

Surprised they didn't have a shuttle bus service long before...They could have one bus going back and forth all day for minimal cost...That's probably all they would need if each flight that arrives at Terminal A only has a dozen or so passengers connecting.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10508 times:

Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 22):
so, based on no response, I will not ship this pup EWR GLA

CO treats animals very well, but you may not be able to ship it because it could be too hot at the time you plan on doing it.

For CO's pet shipping policy, see their website!

I shipped a cat LAX-IAH and they did a good job. You bring the animal to the cargo area (not the ticketing) and they treat it like special cargo, not a piece of luggage. At IAH they have air conditioned transfers equipment and facilities, but I don't know about EWR.

Why not call them and ask?



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25 Post contains images JerseyGuy : Not just Jetblue but LCCs in general. Read the quote more carefully, it says "ATLEAST a dozen (12) for Int'l PAX, and DOZENS (ATLEAST 24) domesticall
26 Nwafflyer : Thanks Ikra -- I have shipped many dogs and cats -- on both CO and NWA, but I watch the change airports carefully. I have never had a problem with MSP
27 Floridaflyboy : Even if they are using that as a tactic, it is not that uncommon. UAL put Ted on DEN concourse A to try and curb F9's expansion. It's strategy.
28 JerseyGuy : The difference is you don't usually have to reclear security which can take ALOT of time
29 Dutchjet : Last time I was at EWR, I saw JetBlue, AirTran, USA 3000 and other aircraft from LCCs and ATA also served EWR at one time......guess CO did not do su
30 Floridaflyboy : Is there no transport between terminals at EWR?
31 Captaink : Misconx at PHL is a very common thing. I have had the problem a number of times. If you arrive from an international destination and you have clear im
32 EWRCabincrew : From our Monthly Operational Update regarding operations at Terminal A... This will help those customers going to ATL, BOS, MDW, ORD, DFW, DCA and IAD
33 DeltAirlines : As much as I love FlyerTalk (heck, today while I was at a karate testing, I had about 5 people wondering what the heck my bright neon FlyerTalk luggag
34 Chgoflyer : They must... MUST put in sometype of airside connection. I have been flying them recently and really like Co but the current transit system at EWR is
35 Post contains links Turnit56N : As for the pet question, CO does a very good job with pets. Sometimes you'll see the special Pet Vans around the airport that they use to transport th
36 Apodino : I have one problem with CO in EWR. They have so many damn flights in EWR that there is a ground delay program every day at that airport, and delays ar
37 Mush : Really...then why do you only mention Jetblue? That's funny I didn't see you mention any other LCC in any of your previous posts. Perhaps you should
38 Tpaewr : CO has also returned some int'l flt to EWR's B. This has nothing to do with the growth of the past few years and is strictly a ploy to keep the gates
39 Post contains images Ikramerica : And in IAH, all that tarmac space used between B and C to park and board the ERJs has nothing to do with growth and everything to do with preventing
40 SPAZOLAJBLULGB : Hey Western318, First of all,B6 will certainly be around longer than Peoples Express and now that "GORDON BUFFOON'' is gone CO is ripe for the picken!
41 ANNOYEDFA : Ugh I can't....... If you can't handle flying and switching terminals......don't fly at all..........
42 CO767FA : Please provide your credible source for this statement.
43 OzarkD9S : It's PIT or Pittsburgh. Pitt is Angelina Jolie's baby daddy. It was People Express or PeoplExpress. The correct usage is "flies". Do you mean US Airw
44 Planebuff : I would imagine-Continental is probably growing too much and needs more space. Also, maybe they took the Song gates, which most likely would have been
45 Dutchjet : Huh? Song was part of Delta and operated from the Delta gates at EWR and at other airports. You are a mechanic for JetBlue? I think I will fly with a
46 RJpieces : LOL!!!!
47 DeltAirlines : Uh...some of us have had to fly to one or both of these cities for various reasons...CLE was a very nice city to go to...very nice downtown area, and
48 Post contains images FlyHoss : CO was in Terminal for years and years before JetBlue existed. IIRC, some of the gates came from UA in exchange for some CO gates at LAX. Furthermore
49 A340Spotter : Apodino, While CO/BTA do have the majority of the flights at EWR, there are many more factors into why there are ground delay programs at EWR. First,
50 RJpieces : I'd say they are in the best shape out of the legacy...Who were you thinking for the second one, AA? Oh? Please explain this one to me...When B6 ente
51 A340Spotter : DCA lies pretty much directly under the main approach feed into EWR/LGA. As there's traffic going to both (CO, DL, US, etc.), ATC has to find suffici
52 RJpieces : Yes, thank you. So i take it that traffic into EWR/LGA lines up long before DC?
53 IH8B6 : No it's not, and even if it was, if CO is paying for them, they can screw B6 all they want. Best line I've read in a while, and how true. Should be t
54 Post contains images VonRichtofen : Last Tuesday I connected from an SAS flight from CPH to an AC flight to YYZ. So I had to go from terminal B to A. Even with clearing customs I could h
55 FlyHoss : I'm sincerely sorry that my attempt at humor and sarcasm wasn't successful with you.
56 STT757 : CO obtained most of those Terminal A-2 gates in 1996 from UAL in exchange for several gates CO no longer needed at LAX T-6 because of the draw down of
57 Usairways85 : Wow, this whole thing is an argument over nothing. Yes we all know CO has been in A for a while, but since when is it never about Politics. CO uses th
58 JetBlueAUS : If JetBlue was a wanna-be PeopleExpress, wouldn't they already be down the garbage shoot right now? Sure, they've stumbled but they have definitely p
59 WesternA318 : Amen to that...I'd hate to see what the Queens unemployment office will look like the day after Neeleman bails... Werent our A gates originally UA's,
60 YYZA330 : Maybe CX uses the T7 when they could use the A330 because of cargo? Doesn't the 777 have more cargo space? Just a thought. YYZA330
61 Post contains images Falcon84 : CO has been running flights out of A long before JetBlue was even born. It's simply operationally easier to run high O&D flights from there. And besi
62 Post contains links JetBlueAUS : Actually there are other Analysts that call the company 'solid.' Believe what you want to believe but read this. http://www.newyorkbusiness.com/news.
63 ExFATboy : Funny but true: JetBlue has subway ads here in New York that say "we're not an airline that has a customer service department. We're a customer servi
64 Post contains images JetBlueAUS : You're trying to become a comic? Well, it isn't working...
65 WesternA318 : How could it, if he doesnt pay $200 for EWR-FLL, someone will pay twice that, closer to departure. Aint it funny, but I swear Southwest said the same
66 Post contains links JetBlueAUS : They are restarting service from EWR-TPA on September 14th. http://www.jetblue.com/travelinfo/routemap.asp
67 ChiGB1973 : It's competition, it's not screwing customers. You can guarantee that if CO wanted something at JFK, B6 would do the same thing. M
68 Falcon84 : "But that's different! LCC's should BE allowed to do whatever they want-charge fares they can't make money on, and the Legacies shouldn't be allowed
69 WesternA318 : LOL Falcon, thats just too funny...damn blue juice freaks...
70 Post contains images EA CO AS : You don't care that your whole argument was just shot out of the sky? That tells me you don't actually have a point - you just want to whine about CO
71 Post contains images NASBWI : Whooah there big fella lol...CO is a good airline, and Bethune worked wonders to pull it out of the doldrums into which a certain someone *cough coug
72 VonRichtofen : That's so true. I love how when an LCC makes a move against a competitor (route word compete ) the kool-aid drinkers rave about what an intelligent a
73 WesternA318 : Amen to that. Anytime CO or AA make a move onto LCC turf, I start thinking about how much better the service on the route will be. Now us rich folk c
74 Post contains images NASBWI : Better for whom, exactly? The folks traveling economy? Or the select few who can afford the luxury of business class? As far as I've seen, the custom
75 Commavia : I've been flying to EWR for a long time, and virtually all of it in and out of A. I can remember CO having an operation in A going back years, it's ha
76 WesternA318 : That's all I look for. If there are no seats on CO or AA First Class, then I wont go. Call it my one bad side...religious prejudice.
77 Post contains images ExFATboy : Boy, it must be nice... But for those of us who have to fly coach...the bottom line is that network carriers offer no advantage over LCCs, except for
78 Post contains images NASBWI : Yeah? Then perhaps you should charter your own plane and relieve yourself of the stress of missing out on a potentially great trip. Better yet, while
79 WesternA318 : Oh so true. When my daughter was still alive, it helped, it wast B6 (more often on F9), but it helped. And not help out adding some padding to CO's b
80 Post contains images FCYTravis : All the E170s are in Terminal B/C now. The move was also made because those aircraft are just too big for the already-overcrowded Terminal F. When th
81 WesternA318 : amen for that.
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CO's Coach Pub In The 70's posted Thu May 12 2005 01:20:16 by ER757
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Is CO Installing Winglets On The ATA 757-300's posted Thu Jan 13 2005 05:46:42 by Rohan737