SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6419 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8349 times:
Oh boy...glad I transit via UK or Germany, and not France on AF! I love the airline, but this would drive me up a wall. Can you imagine if it were on high demand business routes, ie Paris - London, Frankfurt, Milan...all those yappy business folk (of which I am one, and I hate me! ) on their cell phones all flight long. If they are going to start this company wide, they need quiet planes, like they have quiet cars on the trains.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8305 times:
We are headed for trouble........first AF, but other carriers will follow>
I cant even imagine an airplane filled with pax, each one screaming into their cell phone discussing nonsense (and personal matters which I dont want to hear) and acting so self-important.......its gonna be awful.
Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3058 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8296 times:
Very, very bad idea. It will be very annoying listening to all the conversations throughout the entire flight. I really hope something happens and this entire idea does not go through. Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.
Okees From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8107 times:
its probably gonna be freaking expensive with a lot of roaming charges. so the chances of you finding someone babbling with her girlfriend on the cell phone for hours about who wore what is close to 0! only people who really need to contact someone will do so.. otherwise.. its too expensive!
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4296 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8061 times:
I assume there's going to be a heavy roaming premium (at least in the beginning), so there won't be a huge amt. of idle conversation.
You can use Verizon Airfone for only .69 a minute (cheaper with a plan) but most of the time they sit in disuse, and that's in AMERICA.
You can use Skype for almost free on Conexion by Boeing flights -- but half the plane doesn't turn their notebooks on and use Skype.
Unless it's absolutely no extra charge to use, which it won't be, we don't have to worry about lots of chatter -- like on the train or bus.
Pihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4884 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8046 times:
Typical A.net flame bait.
And the usual AF bashers get on board.
1/- It is just a trial on une airplanefor six months
2/- for text messages and data only
3/-the service,even during the trial period will be charged
3/-voice service is not considered -yet-
5/-the service will not be different from the "Connexion" that Boeing already offers on international flights for data, texts and internet.
6/-the title of the original article was "AIR FRANCE SAYS "oui" TO TEXT MESSAGING...but "non" to voice calls" it is here
LH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7691 times:
I did not intend to bash AF, I just thought it might be interesting if something which was denied for decades in commercial aviation is going to change.
I only stated my personal oppinion towards this and I would have written the same if this would be introduced on another airline.
BTW, I am going to fly to the USA with AF in two month and I am really looking forward to experience their service.
I also think that it is nice if you are able to write text messages (even though I will never need that service, since I write E-mails.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7622 times:
Well, as much as I dislike the idea of cell phones on aircraft, I think in time it will not be so bad. Most people have developed a sort of etiquette surrounding mobile phones that wasn't there in the beginning of the 'mobile era'. Like turning off you phone in the movie theatre for instance and keeping your voice down in public space. Sure, not everyone has developed that etiquette, but seeing as how the cost will probably be sky-high (no pun intended) and I wouldn't be surprised if pax were asked to turn off the ringtone, so I think it won't be as bad as some ppl here think it will be.
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7467 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7420 times:
Quoting Delta787 (Reply 12): I wouldnt mind people doing text messages. If Air France allowed voice calls, I would avoid them at all costs.
Actually, what is the real difference between :
"The passenger next to me is using his cell phone"
"The passenger next to me is using the in-seat airplane phone system" ?
if he is talking lound in the middle of the night in a sleeping cabin ?
In any case, this is just a trial and I hope the idea will be dropped at the end of the test.
And, by the way, this subject was already discussed few weeks ago ...
Airbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7416 times:
What is the big deal about cell phones. People claim we will hear them yapping on their phones, when it's just the same as them talking to their neighbor. It's not a big difference, and in fact, it is quieter because you can't hear the other person. R...E...L...A...X! It is not a big deal!
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10157 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7256 times:
What is the difference between a passenger using his cellphone for a shoirt while, may be two or three times on a European flight and 2 or 3 passengers enganged in a conversation, talking all the way for one or two hours?
You want the cabin crew to tell these poeple to shut up as well?
AeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7052 times:
Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 23): What a sad day it will be when cellphone are allowed on aircraft.
Well, not everyone loves to fly as much as we do So as long as they keep their phones silent and do text and data instead of voice calls (as AF is doing) they stay out of other people's hair. I don't see this as a big deal
Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
: Unless the aircraft has some kind of cell phone relay capability (like this AF 318 will have), cell phones don't work in the air. Try it sometime and
: If you have a phone that works off of satellites and not simply towers, it works.
: Generally people don't constantly yap to each other for say an hour or two continuously, whereas cell phone users can yap to one two three or four pe
: @ Csavel - I disagree - just recently I was on a flight with a very annoying and loud conversation nearby over most of the 1 1/2 hours. Happens all th
: "AMERICA"? What's your point? Do you think the rest of the industrialized world won't be tempted by 0.69 cents per minute? The US does not have the h
: Don't honestly see why so many of you are against the use of cell phones. I mean we use them every where else, so why not on a plane. I mean, it's act
: I see it the same relaxed way as Toulouse does. Since a few months, airlines like LH and BA allow the use of cellphones until the doors are closed. Wh
: Now if AF also allows smoking on board, they can safely assure themselves of all the junk and nuisance pax in the world....cell in one hand, cigarette
: What do you reckon... are the majority going to be in favour, or like most of us, dislike it?
: I can imagine rival business' listening in to each other like spies. The whole plane becomes a shared business jet.
: How about a baby that cannot stop crying for the entire flight? I'd rather have someone talking on the phone.
: my worst nightmare (see my tagline) come true. If this happens, it will prove to me beyond a doubt that humans like pain. Seriously, I picture myself
: Yet another reason why it wouldn't make the whole flying experience annoying is that the charges will surely be quite expensive so a short call or som