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Air France Says "oui" To In-flight Cell Phones Use  
User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7795 times:

Air France is going to test the use of cell phones during the flight on one of their A318´s which will fly routes within europe and to nort africa.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6487665.html

interesting, this could remove screeming kids as the most annoying factor on a flight  

[Edited 2006-06-03 21:49:30]


Carpe Diem, Seize The Day
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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7795 times:

Yuck! Not gonna fly Air France then.

Nothing would be more annoying...



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7764 times:

Oh boy...glad I transit via UK or Germany, and not France on AF! I love the airline, but this would drive me up a wall. Can you imagine if it were on high demand business routes, ie Paris - London, Frankfurt, Milan...all those yappy business folk (of which I am one, and I hate me!  Wink) on their cell phones all flight long. If they are going to start this company wide, they need quiet planes, like they have quiet cars on the trains.

User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7764 times:

Now what was that website for the mobile phone signal jammer again......  stirthepot 

With Regards,
Alex.B


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

We are headed for trouble........first AF, but other carriers will follow>

I cant even imagine an airplane filled with pax, each one screaming into their cell phone discussing nonsense (and personal matters which I dont want to hear) and acting so self-important.......its gonna be awful.


User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7711 times:

Very, very bad idea. It will be very annoying listening to all the conversations throughout the entire flight. I really hope something happens and this entire idea does not go through. Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.  Sad

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7690 times:

One more reason for me to want DL back at HAM, and one more reason to hate connecting in CDG with AF.

User currently offlineOkees From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7522 times:

its probably gonna be freaking expensive with a lot of roaming charges. so the chances of you finding someone babbling with her girlfriend on the cell phone for hours about who wore what is close to 0! only people who really need to contact someone will do so.. otherwise.. its too expensive!

just my thought..
okees



mobs jakis
User currently offlineBroocy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

No... this is the start of the end of civilisation as we know it!

I can hear the conversations now. "Hey can you photograph me on final approach? I'm on an A318, didn't get the rego, but it's the dirty one."

 duck 


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

I assume there's going to be a heavy roaming premium (at least in the beginning), so there won't be a huge amt. of idle conversation.
You can use Verizon Airfone for only .69 a minute (cheaper with a plan) but most of the time they sit in disuse, and that's in AMERICA.
You can use Skype for almost free on Conexion by Boeing flights -- but half the plane doesn't turn their notebooks on and use Skype.

Unless it's absolutely no extra charge to use, which it won't be, we don't have to worry about lots of chatter -- like on the train or bus.
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4407 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7461 times:
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Typical A.net flame bait.

And the usual AF bashers get on board.

1/- It is just a trial on une airplanefor six months
2/- for text messages and data only
3/-the service,even during the trial period will be charged
3/-voice service is not considered -yet-
5/-the service will not be different from the "Connexion" that Boeing already offers on international flights for data, texts and internet.
6/-the title of the original article was "AIR FRANCE SAYS "oui" TO TEXT MESSAGING...but "non" to voice calls"
it is here



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7373 times:

Quoting Pihero (Reply 10):
3/-voice service is not considered -yet-

The article also specifically says "voice testing will come later".


User currently offlineDelta787 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7318 times:

I wouldnt mind people doing text messages. If Air France allowed voice calls, I would avoid them at all costs.


Fly Delta!
User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7106 times:

@ Pilhero,

I did not intend to bash AF, I just thought it might be interesting if something which was denied for decades in commercial aviation is going to change.
I only stated my personal oppinion towards this and I would have written the same if this would be introduced on another airline.
BTW, I am going to fly to the USA with AF in two month and I am really looking forward to experience their service.
I also think that it is nice if you are able to write text messages (even though I will never need that service, since I write E-mails.
cheers,
Philipp

[Edited 2006-06-04 15:01:39]


Carpe Diem, Seize The Day
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7037 times:

Well, as much as I dislike the idea of cell phones on aircraft, I think in time it will not be so bad. Most people have developed a sort of etiquette surrounding mobile phones that wasn't there in the beginning of the 'mobile era'. Like turning off you phone in the movie theatre for instance and keeping your voice down in public space. Sure, not everyone has developed that etiquette, but seeing as how the cost will probably be sky-high (no pun intended) and I wouldn't be surprised if pax were asked to turn off the ringtone, so I think it won't be as bad as some ppl here think it will be.


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User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6937 times:

AF sent out a survey a couple of months ago asking what FFs thought about the idea. Of course, I responsed with an emphatic "Non!".

Let's see how this trial thing works out first.


User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6891 times:

Quoting Pihero (Reply 10):
6/-the title of the original article was "AIR FRANCE SAYS "oui" TO TEXT MESSAGING...but "non" to voice calls"

Thank GOD! I like it  Smile as long as they keep the beeping down, it's a good plan. Congrats to AF for testing it.

Aero



Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

Quoting Delta787 (Reply 12):
I wouldnt mind people doing text messages. If Air France allowed voice calls, I would avoid them at all costs.

Actually, what is the real difference between :
"The passenger next to me is using his cell phone"
and
"The passenger next to me is using the in-seat airplane phone system" ?
if he is talking lound in the middle of the night in a sleeping cabin ?

In any case, this is just a trial and I hope the idea will be dropped at the end of the test.

And, by the way, this subject was already discussed few weeks ago ...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ion/read.main/2705872/6/#ID2705872

[Edited 2006-06-04 19:37:23]

User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

What is the big deal about cell phones. People claim we will hear them yapping on their phones, when it's just the same as them talking to their neighbor. It's not a big difference, and in fact, it is quieter because you can't hear the other person. R...E...L...A...X! It is not a big deal!

User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3331 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

Well, if AF does end up introducing this on all flights, they could probably make a killing selling noise-cancelling headphones.

User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6790 times:

maby a bubble like structure ontop of the airbus models... with a portable extenable balcony with a screen door?

User currently offlineCY319 From Cyprus, joined Apr 2006, 396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6790 times:

i agree. OUI to sms but NON to calls.  Smile
AF will be the pioneer in this issue. well done!



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9330 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6671 times:

What is the difference between a passenger using his cellphone for a shoirt while, may be two or three times on a European flight and 2 or 3 passengers enganged in a conversation, talking all the way for one or two hours?

You want the cabin crew to tell these poeple to shut up as well?



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6586 times:

What a sad day it will be when cellphone are allowed on aircraft.

Then we will have finally reach the lowest depths of the flying experience.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6467 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 23):
What a sad day it will be when cellphone are allowed on aircraft.

Well, not everyone loves to fly as much as we do Big grin So as long as they keep their phones silent and do text and data instead of voice calls (as AF is doing) they stay out of other people's hair. I don't see this as a big deal

Aero



Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
25 Ftrguy : Unless the aircraft has some kind of cell phone relay capability (like this AF 318 will have), cell phones don't work in the air. Try it sometime and
26 SW733 : If you have a phone that works off of satellites and not simply towers, it works.
27 Csavel : Generally people don't constantly yap to each other for say an hour or two continuously, whereas cell phone users can yap to one two three or four pe
28 PanHAM : @ Csavel - I disagree - just recently I was on a flight with a very annoying and loud conversation nearby over most of the 1 1/2 hours. Happens all th
29 OzGlobal : "AMERICA"? What's your point? Do you think the rest of the industrialized world won't be tempted by 0.69 cents per minute? The US does not have the h
30 Toulouse : Don't honestly see why so many of you are against the use of cell phones. I mean we use them every where else, so why not on a plane. I mean, it's act
31 PanHAM : I see it the same relaxed way as Toulouse does. Since a few months, airlines like LH and BA allow the use of cellphones until the doors are closed. Wh
32 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Now if AF also allows smoking on board, they can safely assure themselves of all the junk and nuisance pax in the world....cell in one hand, cigarette
33 Vasu : What do you reckon... are the majority going to be in favour, or like most of us, dislike it?
34 Post contains images Raventom : I can imagine rival business' listening in to each other like spies. The whole plane becomes a shared business jet.
35 Lewis : How about a baby that cannot stop crying for the entire flight? I'd rather have someone talking on the phone.
36 Parabolica : my worst nightmare (see my tagline) come true. If this happens, it will prove to me beyond a doubt that humans like pain. Seriously, I picture myself
37 Lewis : Yet another reason why it wouldn't make the whole flying experience annoying is that the charges will surely be quite expensive so a short call or som
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