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Jetways For Regional Jets?  
User currently offlineTeixeim From United States of America, joined May 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Remember a few years ago when all "commuter" or "regional" flights were on turboprops? It seems that those turboprop aircraft got a bad rap for various reasons. Along came Regional Jets and so many airlines bought them and "upgraded" lots of flights to use these new "darlings". They seem to have forgotten one thing: many or all jetways don't fit these little beasts! One of the drugeries of taking a regional flight is having to walk on the airport tarmac in all sorts of weather and for possibly long distances to board the aircraft.

I've always shunned flights on regional jets for many reasons such as: no jetways; little headroom/standing room; perceived lack of baggage space for international travels; lack of carry-on luggage space and mainly because these aircraft aren't usually flown by the "mainline" carrier painted on the fuselage, but rather by a subsidiary or contracted firm.

I'm interested to hear what airports and/or airlines have made some jetway accomodations for regional jets and to hear what others think of this topic in general.

Looking forward to the discussion,
MitchellT

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User currently offlineDmt52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4827 times:
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NW has jetways for all of its regional jets at DTW.


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

Jetbridges can be modified for use with regional jets, or like AE, they can buy jetbridges specifically for RJ use. The airline would just have to spend the money to make it more convenient for the passenger.

User currently offlineDocchaos From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4788 times:


This is just a snapshot from the view of the pushback driver.
Ahead, a CRJ, to the right, a Jetway.

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User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1010 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4767 times:
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EWR is a huge base for Continental Express, and Terminal C has many jetbridges fitted for RJs. I believe IAD has similar jetbridges for CO flights.

At Halifax, where the cold weather is a factor, there are covered walkways to the tarmac that shorten exporsure on the tarmac.

In the US, I believe that it is primarily the airlines that decides whether the cost is worth the benefit.

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4742 times:

Quoting Teixeim (Thread starter):
I've always shunned flights on regional jets for many reasons such as: no jetways; little headroom/standing room; perceived lack of baggage space for international travels; lack of carry-on luggage space and mainly because these aircraft aren't usually flown by the "mainline" carrier painted on the fuselage, but rather by a subsidiary or contracted firm.

Funny, I actually would rather have "no jetways". I love flying into LGB or NAS on Jetblue and walking down steps onto the ramp. Sure beats boring jetways  

THere are plenty of airports that have gates/jetways for RJ's. They even had jetways for the turboprops.

I believe the United Express ERJ-145's at EWR use jetways (as well as the previously mentioned CO ExpressJets:


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User currently offlineTeixeim From United States of America, joined May 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4742 times:

Thanks to all who have replied!

Looking at the photo Dr. Chaos posted above, what happens with the little stairway? Is there a flap in the jetway that covers the gap left by the stairway?


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

MHT has jetways for all Continental Express flights, all US Airways Express jets (the Dashs/Saabs/Beechs to LGA are all ground-loaded), United Express flights and some Delta Connection flights (they will use a jetway if available, but in the mornings for example when there are 2 flights within 15 minutes, one flight gets the jetway and the other is ground-loaded). At GSO, Delta Connection uses jetways for CRJs (Chautauqua ERJs are ground-loaded), Northwest for their CRJs, Continentel for their ERJs and American for their ERJs. US Airways and United ground-load for their Express flights.

Jeff


User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

Quoting Teixeim (Reply 6):
Is there a flap in the jetway that covers the gap left by the stairway?

There is a little bridge that is in the jetway. It is not attached to anything but the ground crew just slides it into place when the door opens. I fly on CRJ's a lot (DEN-FAR) and I actually prefer getting on the aircraft in Denver without a jetway. Its kinda fun walking next a CRJ.


User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

The CRJs use jetways when flying for DL in ATL and DAB

-Chans


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Jetway use for CRJs/ERJs exists at lots of airports, mainly because you cannot continue to ignore such a large fleet.

FAT built their terminal expansion planning for jetway use by RJs.

Here is a shot from TRI. It does take a bridge to cover the gap over the stairs.


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User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 861 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Passengers seem to get a kick out of walking across the ramp and boarding via stairs, even in bad weather. It adds something to the trip, than sterile jetways.


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

Quoting Teixeim (Thread starter):
I'm interested to hear what airports and/or airlines have made some jetway accomodations for regional jets and to hear what others think of this topic in general.

Just off the top of my head:

Cleveland, OH - CLE - For Continental Express - All of the jetways on the D concourse (about 1/2 of the gates), as well as C1 and C2, IIRC
Detroit, MI - DTW - All C concourse gates
Pellston, MI - PLN - All gates (both of them)
Atlanta, GA - ATL - Can't tell you which gates, but I've boarded a RJ via a jetway
Newark, NJ - EWR - C-concourse
Ontario, CA - ONT - Terminal 2 (CO Express)
And I'm not positive, but I though...
Covington, KY - CVG - All gates on RJ terminal

Quoting Teixeim (Thread starter):
One of the drugeries of taking a regional flight is having to walk on the airport tarmac in all sorts of weather and for possibly long distances to board the aircraft.

I kind of prefer walking across the ramp myself... rarely happens anymore, though.



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User currently offlineTeixeim From United States of America, joined May 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4597 times:

Now that we have young kids with associated acoutrements/carry-ons, etc. - a walk across the tarmac may as well be a walk down the plank!

Now... if I were traveling alone....!  Smile


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Everyone at CRW uses jetways on their erjs and crjs. NW even uses theirs on a saab.

User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Walking across the ramp is okay unless you have to walk down the
dirty stairways in ORD and go thru the obstacle course of ground
equipment and construction barricades. I heard a speech by Mike
Boyd once that said the UAX gates in ORD are akin to the last
flights out of Saigon.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7810 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

At hub airports it really varies. Some airlines have done a pretty good job of handling the large number of RJs. CO at EWR (C-2 concourse) and US at PHL (F terminal) both come to mind, with only Terminal F at PHL being a new facility.

At IAD on the D concourse it is so so. Bascally 4-5 RJs squeeze up to a gate. You walk down the jetway then down a staircase and get pointed to whichever jet your supposed to get on. At DCA US still remote parks all the ERJ/CRJ aircraft and shuttles you to the terminal. You are still somewhat exposed, but it minimized.

Quoting Teixeim (Thread starter):
I've always shunned flights on regional jets for many reasons such as: no jetways; little headroom/standing room; perceived lack of baggage space for international travels; lack of carry-on luggage space and mainly because these aircraft aren't usually flown by the "mainline" carrier painted on the fuselage, but rather by a subsidiary or contracted firm.

I've never seen the lack of baggage space to be a problem. They can probably fit more stuff in the hold than we can imagine. And as for carry on bags, being able to gate check stuff is actually nice. Don't have the schlep my roll-aboard into the overhead or squeeze it between the seats.



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User currently offlineKaniksu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4500 times:

I love walking to the plane on the ground. My local airport has only one jetway and 9/10 I do not use it. It's fun seeing the planes up close with the noise, smells, etc... You get to see everything. Plus... sometimes the jetways are extremely long and steep and it's not fun.

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4486 times:

I've been on CO ERJs into BOS, DCA, IAD, and EWR, and we used a jetway every time. EWR actually had these neat jetways for the RJ's where you walked about halfway down and then it split into two hallways. There was a dry erase board at the split with arrows pointing to each city. I guess that they can fit two RJs in the same space as a mainline airplane, so props to them for using the space as best they can.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23299 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 12):
Covington, KY - CVG - All gates on RJ terminal

CVG has no jetways for RJs, at least not at C. EV uses A, where there are jetways (not sure if they use them)

A lot of 9E jetways are really nice, with both a lift for gate-checked luggage (it pops up into the jetway on the same cart they use to wheel it around to the bin) and an automatic ramp to the CRJ door.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

The new BFL terminal has three jetways - one for CO Express (EMB145), one for Delta Express (CRJ200), and one for USAirways/America West Express (CRJ700). I would imagine all three jetways are suitable for mainline equipment, although only Continental would consider that.

SAN's jetbridges are changeable to accomodate different equipment. I have boarded America West 757's, A320's, A319's, and CRJ's all through the same gate. Walking onto the CRJ via the "bridge" was more like walking the plank, but I liked it!!



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

We use A at CVG as well and there are no DL RJ's that get hooked up to the jetways. C concourse has no jetways whatsoever. FWA we get a jetway and in MSP every plane is connected to a jetway, even the SF3's.



Sean



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User currently offlineDocChaos From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

We use a product like this one...
http://www.adaptive-gse.com/express-mobile.html
The one in the link is a bit newer, but the same model.

DocChaos


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

I just flew in on a NWA Express carrier's CRJ-200 into Denver last week from MEM. We deplaned on an airbridge that used a small (uncovered) bridge for the gap that the a/c stairs create. Seemed shabby but it got the job done.


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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

I know the ERJ-135s that AA uses on SJC-SAN use SAN's Terminal 2 and jetways. Also, last summer, when flying QX from ONT to PDX, we boarded via a jetway...


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25 MtnWest1979 : In BOI, Gates 10 (UA),14(F9),16(NW),18(US),19(WN/UA),20(DL), and 21(UA) have all had both mainline jets as well as rjs parked there utilizing the jetw
26 TWAL1011727 : The older jetbridges have to use a metal ramp that spans the gap. The new style jetbridges we have in MLB have a moving floor cutout that goes around
27 CIDflyer : NW also uses jetbridges for all CRJ/ARJ/SF3 aircraft at MSP, and uses jet bridges for all the CRJ's at MEM also, AAEagle at ORD uses jet bridges for
28 SLUAviator : Hell yes the rampers can. In my time loading God knows how many hundreds of CRJ flights, the only flight I ever consistently had problems getting all
29 FCYTravis : Elmira/Corning Regional has a pair of RJ-specific jetways, one used by NWA Airlink/Pinnacle and the other by US Airways Express/Air Wisconsin. There a
30 HanginOut : They have jetways for RJs at YOW.
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