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SunExpress Expands Izmir  
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Interesting move by Turkish carrier SunExpress. After flying mainly charter/scheduled services from Antalya they have just recently began scheduled services from Izmir to Cologne, Hannover, Munich, Stuttgart and Zurich.

Now they have just announced new scheduled services from Izmir to Düsseldorf, Berlin-Tegel, Vienna and Basel.

The route to Basel will be served 4x weekly (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday) during the winter schedule (starting October 30). Anyone has the schedules for the other destinations?

Regards,
RJ100


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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1854 times:

I thought they were also starting STN scheduled flights, or where these cancelled?


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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1839 times:

I don't know about STN but their website should be updated as of tomorrow and flights will be available for purchase...maybe they will add STN over night!  Smile

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Izmir has been ignored by all airlines in the past years in turkey. The Antalya region is saturated with aircraft and since the roads and developments around izmir are getting better, it's more convenient to shuttle people to resorts from there....  Smile


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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Additionally, a new airline called IzAir (Izmir Airlines) are also coming to the scene to start scheduled domestic and international flights soon. They got a few 319s from Independence Air. I saw them in Ýzmir airport last week (ADB).

Izmir is the 3rd largest Turkish city though I am not sure if it can support so much sudden expansion. Fingers crossed anyway  Wink



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Why no flights from IST or Izmir to Marseille ???
MRS is France's second largest city and although not to many turkish living there,it would boost tourism and trade ties between the south of France and Turkey.
Setting up a new air-link stimulates trafic and creates more new passengers.
(see Ryanair..)
It's a pity so few turkish airlines fly to the south of France..



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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

TK already flies to ORY, NCE, LYS and Strasbourg (also to BSL and GVA and they are on the border  Smile ) So I think a 5th destination in France is quite unlikely yet. I don't think there would be enough demand for a scheduled flight to Marseille yet...


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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Some of the new flights are now bookable.

ADB-VIE 22:00-23:20
VIE-ADB 00:20-03:35

Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

ADB-BSL 16:55-19:30
BSL-ADB 20:30-00:45

Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

Cannot find DUS and TXL yet.

XQ will also continue the scheduled flights from Antalya to Basel (3x weekly) as well as the charter flights from Basel to Antalya, Dalaman and Bodrum.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3025 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 2):
I don't know about STN but their website should be updated as of tomorrow and flights will be available for purchase...maybe they will add STN over night!

Regards,
RJ100

I think Atlasjet Intl. have the schedulded STN turn-around. They also fly to MAN on schedule.
I read an interesting article about new turkish airlines like IzAir, Bestair, GoldenAir, TT Airlines and Tailwind Airways with the headline "Are these new airlines just balloon?" You can read it here but its written in Turkish.
I think XQ does a very god job with Izmir. The flights are mostly full and almost on time. Many members of my family and my circle of friends take these new oppurtunity to fly to ADB and all of them were satisfied with the service, the a/c and the puntuality. And fares around 120 EUR for a return trip talks for itself.
Do XQ have plans to expand and buy or lease new A/C ? On which routes they use their B757?

Cheers
Ori


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Hi Ori

Thanks for the info. The Turkish aviation scene is most interesting in my opinion. And it is always good for spotters too, you never know what new livery or aircraft they bring! Big grin

I heard many good things about SunExpress so far, they are a very reliable airline.

One route which is served with the 757 is AYT-BSL (I think it is twice weekly 757 and once weekly 737-800 plus various charter flights).

Would love to try them out once, they have really good fares.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlinePilotjm From Turkey, joined May 2006, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

I am very glad that I have found a topic on Ýzmir.As aydýn says Ýzmir has been ignored for years by TK on international and national routes.At the moment atlas jet is serving Ýstanbul with 10 lights a day.We are all very happy here to have this kind of competition between Onur Atlas TK and Pegasus.Most of my friends here go to the airport even without a ticket when flying to IST they are sure they will find a carrier.As for Ýz Air the planes have been sitting in ADB for almost a month now I have heard that they will fly to some European citys I think they will be like charter planes I wish them good luck but I am not really sure about the company success.

User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

I hope that the required investments will be made by TAV and other companies to make the eastern cities more aviation friendly, otherwise the big cities like izmir and istanbul will be limited....the country really needs flights from the west to the east urgenctly, it takes over 24 hours to go from west to east by bus, that's unacceptable if you ask me...


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3025 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1588 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 11):
the country really needs flights from the west to the east urgenctly, it takes over 24 hours to go from west to east by bus, that's unacceptable if you ask me...

I think with starting following west-east services out of ADB XQ once again made a "revolutunary" step in turkish aviation market:

ADB-VAN
ADB-ERZ
ADB-DIY
ADB-TZX
ADB-ASR

My hopes are that ADB expand more and more. There is potentially a high demand for point-to-point routes to the east but still not enough services by the turkish carriers. Could OGE, OHY and PGT step into the ADB market as well? Because I think that for example OGE have the perfect fleet for a market like that. With their new CRJ or their A319 they could easily serve cities like EZS, AJI, KSY, ERC, SFQ and for sure there would be a demand for these routes because people still connect via IST or ESB to reach these cities.

I hope that sometime in the future every point in Turkey is reachable from everywhere and not only from IST or ESB. Carriers should invest more into regionaljets and Turkish government should invest more into airports and their facalities.

Selamlar / Cheers
Ori


User currently offlineMbg From Turkey, joined Nov 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 4):
Izmir is the 3rd largest Turkish city though I am not sure if it can support so much sudden expansion. Fingers crossed anyway



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 8):
I think XQ does a very god job with Izmir. The flights are mostly full and almost on time. Many members of my family and my circle of friends take these new opportunity to fly to ADB and all of them were satisfied with the service

My dad takes these flights (ADB-AYT) weekly and he mentioned 50+ % loads (90-100 pax). He generally flies mid week. Yesterday we discussed whether XQ would be able to maintain this schedule with such low loads...  

mbg

[Edited 2006-06-07 21:09:42]

[Edited 2006-06-07 21:10:29]

User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
I think with starting following west-east services out of ADB XQ once again made a "revolutunary" step in turkish aviation market:

They also have a weekly BJV-AYT. Now I call that revolutionary  Smile



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 8):
I think Atlasjet Intl. have the schedulded STN turn-around. They also fly to MAN on schedule.

Twice weekly STN-IST and once weekly MAN-IST I think



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3025 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 14):
They also have a weekly BJV-AYT.

really? Thats definitly a revolution! Big grin Big grin Big grin I didn't know that...

Quoting Mbg (Reply 13):
My dad takes these flights (ADB-AYT) weekly and he mentioned 50+ % loads (90-100 pax). He generally flies mid week. Yesterday we discussed whether XQ would be able to maintain this schedule with such low loads...

I talk about the LF in intl. routes. I don't know their loads on domestic flights. sorry.

Cheers
Ori


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

They are also starting a once weekly service Geneva-Antalya in the winter season.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3025 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

XQ flies every week from FRA to IST. Is it a schedule flight as well or a charter?

Are there any other routes on scheduled base outside Turkey?

Cheers
Ori


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

Hapag Lloyd Flight will open Izmir in the winter-timetable with flights to MUC anf TXL...( they also opened Beirut,Tel Aviv,Sal-Capverdes..)


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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 946 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

I think SunExpress is trying to be strong in the market before IzAir begins flying from Izmir. Normally their hub is Antalya but after IzAir announced flights from Izmir, SunExpress entered Izmir.

There is a big challenge in the domestic market of Turkey..


User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3025 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 19):
Hapag Lloyd Flight will open Izmir in the winter-timetable with flights to MUC anf TXL...( they also opened Beirut,Tel Aviv,Sal-Capverdes..)

and don't forget IST!
other LCC's like Germanwings flies already to ADB, SAW and ESB as well as Condor flies SAW.

Cheers
Ori


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