Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4899 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6753 times:
They had Ted to DEN and United Express flights to IAD didn't they?
JasonCRH From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 251 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6682 times:
they have one gate at MDW that is shared with Frontier. There is no big bonanza...
Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2117 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6602 times:
Looks like new VP Scott Dolan's third move....6 new domestic routes for Sept plus Kuwait already done now finally killing the MDW experiment. Busy first 30 days.
Sphealey From United States of America, joined May 2005, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6527 times:
I am trying to squeeze some dim memories from my tired brain, but I seem to remember that back in the early 1980s when the original Midway Airlines and Southwest were just getting started at MDW that American and United each had one check-in counter active (out of 30 each) and listed something like 1 flight per week. Can anyone confirm this? If so, why did they maintain that one flight at at time when MDW was essentially abandoned [1]? Was there some sort of regulatory or contractual reason?
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[1] You could easily play field hockey in the old art deco terminal without hitting anyone or anything, and I would park my car where the security area of new terminal is now for 50 cents/day when they bothered to collect the fee. I never could figure out why the one newspaper/donut cart guy stayed there. Quite a change...
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3165 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6495 times:
Quoting JasonCRH (Reply 4): they have one gate at MDW that is shared with Frontier. There is no big bonanza...
Is it just me, or do I find it odd that UA subleased part of a gate from F9 at MDW given their (recently-settled) squabble over the DEN Concourse A gates?
Boeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2264 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6472 times:
I recently flew UA Express MDW-IAD just to experience the CRJ700 for the first time. Glad I tried it.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3585 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6466 times:
I don't think you will see a big deal at MDW...maybe WN will add even more flights to DEN and probably IAD when they start service there.
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4085 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6281 times:
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Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 9): maybe WN will add even more flights to DEN and probably IAD when they start service there.
Flypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6245 times:
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 7): Is it just me, or do I find it odd that UA subleased part of a gate from F9 at MDW given their (recently-settled) squabble over the DEN Concourse A gates?
I thought that in one of the other topics I had read it was a city owned gate.
Ramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1455 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6157 times:
United To Discontinue All Chicago Midway Service on
Sept. 5
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To better align service capacity with customer
demand, United will discontinue its service from
Chicago's Midway International Airport, beginning
Sept. 5.
All 37 Ramp Service and Customer Service employees
currently stationed at Midway will have the option
to apply for positions at Chicago's O'Hare
International Airport.
"To deliver the most cost-competitive service
possible, we continue to reallocate our aircraft to
markets where demand from our customers is strong,"
says Scott Dolan, senior vice president-Airport
Operations and Cargo. "While customer demand has
not been strong enough to retain our Midway service,
demand from our hub airports, where customers can
connect to hundreds of United destinations, remains
very strong."
United will continue to operate charter flights from
Midway.
All customers booked on TedSM and United Express(R)
flights through Midway after Sept. 5 will be
accommodated on O'Hare flights. They will be
contacted about the change. United will continue to
sell tickets on our Midway service through Sept. 5.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3585 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6139 times:
How many times has United started service and pulled out at MDW? I also like how the affected employees will "...have the option to apply for positions at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport..."
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6061 times:
According to the Airtran website, they are using A2, A4a, A4b, A10, and A12. Perhaps some of those gates are city gates as well, however A1 would be convienient for them if they continue to expand there. I'm sure they wouldn't mind taking care of F9's needs if necessary. Does anyone know how well Airtran is doing with their new MDW routes? DFW, EWR, BOS, and MSP are all relatively new nonstops from MDW.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4085 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5945 times:
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Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 13): All customers booked on TedSM and United Express(R)
flights through Midway after Sept. 5 will be
accommodated on O'Hare flights.
What if I don't want to fly out of ORD and want a refund??
Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 14): I also like how the affected employees will "...have the option to apply for positions at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport..."
MDW22L31C From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 197 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5824 times:
Back when Midway airlines went bankrupt UA had 727-100 flights to LAX, SFO, DEN and 737-300 Flights to MCO. the MCO Flights last 3 years.
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5763 times:
Quoting Sphealey (Reply 6): I am trying to squeeze some dim memories from my tired brain, but I seem to remember that back in the early 1980s when the original Midway Airlines and Southwest were just getting started at MDW that American and United each had one check-in counter active (out of 30 each) and listed something like 1 flight per week. Can anyone confirm this?
According to the December 15, 1979 OAG, the only service operated to/from Midway Airport was:
Midway Airlines with 5 daily DC-9-10s to Cleveland/Burke Lakefront Airport, 5 daily DC-9-10s to Detroit Metro and 4 daily DC-9-10s to Kansas City International.
Delta Airlines with 2 daily DC-9-30s to Saint Louis.
7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3585 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5763 times:
I remember flying thru MDW during 1994/1995 and seeing the many different airlines there...i.e...Midway connection, Markair, Midway #2, ValueJet, etc.
The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
Biggsfo From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2754 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5753 times:
First AA, now UA. No surprises though. With a mega-hub across town, they are better off devoting resources there IMO.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8737 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5645 times:
All I hope is that United does not pull service from the other Chicago area airport that it serves. RFD just got service to DEN a few months ago, and it is a service that the airport needs. I really do not want to see Rockford/Chicago service fail like MDW service did.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2342 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5567 times:
Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 5): Looks like new VP Scott Dolan's third move
Who is Mr. Dolan? Is he going to save UA? I like the Kuwait and MDW decisions.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21208 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5539 times:
MDW is a funny place for legacies. It seems that they can only run service there to large cities with a fair to high amount of O&D. DTW and MSP work for NW because of the O&D to those places, but MEM has been tried and has not worked. US hasn't been able to make CLT work despite TZ's apparent ability to do it and the success of FL (perhaps it's a little too early to judge that). DL has cut service severely, back to just ATL service on EV even though the shuttle 738s seemed to be a good competitive antidote to FL. The only smaller city left with legacy service is CLE, and CO is the only carrier whose MDW schedule approaches what they have at ORD.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
25 SLCUT2777: WN has made SLC work, and they are looking at adding an additional flight SLC-MDW. I think it would be best for ALL of the legacies to concede MDW as
26 Chicago757: United doesn't share a gate with F9. F9 uses gate A2 and United uses A1.
27 LGBFltTrainer: Oh, Oh...better watch out... AA & UA will probably demand that Midway be shut down & have FL/WN move to O'hare... Note: tongue is firmly planted in ch
28 Scintx: I most have had a day off but I didn't know AA dropped MDW. I use to do the DFW/MDW from 1998-2002. I liked the old Midway and really like the new on
29 Scintx: I just moved back to Dallas after being gone for over six years and just saw two of the pro and con commericals on TV for you know what. You comment
30 AirFrance: Whick airline is going to have those gates. Also why would they have O'Hare and Midway? They are not that far apart and UA has the hub at O' hare. Fin
31 Wjcandee: Believe it or not, when I was in grad school in Chicago in the early 1980s, I seem to remember United starting to make noise about the expansion at M
32 Cubsrule: I think the same could be said for CO. However, those are the only two (though some might argue that the US-Ex foray with YV CRJs was similar).
33 Jamake1: Actually, during the late 1980's United operated SFO/LAX-MDW, DEN-MDW, as well as IAD-MDW...all on 727-100/200 equipment. I think that it is a prudent
34 Type-rated: UA has a long history of being in and out of MDW. They'll be back again one day. At one time MDW was busier that it was in the 80's. In the early 70's
35 Mycrj17: Now here is something that I heard from the MDW ops, the US(HP) have put in a bid for MDW, I did not think that US would want to come back to MDW, but
36 7E72004: If NW had in fact bought the first Midway airlines, how do you think MDW would have looked today?
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