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Stansted Is Not An Airport, It's A Cowhouse  
User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9932 times:

I want just to report the horrible experince i had the last week end. I've been with my wife to London for a saturday and a sunday and we found an excellent fare with Ryanair from Trieste.

Excellent flight and perfect on time but the mess it has been once arrived at Stansted airport. If airport it can be called.

Total chaos once arrived. The passport area is simply ridicolous with just 4 desks opened for the EU citizen and dozen of flights that arrive.. so be ready to wait at least 30 min! Thanks God the United Kingdom should be in the EU..

The other great news was the transportation to London that costed twice the ticket i payed from Trieste to London.. but the great thing it was the return flight. Just pay attention at the windows of the airport from outside.. from inside you risk do not even see the sun or the sky because they have probably never been cleaned.. and it's useless to comment how dirty it's just out of the entrances.

I understand that at Stansted since there are low cost carriers they probably don't pay that much attention on passengers, but the taxes we pay aren't much different from other airports.

It's really a bad pic of London that airport. Just not to mention how rude is the people at the check in or at the security gates.

[Edited 2006-06-07 16:01:40]

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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9898 times:

I made similar experiences just recently. Immigration is the biggest mess, way not enough personnel to handle all the pax.

As for train prices, yes, it is ridiculous, but it is out of control of the airport since trains are mainly privatized in Great Britain.

I for myself always fly to Luton therefore, since it is cheaper to go into London with one of the buses.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9883 times:

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that too the next time. Once at Stansted it was enough.

Anyway the prices of the trains in England i think are not justified for the service they offer and especially the local trains that are extremelly old.


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9856 times:

Apart from the queues at passport control, and the walk to FR's pier, I think STN is a fairly pleasant airport to use.

User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9840 times:

do you like to see the windows totally dirty?

User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9823 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 1):

I for myself always fly to Luton therefore, since it is cheaper to go into London with one of the buses.

good Boy  Silly

Transport to London from LTN is great, there is a Coach ever 30 mins or so, a Direct train, and its fairly cheap....

I asked for a fair on LTN-LGW RTN... £21... Not bad for distance  Smile


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9775 times:

I quite like STN - the main terminal is quite impressive, and allows plenty of light in, as does the international pier. I'm not so keen on the domestic departures pier, which is a lot more dull and has very few facilities.


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User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9755 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 6):
plenty of light in

If they clean the windows..   

[Edited 2006-06-07 16:35:51]

User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9734 times:

Your experience reminds me of Gatwick. Flew in there on EasyJet, walked through a disgusting concourse, only to get to passport control and wait an hour. Impossible to believe I had to wait in line for an hour to answer 3 questions and get a stamp.

After that I went to the incredibly cramped and overcrowded baggage claim area, and searched all the carosels for my bag, because there wasn't any sign to tell me which one the flight had been on. Maybe my flight was posted an hour earlier, but not now. After wandering around for about 15 minutes, I found my bag sitting in the floor between two carosels . From there I walked to the packed terminal, got a ticket for the Gatwick Express, and got the hell out of there. Gatwick should be demolished, and a proper airport built in its place.



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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9726 times:

Quoting Koper (Reply 7):
If they clean the windows..

They have been OK when I've passed through, though the last time was in February!

Gatwick South terminal really is bad, though - particularly the domestic pier. Grotty and outdated!



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9712 times:

Alias1024,

How long ago was your flight into LGW...?

The whole thing's really been modernised recently, and areas like the baggage claim are totally new (and bigger!)


User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9702 times:

"Impossible to believe I had to wait in line for an hour to answer 3 questions and get a stamp."
You should see what we have to go thru on entering the USA
a 1 hour wait is not bad at all, then to be grilled and treated like a criminal by surly fat rude immigration officers, after that,coming in to the UK seem like a breeze


User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9680 times:

LGW is very very cramped- I was there last year and the luggage area was under construction and seemed very rundown. Passport control there IS a madhouse- lines were stretching up the walkways.

STN is a lovely airport but.... Koper I think you learned the rule about budget airlines to London- always check if the price of the train with the price of the airfare is cheaper than a mainline carrier into LHR. Sometimes its worth the hassles, sometimes not.



Hang on tightly, Let go lightly
User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9680 times:

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 11):
You should see what we have to go thru on entering the USA
a 1 hour wait is not bad at all, then to be grilled and treated like a criminal by surly fat rude immigration officers, after that,coming in to the UK seem like a breeze

Absolutely not. When i flew from Milan to New York 20 days i waited no longer than 15 min at immigration office.

In Stansted it has been a real shame. 30 min for all the European Union flights and at the desk they asked if i had a valid passport because it seams they didn't recognize my Slovenian ID!


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9661 times:

At MSE (in the days of EUjet) it only took 5 mins to go from aircraft seat to car seat! (no luggage of course... and a pretty-much empty fokker!)

User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9599 times:

I was at STN yesterday and think it is a really nice airport. Its spacious, airy and the windows were spotless. the only thing I can say is they have more armed guards than passengers present which is very intimidating (police are unarmed in Ireland so were not used to seeing semi-automatic machiene guns in our faces at every corner) and I think they should drop the "London" from the name as it is surely not in London. An hour non-stop on a train from Liverpool St. was longer than my actual flight.
Other than that its a very pleasant airport!!


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9599 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 14):
At MSE (in the days of EUjet) it only took 5 mins to go from aircraft seat to car seat! (no luggage of course... and a pretty-much empty fokker!)

I've managed that at MAN - though it was an ERJ arriving from the EU. I think I timed it at 4 minutes from leaving the aircraft, to being on the car park transfer bus!



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User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9599 times:

If you were there yesterday the things are 2: Or you didn't pay attention at how dirty were the windows around the whole terminal.. or sorry.. that's normal for you.. Big grin Big grin Big grin

User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9577 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 16):
I've managed that at MAN - though it was an ERJ arriving from the EU

mmm aren't you in the EU as well? Big grin


User currently offlineIMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9556 times:

I visit STN quite frequently and on the whole I like it. Never noticed anything dirty. The only mayor problem I have encountered is the ridiculous wait for security at departures. But that's not really STN related. The capacity is there allright. I've seen the same thing happening at LHR and that is BAA choosing to use only half or less of the screening capacity while people while the wait is forever. Sent an email to BAA about this on several occasions involving STN and LHR. No reply obviously. Lets hope these -perhaps- new spanish owners of BAA add some chapters to the manual, such as costumer friendliness, caring about passengers, not just retail etc....But on the whole nothing wrong with stansted, getting but small perhaps. remember STN as an old shack.. Then they built the current complex and it seemed huge and way to ambitious. Well see what can happen!!


IM


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9443 times:

Quoting Koper (Reply 4):
do you like to see the windows totally dirty?

While they are not spotless, they're not so bad that you can't see out of them.


User currently offlineDC10Widebody From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9434 times:

I found STN a really pleasant airport, although I did not fly into it, I just flew out of it on KLM, STN-AMS. But I thought it was very bright and airy, nice shops but no bar that I could find around the KLM area  Sad.


Cheers thanks a lot.
User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9434 times:

That COWSHED you talk of, is my 2nd favourite airport, after LCY.

The dirty windows....it's called tinted glass.

STN has a team of window cleaners who work Mon-Fri 6am to 6pm in all weather cleaning the windows....so if there were dirty, there would have cleaned pretty quick.

4 immigration officer....not bad compared to LHR or LGW on a weekend.
Bear in mind most flights to STN are from winthin the EU, so there's hardly many Visa/Passport checks that are indepth and need to be closely looked at.

 wave 



Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 22):
The dirty windows....it's called tinted glass.

It depends by how a person is able to see. If you exchange 10 cm of dust with the tinted glass and you love to look at them.. well it's up to you. I just hope that kind of 'dusty' glass aren't like your home windows..  Wink


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9378 times:

If you wanted to land at a pleasant London airport you should have booked a flight to LCY.

25 MichiganMAN : that quote so makes me think of EWR for all the Non US Citizens trying to get into the USA.
26 Post contains images BBJII : Sorry to be so Defiant, but how'd you know it was 10cm of dust? If you looked closer, maybe yopu see it was Jetblast dirt and grit, as seen as 99% of
27 Post contains images Koper : Just look at the entrance where all the people smoke what it is.. and you will see.
28 Joost : KLM does not fly STN-AMS. KLM UK did in the past, but that's already a long time ago - I don't remember it, must be over 5 years ago.
29 Amhilde : Seriously, you judge an airport on the cleanliness of its WINDOWS? Sheesh- who cares? On the balance its a great airport.
30 YYZYYT : that's not unusual: at LHR, non-EU can wait for a long time (depending on your the time of day and no. of flights, not to mention who is on them). Al
31 Ba757gla : trains in the uk are very expensive so no wonder you paid over the odds.
32 Rdwootty : I cannot understand why you took the train when the bus is not only about half the price but actually quicker to where you want to go. There are even
33 Koper : I agree that probably the bus is better.
34 FlyCaledonian : Can't understand why you had to wait so long. I thought we had a gaint doormat at all our airports with WELCOME written on it, and officials handing o
35 Koper : Just go and see by yourself. By the way i don't see the reason you are in the EU since you are the only EU country with the immigration desks for peop
36 FlyCaledonian : Maybe because we like to try and pretend we have some control over our Borders? We have large numbers of people coming from the Eastern EU member sta
37 Prebennorholm : Dear Koper, you are confusing the EU with the Schengen area. Within the Schengen area there is no immigration control. The Schengen area is 13 EU cou
38 Planesarecool : I must say, the railway links in and out of Stansted is far from great. However i found it was a pretty nice airport to fly from. Very bright, everywh
39 Vasu : Which pier is the domestic pier? The little one to the left of the main one? I thought that was primarily an EZY pier now...
40 Post contains images DC10Widebody : Thank you, it was a KLM UK flight STN-AMS in August of 2000, very pleasant short hop with free beer .
41 Post contains images NZ8800 : Until fairly shortly, Switzerland does too As Prebonnerholm said, the EU and Schengen are different things. Ireland is also outside the Schengen Zone
42 Parabolica : I agree that there is NOTHING good to say about Sandtead, unless it is an exit point from the Uk. Dirty, distant, poorly organized and utterly provinc
43 Post contains images Koper : Then it's useless, if not ridicolous, to make different desks with the written EU CITIZEN.
44 Post contains links Joost : Yes. At the treaty of Amsterdam (1997) it was decided that future applicants to the European Union must fulfil the Schengen Agreement criteria regard
45 Koper : About Schengen i think i can be one of the few members who can really say something since i live in Koper (Slovenia) at 5 km from the Italian border a
46 BAtriple7 : Whilst I have had my fair share of stressful times at STN over the last 7-8 years or so, and being a frequent FR traveller from the start, I have to
47 Sergeant655 : STN is a nice airport athough they could turn the volume down on metal detector #9 . That thing is so loud you can hear it from the other end of the a
48 Post contains images Gilesdavies : I agree STN has very good parking facilities but the "Pink Elephant"/Long Stay car park as it is called is miles away from the terminal! When I have
49 HBJZA : I don't want to be rude or whatsoever but for my point of view, everything in the UK is dirty from hotels to airports and all public areas. Sorry agai
50 Post contains images Koper : Do you mean the carpets or moquettes in the toilettes?
51 Almeriabound : I fly into Stansted 3 or 4 times a year and never have any problem whatsoever. Sure...if several flights arrive at the same time, it might take 30 min
52 DC10BHX : I think it has already been pointed out that the UK is actually part of the CTA and not Schengen. I also think you will find that staff can be rude a
53 BAtriple7 : HBJZA, don't worry, you HAVE been rude. How would you feel if someone on these boards were to describe your country as boring, clean and rather bland?
54 Lapper : What takes so long at the security queues is, regardless of how many signs that are up, in every conceivable language, pictures etc. that people still
55 Post contains images TuRbUleNc3 : LOL! i needed a good laugh
56 Post contains images FlightLover : Not a bad point but unless you have a system like in the US, where all aliens entering the country get a nice free picture and a fingerprint and file
57 Post contains images Scouseflyer : All this talk of long queues makes me remember when I used to travel to the Channel islands a lot with work from the giant airports at Exeter and Bris
58 HBJZA : I KNOW but it was just in order to be honest about my thinking. And I only involved my own thinking into it. Anyway only truth is harming. Sorry agai
59 HBJZA : As I forgot to add it to my last post, I think I am totally aware of how my country is but also find negative points about it. Free speech permits pe
60 Ned Kelly : Sorry to hear that you had to wait when you arrived at STN, in my experience I have not had to queue at all. You must have arrived at a busy time when
61 Koper : It's nothing to be offended. The UK rebate sounds anything? Slovenia is one of the most advanced new member states if not the most advanced in terms
62 Keego : Very true but at least they're easily accessed. I'm not too sure about Gatwick but Heathrow is only 30-40mins from Central London on the tube or 15 o
63 FlyCaledonian : Erm, despite the rebate we still put in more than we get back from the EU. And the reason we get the rebate is because of the Common Agricultural Pol
64 Planesarecool : That's the one. EZY use gates 1, 2, 4, 6, 9 and 10. Aurigny and FlyBE dominate 5 and 7, Ryanair dominate 10 and 3 is mainly used for the likes of Bul
65 Arsenal@LHR : Incorrect. Heathrow IS in London. it falls in the borough of Hillingdon, Middlesex is simply a geographical area in greater London.
66 N270ft : I have travelled in and out of Stansted twice on Maxjet. Once to JFK and once to dulles and both times found it an wonderful airport. On arrival it to
67 Ned Kelly : I thought someone might bring this up, I guess this is debateable and depends on where people define the boundaries of London, political or geographi
68 LeonB1985 : Immigration at LTN can take forever too. We returned from August at about 23:30 and found two immigration officers for about 8 aircraft which had all
69 LO231 : Right on! I mean , get over it! I come from Poland where the new terminal was built some 14 years ago and it was to last till forever! Now they're fi
70 Post contains images Koper : My airport is not LJU, i live in Koper and my closest airports are TRS and VCE where i generally fly from. For the rest i don't make any comment on y
71 Post contains images Eham : Flew in and out of Stansted last Wednesday. It took me 15 minutes to pass the passport control. When departing for Amsterdam it took me 30 minutes to
72 Post contains images Joost : Slovenia is a net contributor since the day they joined the EU. Actually, the only countries that did not set limits for EU-new 10 member states, are
73 AussieItaliano : I couldn't agree more, and I'm a US citizen. I've never been treated so awful entering a foreign country as I have been when re-entering my own.
74 Ualcsr : I also agree. Koper, your experience with US immigration/customs was the exception rather than the rule. It's embarassing to see the way over-zealous
75 Lehovec : I live and work at STN and it never happened to me. I do cross the border every weekend. Not a single time I haven't had a problem with my Slovenian
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