ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1504 times:
Neither were profitable, nor big enough. AA is probably kicking itself today for not sticking with RDU though, as this would have enabled them to build a much
stronger East Coast presence that could have offset UA's growth at IAD, US at
PHL and CLT, DL at ATL, and CO at EWR.
Ncflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 449 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1489 times:
I don't think RDU ever got a fair shot from AA. I thought it strange at the time that AA built two new hubs reasonably close together-- therefore both were subscale and competing against each other. Had AA only picked RDU, maybe it would have been profitable. RDU has: excellent location geographically, great weather (i.e. few delays), little congestion, and the demographics of this market are quite good for O/D traffic. A little known factoid is that RDU has more O/D than Charlotte (Even before the arrival of SWA), even though Charlotte has a huge hub there. This is an upscale, well educated, highly mobile community. JI has very ambitious expansion plans here, with the aircraft on order to back it up, and contrary to popular opinion, they are ONLY a low fare airline when they compete with SWA, otherwise they are as expensive as the rest ($850 walkup fare to LGA for instance).
Ncflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 449 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
While I don't have any Hard data, most local frequent travelers will tell you that the RDU LGW flight is subsidized in some manner by Glaxo Wellcome, US HQ in RTP, WW HQ in London. We RDU locals call the flight the Glaxo shuttle.
Can't imagine this flight would exist otherwise, as it's often empty, and almost ALWAYS available at charter rates. Furthermore, the flight has no feed, since AA has no hub here anymore.
Wonder if anyone out there knows the details of the subsidy. Even my travel agent says it's subsidized somehow.
N960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1337 times:
In AMR's anual report for 1999 there's a time line and for 1995 they state "Operations in Raliegh/Durham and Nashville were scaled back and resources shifted to more productive hubs."
In June I flew AA from LAX-DFW-RDU, it was a 763 and there was no change of planes in DFW. In RDU there was only one other AA aircraft, another 763 but a bunch of Midways.
Also on a side note at RDU I saw an A310 that said "State of Qatar" or something. Anyone know what that was doing there?