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Boeing Signs Sky Airlines As First European 737-90  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5406 times:

Boeing Signs Sky Airlines as First European 737-900ER Customer

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060608/sfth023.html?.v=55


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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5328 times:
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That's good news for Boeing. It looks like the 737 will be in production for a few more years to come. Yes, Turkish carriers operate more 737's than any other aircraft type. It is no surprise to me that all 737's in Turkey are currenty 400 and 800 Series aircraft because with all the holiday destinations in the country, the airlines over there need high capacity aircraft for pax huling, since there is a high demand for air travel especially in high season. Maybe THY also will order 900ER's to be added to the 800's already operated in large number, for expansion and to replace the A310. Pax capacity wise and range wise, THY could consider the 900ER as A310 replacement.

Ben Soriano
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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5318 times:

Technically that's not true - Antalya is on the Asian side of Turkey  Wink


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

I though XL had ordered the 737-900ER - and they are European!

or have XL ordered the vanilla -900?



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5287 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 3):
I though XL had ordered the 737-900ER - and they are European!

So did I, shouldn't that mean they are the first operator in Europe to order the 900ER?

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 3):
or have XL ordered the vanilla -900?

Not the vanilla 900, they ordered the 900ER  Smile

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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

Whether you like it or not, Turkey,as a whole, is considered to be a European country and it is... So any Turkish airline, regardless of their hub, is a European airline.


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User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

Turkey belongs to Europe. They are our friends.

What range has the 737-900 ER?



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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Quoting TommyBP251b (Reply 6):
Turkey belongs to Europe. They are our friends.

What range has the 737-900 ER?

Danke my friend... 12 punkte für Deutschland  Smile

According to the article 737-900 ER has a range of 5900 kms.

I guess you are referring to the above suggestion for TK to replace their 310s with 900ERs. Its not quite a replacement actually. Seat capacity is lower, 900 ER has single aisle and TK's 310s have a range of 8100 kms (one of them has 8980 kms). In the past, TK sent 310 to JNB/CPT as 340 replacement when they were having their checks and they are still a "just in case" back up of our 330s and 340s.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2217 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5140 times:
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Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 7):
According to the article 737-900 ER has a range of 5900 kms.

That is with 180 seats, though... put 215 seats in and range drops to around 4600-4800 km.



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User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

Excel Airways are leasing 2 737-900ERs through GECAS. This press release indicates Excel will receive their two 737-900ERs in May 2008.

The Boeing press release for Sky Airlines says they will take delivery of their aircraft in the first quarter of 2009.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9690 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

Well this is good news even though it is hard to get that excited about 3 airplanes. Sky Airlines only ordered three, but at least it is progress for a plane that probably will never sell in high numbers.


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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4777 times:



Boeings press release. http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q2/060608a_nr.html

I do hope that Boeing at least will exceed more than 100 orders for the 737-900ER or even that it might become a hit and sell some hundreds.

[Edited 2006-06-08 23:54:55]


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Now, we gotta get AS to order the damn thing too!


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
It looks like the 737 will be in production for a few more years to come.

Lol... Was there any doubt of that? Boeing has larger orders from much larger customers through 2012. What makes this order special?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4461 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4607 times:

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 2):
Technically that's not true - Antalya is on the Asian side of Turkey  

Technically, AYT is 200 miles NW of AKT, Akrotiri, European Cyprus.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
Pax capacity wise and range wise, THY could consider the 900ER as A310 replacement.

I agree with Turkishwings on this one. Not only range and pax capacity, but in terms of the cargo hold, the 900ER is too small of a plane to replace the 310s.


User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3008 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

I don't think that TK will order 900ER's. They are very pleased with their current fleet of 400 and 800's. It would make sense to me, if they would order the 900ER.
Why did SX order the 900ER? I am sure that all of their routes can be reached with 800's and I would think that this type is cheaper and is available before the 900ERs. Please correct me if I am wrong!  Smile

Have SX already start domestic scheduled services?

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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4444 times:

Is 5900 Km the max.range ? Is it with the max.configuration ?

What are the cities that could be reached out of TUN with B739ER ?


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 15):
Have SX already start domestic scheduled services?

If you mean Sky Airlines with SX, no they didn't start domestic scheduled operations. They do occasional IST-AYT, IST-BJV, IST-DLM etc on behalf of Turkish tour operators but on charter basis...

Honestly, I have no idea why they ordered such a new and expensive plane either. A second hand 321 or even a squeezed 800 could work for them. I wonder what their plans are with its range... IST-MLE or IST-MOM?  Smile

Do you guys realize how many Turkish charter airlines there are and how much they actually neglect the Turkish market? They are all doing incoming but very few outgoing. Just the occasional SSH or DXB from Atlasjet when there is a longish holiday in Turkey....

Hey how about a Turkish aviation thread? There is Indýa, Ireland and all other countries but we don't have one to discuss ours  Smile



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

I was at Airex today at IST, great organization! The Boeing stand was hydrid with the SKY airlines stand, and there were good displays on the 737 NG and the 787 series, rumor has it TK is researching the 787  Smile


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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 18):
rumor has it TK is researching the 787

Good old TK rumours  Smile When I was flying, there was a rumour that TK was looking for a 747 for the JFK route  Smile

They will eventually replace the 340s so it is normal that they are looking at alternatives.



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

yeah i saw some captains at Airex today, apparently some of them will be assigned to be on a committee soon to see what boeing is a good option for long range, seeing as we poor 737 folk don't have anything to upgrade too lol


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26704 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 5):
Whether you like it or not, Turkey,as a whole, is considered to be a European country and it is... So any Turkish airline, regardless of their hub, is a European airline.

Then why is the vast majority of the country on Asia Minor? Turkey should be proud to be an Asian country, not constantly striving to be part of Europe



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

Turkey is far more involved culturally in Europe and historically as well, infact we don't have much in common with Asia at all... Maybe 100s of years ago traces of our culture come from Asia, but the truth is, right now we live like Europeans do and we conduct our way of life mostly like Europe...


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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Then why is the vast majority of the country on Asia Minor? Turkey should be proud to be an Asian country, not constantly striving to be part of Europe

Asia minor is an old term and no longer used. As Pilotaydin said, we have a European way of life. There is very very little in common between Asia and Turkey. Maybe religion might be a reason why people think we are an Asian (Middle-Eastern rather) country but many of those people do not know that we are a secular state. And no we are not striving to be European. We already are European. I understand your comment though being French and all...

Have you ever been to Turkey?



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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 11):
I do hope that Boeing at least will exceed more than 100 orders for the 737-900ER or even that it might become a hit and sell some hundreds.

To answer my question, Boeing lists 33 orders for the B737-900ER. But GECAS could order up to 30 737-900ER's and Spice Jet are talking about 9 airframes. This gives us at most 69 B739ER already. So I think that the B739ER will do very well compared to the 739 non ER version.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4461 posts, RR: 12
Reply 25, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 18):
rumor has it TK is researching the 787  

Yippeeee...
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
be proud to be an Asian country

I answer to this while drinking a big bottle of Duvel. Until Asians come up with a better beer, I'll stick with the Europeans.


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