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Us Airways Will Discontinue Service To KIN And SDQ  
User currently offlineM180up From El Salvador, joined May 2006, 403 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8322 times:

reading my bulletins yesterday we got a new one saying service to KIN and SDQ from FLL will be dropped if i remember correctly on september 9th, any info about this? there wasn't more info on the bulletin, is still pending

[Edited 2006-06-08 20:04:24]


Werner from SAL
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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32568 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8319 times:

Yes, it is true, but US Airways will still fly to Kingston on Saturdays from Charlotte (definitley not going to last) and to Santo Domingo on Saturdays from Philadelphia.

America West management never liked the FLL focus city. Now only LGA, MCO, and EYW are left.



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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8215 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Now only LGA, MCO, and EYW are left.

I thought CUN was still served as well. Daily A319, IIRC.


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

Wasn't the whole FLL focus city thing a Baldanza thing before he came to NK??

Quoting M180up (Thread starter):
reading my bulletins yesterday we got a new one saying service to KIN and SDQ from FLL will be dropped if i remember correctly on september 9th

I guess thats good news for us!!



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8097 times:

How about FLL-CUN? I heard that is going away too but isn't listed here...

User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

Really a shame. US Airways strategy has shifted with management shifts and quite frankly AA wasn't going to allow another legacy to come into their territory. We will see if NK can make it for the long haul on these routes or if eventually they pull back as well.

I do have to say though if an airline cannot make FLL-KIN work, they aren't trying hard enough. While most people from Latin America and Carribean prefer MIA even if they live in Broward, the Jamaicans that I know in Miami-Dade prefer FLL and obviously so do the Jamaicans in Broward. I guess US is just pulling the plug on FLL altogther, so hopefully they'll give up some gates and allow Jet Blue or WN to expand.


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7948 times:

yea, I see this more of a strategy change versus poor performance on the flights. US just doesn't have the aircraft to do what they need to do there.

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7906 times:

Excellent news for Delta who just started this route.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineDelta787 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7906 times:

They really have cut back in FLL. I was just looking through a really old newspaper that had an advertisement with a map of all the new routes that were being started from FLL.


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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7866 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
Excellent news for Delta who just started this route.

What route did Delta start?


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6572 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7837 times:

Quoting Kkfla737 (Reply 9):
What route did Delta start?

DL just inaugurated service to KIN. However, US's cancellation of FLL-KIN won't do much to help Delta. The FLL-KIN route was mostly O+D with minimal connections.

DL's ATL-KIN will rely heavily on connections if the route is to survive.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7778 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Now only LGA, MCO, and EYW are left.

What frequency is LGA-FLL on US? Is there enough O&D to sustain the remaining FLL flights?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32568 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7647 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 4):
How about FLL-CUN? I heard that is going away too but isn't listed here...

The route is staying. I don't expect FLL-CUN to be discontinued, but never say never. FLL-CUN was existed before the US Airways' minihub.

Also the latest wild (and I won't believe it until I see a PR) rumour going around is that US might be doing some minor international expansion out of MIA when the new Star terminal comes around. We'll see, I don't buy it, but it has been going around.

[Edited 2006-06-09 01:20:11]


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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7602 times:

Quoting M180up (Thread starter):
correctly on September 9th, any info about this?

September 2nd

Quoting Nkops (Reply 3):
I guess thats good news for us!!

Not that good DL is on the way

Quoting Kkfla737 (Reply 5):
US Airways strategy has shifted with management shifts and quite frankly AA wasn't going to allow another legacy to come into their territory.

AA had nothing to do with it, it was really HP management and NK combined with customs facilities not built to handle the flights and it was doomed from the start.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
The route is staying. I don't expect FLL-CUN to be discontinued

FLL-CUN is going to Saturday only service

Overall FLL will go down to about 20 flights, off topic but today flight 706 is operating as a 767 something you will not see US do at FLL for probably a very long time

Hawk44



Never under estimate the power of US
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

Quoting Kkfla737 (Reply 9):
What route did Delta start?

I am sorry. I meant to say Delta just started this route out of ATL, not FLL. I said it might be great for Delta because they have a big prescence in florida and can route the FLL pax up to ATL and down to KIN.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7565 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 14):
I said it might be great for Delta because they have a big prescence in florida and can route the FLL pax up to ATL and down to KIN.

They have JM to feed them in from KIN and MBJ

Hawk44



Never under estimate the power of US
User currently offlineUalcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7474 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Also the latest wild (and I won't believe it until I see a PR) rumour going around is that US might be doing some minor international expansion out of MIA when the new Star terminal comes around. We'll see, I don't buy it, but it has been going around.

The rumor I've heard is that per agreement with Miami-Dade County, Star must have minimum 35 flights out of the new terminal. I 've counted the following (although I could be off by a few):

AC - 1 flight
LH - 1 flight
LX - 1 flight
RG - 3 flights (2 GRU, 1 GIG)
UA - 6 flights (2 IAD, 2 ORD, 2 DEN)
US - 18 flights (5 CLT, 2 LAS, 5 NAS, 4 PHL, 1 PHX, 1 PIT)

Total - 30, provided RG stays afloat. As it's unlikely that any international carrier would add flights to reach the 35 minimum, it would be up to UA or US. Given that I'm a former MIA UA employee, all my rumors come from UA sources and I've heard that UA might make up the slack with a few TED flights out to the West Coast. Again, all pure speculation.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3372 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7458 times:

Quoting Ualcsr (Reply 16):
US - 18 flights (5 CLT, 2 LAS, 5 NAS, 4 PHL, 1 PHX, 1 PIT)

Since when does US have 5 flts from MIA-NAS?


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7437 times:

Well US should just give up on the FLL focus city, they've basically just given up on it.

Actually at one point the focus city looked like it had a bright future as a point where US could fly to points that relied on O&D traffic that couldnt be served elsewhere in the US system. Also for people in the South Florida region who wanted a alternative to AA and MIA..

So long US FLL Focus City  wink 

Best Regards,
MD90fan  wave 



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32568 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7437 times:

Quoting Ualcsr (Reply 16):
AC - 1 flight
LH - 1 flight
LX - 1 flight
RG - 3 flights (2 GRU, 1 GIG)
UA - 6 flights (2 IAD, 2 ORD, 2 DEN)
US - 18 flights (5 CLT, 2 LAS, 5 NAS, 4 PHL, 1 PHX, 1 PIT)

AC is four flights - 3x YYZ and 1x YUL. However, June through September, only 2x (YYZ and YUL on SaSu).

Varig is schedule is very inconsistent, but never more than two daily flights. US does not fly MIA-NAS, those are codeshares with Bahamasair, and MIA-LAS is 1x daily.

UAL is supposed to re-start MIA-SFO this fall, from what I hear. Daily 757 or 319 to connect with trans-Pacific, it is supposed to be TED.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7412 times:

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 17):
Since when does US have 5 flts from MIA-NAS?

They don't, they are part of the codeshare with Bahamasair(UP)..When the FLL focus city was announced, USX(PSA) was going to fly FLL-NAS/PLS with CRJ's.



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User currently offlineUalcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7298 times:

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 17):
Since when does US have 5 flts from MIA-NAS?

Didn't realize it was a code-share. Sorry.

So, if you reduce the 5 flights (and 1 to LAS), and make adjustments for RG's and AC's changing schedule, we're talking about 23 to 26-ish Star flights from MIA. If the 35 flight rumor is true, who do you think would pick up the flights? UAL bringing back MIA-SFO would be great, and I could see an additional IAD given the expansion there.


User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7246 times:

There is currently only 1 dailly frequency FLL-LGA on US. This flight will be gone on the September schedule change, as well.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32568 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7157 times:

Quoting Ualcsr (Reply 21):
So, if you reduce the 5 flights (and 1 to LAS), and make adjustments for RG's and AC's changing schedule, we're talking about 23 to 26-ish Star flights from MIA. If the 35 flight rumor is true, who do you think would pick up the flights? UAL bringing back MIA-SFO would be great, and I could see an additional IAD given the expansion there.

Well, UA could definitley beef up. It is pathetic they only have two dailies to IAD and ORD in the first place. They should be at least 3x daily each. DEN could probably handle a third daily as well. Bring back LAX and SFO, and boom, UA is at 11x.



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User currently offlineNADC10Fan From United States of America, joined May 2005, 165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6667 times:

I must say, as a regular flier out of FLL, I regret this news. I've flown US from here on a variety of occasions, and the experience has always been good. For the airline industry, I suppose that reduction of capacity is necessary thing - but I can't say as I really want to see it in my home. In fact, from US I was hoping for the opposite, so I could perhaps catch some of their more 'interesting' aircraft. Ah well, will just have to do that in other ways, I guess ...  Sad


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25 Post contains images Bomber996 : Well... this dramatically decreases my options for SDQ. My family owns a house outside of SDQ and now it looks like we will be left with just a week o
26 Nkops : I meant strictly out of FLL. You won't fly NK??? It's a 321.. can't be that bad!
27 M180up : its the same flight that is coming from kin, the routing is kin/fll/lga checked my bulletin just a few seconds ago, its sep 5th, but we still have in
28 Hawk44 : So did I, DL is rumored to start international flights from FLL in the near future. Overall the flight may not be that bad but arriving in FLL on a 3
29 Etops1 : i just sent an e-mail to scott kirby our vp of marketing on this. i really hope they do not f-up the sdq service. at least move it to daily service ou
30 TOLtommy : The problem is that there are much higher yiuelding markets that these aircraft would be better utilized on. KIN and SDQ are both leisure and VFR mark
31 FlyMIA : SDQ and KIN are not leisure markets. There is very little tourist traffic to the airports, hence they have limited US service. PUJ and MBJ, respectiv
32 Dj1986 : Swiss isn't flying ZRH-MIA daily, only 5 weekly.
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