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CRJ 200 "A Miserable Airplane"  
User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27203 times:

This is what Scott Hamilton, an aviation consultant from Washington called the airplane in comments about Mesa Airines Hawaii based airline "Go". The airline will start service tomorrow with 32 daily flights between HNL and LIH, OGG and KOA. Mesa has started a fare war with fares of $19.00 one way that were quickly matched by Hawaiian Airlines.
I've never flown on a CRJ 200. Are they that bad?

Full article here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...AID=/20060608/BUSINESS03/606080357

Aloha,
HALFA


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User currently offline727Tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27168 times:

He's not far off in my opinion.

I'm 5'10, 170, but broad-shouldered. I'm miserable every time I'm on one of them. I have yet to find a good spot in which to sit. It is much worse if you have two average-sized men sitting next to each other; you become very friendly with your neighbor.

[Edited 2006-06-08 22:15:58]

User currently offlineEasternSon From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27122 times:

I have to agree with HALFA. I'm 6'2", and while sitting in coach in a B737 is difficult for me, a CRJ200 is like torture.

I can't even stand up straigh when entering one. I mean, I can't even just duck my head, I have to bend at the waist to keep my head from hitting the top of the fuselage.

But, what the hell do you want for a $38 round trip flight?



"The only people for me are the mad ones...." Jack Kerouac
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27087 times:

I fly on about 20 of these sardine cans each year, and I loathe every single flight in them, despite me being small (5'6" 130 lbs) and being in the exit row. Seats are very narrow, very slim padding, the windows are way too low...I've gone 600 miles out of my way just to get MD-88s instead of flying these soup cans. The CRJ-700 is a little better, but give me any Embraer for an RJ over any Canadair.

Jeff


User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27087 times:

I am 6'3'' and find a CRJ-200 difficult, however, I prefer it to the Embraer 145, unless of course you get one of the single seats.

User currently offlineScintx From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 270 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27030 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 3):
fly on about 20 of these sardine cans each year, and I loathe every single flight in them, despite me being small (5'6" 130 lbs) and being in the exit row. Seats are very narrow, very slim padding, the windows are way too low...I've gone 600 miles out of my way just to get MD-88s instead of flying these soup cans. The CRJ-700 is a little better, but give me any Embraer for an RJ over any Canadair.

Jeff,

I'm right there with you. My complaint is they now want to fly them from major city to major city. I understand going from a hub to a small city in some cases. I'll do what it takes to get out of flying them. As far as an Embraer it has my vote.

Steve



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User currently offlineTreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 27030 times:

Personally I think every CRJ from the 200 to the 900 is a miserable airplane to fly on but hey for a flight that short and a low price like that who cares? and anyway isn't GO supposed to use Ejets soon?


Allons-y!
User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26999 times:

CRJ200 and -900s are horrible in terms of comfort--supposedly the -700s, -705s are eons better.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3784 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26966 times:

I hate how low the windows are on the earlier CRJs. I'm 5'5" & have to duck to look out them.

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26966 times:

I don't find them that bad. I'm 5'10'', so I'm not at tall as the rest of you, but found them to be okay. The low windows were really obnoxious, I had a headache at the end of the flight from having to bend down to see outside. But other than that it's no worse than the ERJ. I'm don't understand all the complaints from people.

Plus on a short hour-or-so long flight inter-Hawaii they shouldn't be bad. It's when you get closer to two hours that they become a pain, but that's with any small airplane.

Jeremy


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26966 times:

How long are these flights going to be anyway? I can't imagine that an inter-island flight would ever be more than 1 hour.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26937 times:

I hate them. It's the seats for me. Everytime I fly on one, I get a backache and headache. The back cushions are bolstered wrong and the bottom cushions are too thin.

The worst one was MSP-DFW on an American Eagle CRJ-700.

Mark

[Edited 2006-06-08 22:45:48]

User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26937 times:

Absolutely the worst aircraft I have ever flown on period. Believe it or not its even less comfortable than the Ford 4AT Trimotor I was lucky enough to fly on some years back. At least the Ford had nostalgia and fun in its favor. I am 5'11" and an athletic 215. With someone sitting beside me I have hunch my shoulders forward, spine curved and knees/legs angled sideways. Even the 40 minute PIT-CVG run is torture.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26901 times:

My question is how will they turn a profit with those high CASM CRJs even at the $70 fare? I assume they'll put larger capacity jets in the market asap.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26874 times:

Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):
I've never flown on a CRJ 200. Are they that bad?

Short answer - yes.

CRJ-200's suck pants - they are small, cramped, the window is down at knee-level, you have to suffer permanent curvature of the spine if you sit in the window seat, and God forbid you should have anyone in the seat next to you.


User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26856 times:

I have never had a pleasant flight on any airline's CRJ aircraft - if I am forced to fly a commuter jet I try, when possible, to schedule an Embraer even if it is on a carrier that I would normally not prefer.


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User currently offlineDeltaDAWG From United States of America, joined May 2006, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26856 times:

They are the modern day version of an Inquisition torture chamber! Not the -200, but ALL of them. I have sat in the front seat, exit seats, back seats, aisle and windows, AND THEY ALL ARE TUBES OF TORTURE!

I can only hope that DL will one day, ex BK, cancel any remaining orders and place orders with Embraer for E-jets to replace all of them.

I believe that the CRJ's are the French-Canadians joke on the rest of the world, devised to be-devil the best man into torture and madness.

I find the most comfortable RJ to be the FRJ-328's. Too bad they are not around anymore.



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User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 853 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26829 times:

Well the votes in! Us tall people deffinately hate the damn thing. I can tollerate a CRJ for about as long as I can, nails on a chalk board. The ERJs are a tad better, but its best if youre on the single side of the a/c. Otherwise im with everyone else, at $19 dont complain for 45 mins.  dollarsign 


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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26806 times:

Quoting Flaps (Reply 12):
Absolutely the worst aircraft I have ever flown on period. Believe it or not its even less comfortable than the Ford 4AT Trimotor I was lucky enough to fly on some years back. At least the Ford had nostalgia and fun in its favor. I am 5'11" and an athletic 215. With someone sitting beside me I have hunch my shoulders forward, spine curved and knees/legs angled sideways. Even the 40 minute PIT-CVG run is torture.

I agree with you! I was going to use PIT-CVG as an example as well, haha! I like Delta, but not when it involves a CRJ!



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User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26735 times:

Did anyone else notice that those are former Independence Air seats with a go! sticker placed over where the "i" was on the seat back!!!

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26735 times:

I don't really mind them and I'm 5'11'' and 140lbs. It does depend on the route though. If I have the option to be on a bigger plane, then I usually take it. But on routes that have no other alternatives, or for short flights, I don't mind the CRJ. They are better than turboprops in my opinion since they don't make my head throb since even the newer turboprops with noise cancelling systems make my ears ring after a flight.


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User currently offlineCazito From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26708 times:

What I find amazing is the fact that the crj's are the most successful rj program in the history of aviation which just goes to show that airlines in general don´t give a damn to what their customers think.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26708 times:
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Like others have stated they are the worst, the aircraft type that is.


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User currently offlineEasternSon From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26660 times:

First of all, RoseFlyer, at 5'10" and 140 lbs, you should only be flying on airplanes that serve food, and lots of it.  Wink

Second, yes, the seats suck, yes, the windows are low, but most of all I hate this:

When sitting in a window seat, the curvature of the fuselage does no allow you to put your outside foot down in a natural position. It needs to be tucked under your other leg for the entire flight. Forget about stretching your legs and crossing them.

One ass-cheek always goes numb 15 minutes into the flight!



"The only people for me are the mad ones...." Jack Kerouac
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 26633 times:

Good thing GO is picking up E195's I guess.

25 727Tiger : EasternSon, you are dead-on. There is no way to sit comfortably in a CRJ window seat. Once the guy sat in the aisle seat next to me, we basically bump
26 EasternSon : Numb ass or not, I'm definitely island hopping in HI for $19. See you on the beach. I'll be the bald guy limping along with girls in hula skirts on ea
27 727Tiger : True, for $19, I'd peddle my feet like Fred Flintstone to get to Maui. First of all, I'm in Hawaii, Hawaii! Second, I'd be flying to one of the smalle
28 Post contains images CF188A : LOL.... you hate the CRJ-200 but enjoy that ERJ-145.... you obviously are somewhat confused. I am only 5'7, i have no problem with the CRJ nor does m
29 Boysteve : Eh? No I prefer the CRJ-200 to the ERJ-145. Sorry, I thought I'd made that clear
30 777fan : I've never had the (mis)fortune of flying a CRJ so I naturally can't attest to their level of comfort. That said, one only needs to take a look at th
31 Cmk10 : I'm 6 foot 1 and weigh about 180. However, I was flying them two years ago when my weight was around 210 and they were worse then. The windows are tin
32 Boeing757/767 : Back to that article, I love the reference to the E-Jets: Embry Air!!
33 Je89_w : For $19 it is not a very bad deal! Hmm, I've never been on a CRJ-200 before, but: Makes me think again! Hmm maybe a short hop to the neighbor islands
34 Post contains images HALFA : HNL to both OGG and LIH are about 20 minutes. Longest flights are to ITO (Hilo) at about 45 minutes. Your ass wont be numb if you take HA. HA has mat
35 RoseFlyer : Haha, and I actually am 5'11''. Being slender has its advantage when flying economy. The seat width isn't a problem. I am perfectly comfortable in a
36 TVNWZ : Whiners. Fly them all the time. Not that bad. I actually find them more comfortable than flying FL hard-as-rock seats. I think they are perfect for zi
37 Kaputt : Woah, they still have the Independence Air interiors in those planes.
38 BR715-A1-30 : I flew on a USAirways Express CRJ-200... I HATED IT!!!! At the end of the flight, I could hardly breathe...My neck and head were KILLING me. Luckily,
39 767-332ER : You guys are pathetic and ridiculous. I fly on them all the time and I am 6'1" at 180 lbs and I fly with my buddy who's about 6' and 300lbs...so yes,
40 Brilondon : I have flown on both types myself (CRJ-200 and the -700 and the EMB-145) I found that all three have a confining quality to them. The worst flight was
41 Post contains images Ca2ohHP : So if you don't like them, fly something else. I'm 6'2" and 188lbs, and if I can stand riding in it anyone else my size can. Yeah it's smaller than a
42 Brilondon : While we are discussing the merits of sardine cans that fly in the air. I have yet to fly on a ERJ-190. I assume that they are much roomier then the s
43 CF188A : Walk Run Drive Train Hitchhike teleport bicycle motorcycle scooter these are just a few ways to travel if you are not satisfied with the route of the
44 RoseFlyer : Since the only vaguely pertinent thing is teleport, you should consider, boat or swim. These are very short flights that we are talking about between
45 United_fan : As much as I'm not a huge fan of the CRJ or E145's , they're way better than the Junkstreams that United Express used to use. I hated those planes!
46 BR715-A1-30 : REGIONAL jet has nothing to do with size... It has to do with Range. Technically, the DC-9 is a REGIONAL jet, because it serves mainly a REGION. The
47 B4real : Agreed. Every operator I've ever been on of this a/c has had similar seat materials and I have disliked them all. Further, believe it or not... The s
48 UAL747 : The floor was lowered on the CRJ-700's so that the passenger windows were closer to head height on sitting passengers. I flew my first CRJ-700 to FAT
49 B4real : Also, I like how Jonathan Ornstein (guy in the picture of the article) is standing up, but leaning forward to percept that he is able to stand freely.
50 DfwRevolution : The window line is the same for all 737 series...
51 Gregtx : I'm 6'2" and while not comfortable, they are no worse than any other coach product. But yeah, I can't stand up in them. The -700 is marketably better.
52 KaiTakfan : CRJ 200's are the true garbage of the airline industry. Having worked and flown on plenty of CRJ's and now being an FO on the E-145, I have heard more
53 CF188A : could be me.... but I dont think the validity of this statement holds true on any level
54 Post contains links Je89_w : Wow just in, HA dropped their fares to $15! But the bigger surprise is that AQ is giving away 1,000 free neighbor island tickets! I can only imagine t
55 Post contains images ABQopsHP : Hang onto your grass skirts! This is just the beginning.
56 UAL747 : I think they are quite the aircraft actually. Besides the windows being a little too low, they are a sporty looking airliner. I think they are better
57 ABQopsHP : UAL that is so true! I dont know how many times I dreded the ATR42 flight CRP-IAH that took 1 hr. Then the RJs came along and it was back to 36 mins l
58 JoseMEX : I had the misfortune of being stuck on a window seat, on a 2-hour LGW-OVD flight (and return) which was packed to the gills, and despite Air Nostrum's
59 FLYACYYZ : Find this whole topic amusing. The article was based largely on the experience of flying between the Hawaiian Islands. I worked the aircraft for years
60 Post contains images DEVILFISH : Don't look now, but with the current price of jet fuel and record sales of the turboprops last year, you might soon find yourself on one again! So, g
61 MesaMXORD : Dont complain! we are getting bigger planes in there if this first phase works out. And I love our 145's the seats are more comfortable than our grab
62 Skyexramper : I personally hate the CRJ-200, I'm 6'1" with a normal build and HATE riding in the -200. It was a nightmare, tooo crammed in there, and since it's th
63 Post contains images DeltaGuy767 : I'm 6'1" with a normal biuld and hate the CRJ-200's, I try to avoid them as much as possible. Thankfully at BDL we haven't been demoted enough by DL t
64 MaverickM11 : Well clearly comfort doesn't matter since you all hate it but people still fly on it without batting an eyelash. That said, it is a miserable airplane
65 Post contains images Theweave33 : I'm forced to fly them 3-4 times a year since my route on any airlines requires a CRJ-200. SYR-(ORD, MSP, ATL, DFW)-SGF. So no real other option but t
66 FSPilot747 : Horrid little b*stards, they are. I'm 6ft and can't find a place to put my legs on those things.
67 Brons2 : I also hate the CRJ-200/700/900, any variant really. I am 6'7" (200cm) and it is a PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for me to sit in a window seat on any CRJ du
68 AlexPorter : I don't like them, and my worst flight was in seat 1A on a red-eye LAS-COS CRJ-900. I switched to 1A at the last minute, forgetting entirely about the
69 Post contains images TrojanAE : I've never flown a CRJ-200, but I have flown Saab 2000's multiple times, and I've loved it every time. The cabin is nice and roomy, the seats are per
70 Airbus3801 : I didn't mind an hour flight on a Mesa Air CRJ-200, but I could not STAND THE HA 717 window seat. You get less under seat storage at the window seat
71 Toulouse : I actually like the CRJ-200 for short regional flights. That said I have only flown on Iberia Air Nostrum CRJ-200's, which given their excellent servi
72 Post contains images N484ER : "With a 50-seat airplane, he can't make up on volume. ... At some point Ornstein will try to put in bigger aircraft than the 50-seat planes," possibl
73 Bluewave 707 : I was on that media preview flight on Wednesday, and for its size a CRJ200, is fine for a neighbor island jaunt. To me, it was like a Dash8 with jet e
74 Apodino : As someone who dispatches the airplane, as its the only type my company operates and who flies in the thing regularly my observations. 1. The other da
75 Yak97 : As regards the window location, how does the CRJ compare to 601 type exec jets if they came from the basic airframe? Are the seats different in the 6
76 Lobster : I've flown on the 200 twice. After the first time, I swore I'd never fly on that monstrosity again. However I managed to get booked on one for a short
77 CV990 : Hi! I think the topic is a bit "heavy".....the CRJ200 is not a "miserable airplane"....because I simply don't think there are "miserable airplanes"!!!
78 Post contains images Johnny : I am 1,83.Not very weak, to be honest... I cannot agree.The CRJ is way better than the ERJ145 or Saab 2000.It is equal to an ATR or Dash 8 in feeling.
79 Mikester540 : The CRJ is not 'miserable'... it's just cramped... The longest flights i've had on a CRJ were for like 1:30 minutes. These flights were dirt cheap, to
80 CV990 : Hi! I really don't think the CRJ200 is more or less the ERJ145 or even the ATR...I've flown both ERJ145 and ATR42 and at least regarding the level of
81 Don : There are no "misearble" airplanes, only "miserable" opinions of "miserable" journlists / experts.
82 Sushka : The windows are too low, and I can see how taller people have problems too. Despite that CRJ 200s are some of my very favorit airplanes. I like it for
83 UPSMD11 : The point of having an opinion is that we each have our own opinion. I agree with the statement that the ERJ-135/140/145 is more comfortable for "me"
84 Post contains images CPHGuard : This is my first post on A-Net, so hello everybody I really disagree, with the CRJ´s being miserable airplanes. I am 6'7" and 240 lbs, so i am probab
85 Ca2ohHP : Can't remember the last REGIONAL airline that operated 717's. Maybe you could enlighten me. I swear, do a search of topics and yeah it's a well-known
86 Irobertson : I'll jump in here and say that I'm not a fan of the CRJ either. At 5'9", my head nearly touches the ceiling along the aisle, the overhead compartments
87 Post contains images Comorin : Guys, I actually LOVE this plane and all regional jets for short hops. I'm 5' 6" and my favorite flight is the AC CRJ from LGA-YOW. This is the closes
88 MattRB : Flying two legs in CR2s today (YYZ-CLT, CLT-AVL - AC & US respectively). As someone who's flown them on a regular basis (every other month pretty much
89 Zamaria : My biggest complaint with the CRJ 200 besides the oft-mentioned low windows and seating position that only the Marquis de Sade could love was the real
90 Bucky707 : a strikingly pretty flight attendant can make up for a lot of shortcomings in the airplane.
91 7E72004 : The only thing i hate about the CRJs are the windows. I like looking out and obviously getting a good view and some pictures but i end up leaving the
92 Post contains images Jetflyer : I'm 6' 2" and 120lbs (ha) but it still sucks for me. Also I've just eaten a large pizza and am enjoying half a pavlova right now
93 DAYflyer : Scrounched down windows, narrow cramped seats, and little-to-no service is the hallmark of the CRJ 200 experience. Its the same with a 700, but in a l
94 CRJ 900 : not one of you have flown on a Air Canada Jazz 705 yet have you. Very comfortable, and we are now installing tvs for AVOD on every seat back. Funny, n
95 Mikefly562 : I just flew on a CRJ-200 yesterday...it was so packed and uncomfortable, but since I flew on them before, I was not that surprised about how bad it wa
96 Post contains images CRJ900 : I guess that proves that the aircraft are okay if they are furnished right, then...? With US and SkyWest having more CRJ701s and CRJ900s on order you
97 FlyDeltaJets : For $19 dollars i would help hand out peanuts, I would even stand for an hour.
98 AApilot2b : The CRJ 200 is an aweful passenger airplane! I've flown on them several times and I do not like them at all (for many of the same reasons stated above
99 Post contains images MattRB : Ah, AC's phallic aircraft Keep in mind that the CR7 is a CRJ-900 with only 75 seats, so, of course, it's going to be much more comfortable than AC's
100 Post contains images CF188A : makes no sense because the cabin height in the 145 is no better than that of the CRJ2 thats the airlines fault not the "aircraft" fault Canadair "REG
101 Gritzngravee : I'm 6'4" 235 lbs and flew a CRJ from STL to EWR. That wasn't the original plan as I was connecting from SFO to DFW but the hotel never gave me my wake
102 ACJAZZAME : I think you are all missing the point. Even for $19 they won't make any money and go will not last long. For me the concern would be how the 200's wil
103 ACJAZZAME : In times under an hour the Q400 will beat it gate to gate. Plus have you ever flown on both of them. The RJ isn't wider than the Q series and really
104 NW747-400 : Typically they are used for short haul routes around an hour...get over it or don't book a flight with a CRJ. It becomes a problem when airlines start
105 Petazulu : Just curious, how do you fly a CRJ-200 from the US to Hawaii on the delivery flight? It would seem way out of range. Do you have to make a special mod
106 B4real : Explain why you like the a/c please.
107 FLYACYYZ : AC Jazz CRJ's flew the route as they had slightly more range than the AC mainline CRJ's. As of last week, all YYZ-IAH flights are flown on the E75's
108 Comorin : I fly NYC - YOW often. In the old days, it was a turboprop route. Then along came the sleek CRJ and it was day and night. I love the plane because it
109 MesaMXORD : CF188A It does make sense cause it is a 2 1 config so you are not walking down the middle of the cabin you are walking on the LH side it's kinda weird
110 ATWZW170 : If you are 5' 5'' there is no way that you were overly uncomfortable on the CRJ. I'm not saying it's the most comfortable plane but it's fine for thos
111 KaiTakfan : Too bad pilots who fly the CRJ and ERJ arnt going at it over this one. All the ERJ captains that transfered over from the CRJ cant express enough how
112 CF188A : he should not have to. For those who are open minded, and actually use their head and understand the aircraft is meant for SMALL hops.... then obviou
113 Post contains images Comorin : Amen!
114 9252fly : I myself don't mind the aircraft. Once I make a point of remembering that it's a small regional jet,then I'm okay with it's limitations. I agree that
115 Jonathan L : I think they're horrible. If you really need to fly on one definitely get an aisle seat. I've only flown on them twice and it was a painful experience
116 Nwa747-400 : Nobody else noticed (or cares) about the DH seats on the a/c. Funny how he wanted to buy DH so bad and all he ended up with are the seats.
117 ContnlEliteCMH : If you're talking about intra-Hawaii travel, maybe... Otherwise, if you hate the CRJ-200 as much as I do, I have one word for you: CONTINENTAL. Not a
118 Post contains images CF188A : Stating.... thank you for your ... mindless opinion that we wish we never read? very mature.... You have obviously been in one to many unpressurized
119 FlyDreamliner : Yes, actually, maybe worse. The single least pleasurable aircraft in widespread western aviation service. I'm 6'4", 210lbs, and on a flight that isn'
120 ContnlEliteCMH : No, it thanked me for my opinion and told me that as a platinum, my input is valued for these types of decisions. I paid them a looooot of money last
121 Skyhawk62507 : Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!! I just flew two of these $@!&cans from DFW to CLT on Northwest, my first experience flying them. The seat comfort was fine... but
122 Brons2 : The problem for a tall person like myself (6'7") is the curvature of the fuselage in the WINDOW seats. It curves in before the top of my shoulders. I
123 Post contains images CF188A : yes your absolutely right.... one is common sense one is not.. ONE IS WIDER... ONE IS NOT... one has a slightly wider seat by a few inches, one does
124 Comorin : I just don't understand what all this fuss is about! Signed, Frodo Baggins
125 ABQopsHP : There was an earlier comment about "rather not being a crate in the cargo hold on one of these things". Well belive it or not the baggage bin in back
126 Post contains links ContnlEliteCMH : See, only a child thinks that disagreement or public bashing of an unpleasant product is a personal insult. You can like the CRJ; that's your preroga
127 Connies4ever : My own experience: Have done several YOW-YWG trips to see my girlfriend. Almost always on the CRJ. Shoulders a little tight, window seats not favoured
128 Brilondon : They will probably retrofit extra fuel tanks in the interior or the aircraft. This was done on the 717 when delivered to Austrailia.
129 Post contains images CF188A : You basically state that us "youngens" are fools of the universe and that we simply have no idea what we are talking about. Well, lets just draw a si
130 FriendlySkies : I've flown a CR2 back and forth GSP-ORD 3 times in the past month and it was fine...I'm 6'...besides the window height, I don't see what the big deal
131 NZ8800 : It was indeed, and the airfares. However the thread starter did make it clear they were wanting to know if the aeroplane is really as horrific as thi
132 Ha763 : It was Hawaiian's 717s that were fitted with aux fuel tanks and flown directly across the Pacific to HNL. There are pictures of this in the database.
133 Post contains images ContnlEliteCMH : Don't put words in my mouth. I said that you used the word "ignorant" when you should have used "incorrect" or "wrong." This seems to be a generation
134 Post contains links and images Corey07850 : I wouldn't mind flying on a CRJ so long as it is similar to this one: View Large View Medium Photo © Gerhard Plomitzer[Edited 2006-06-11 21:05:53]
135 ContnlEliteCMH : So do the models fly on the plane, or do they operate the flight? I might even look past my general distaste for the airplane if one of their beautie
136 FutureFO : The CRJ no matter what series is the worst and most horrid airframe out there. Non of them are very comfortable. At least the EMB and Ejets family are
137 Pualani : I flew a CRJ-200 from IAD - MCI. If I remember right the flight was almost 3 hrs long. I had the last row window seat opposite the lavatory. I was sup
138 Post contains images CF188A : Every little comment you made about the CRJ was a "factual" conclusion " the CRJ crams four miserable seats into a fuselage barely able to accommodat
139 ContnlEliteCMH : Well, thanks for admitting that you take such opinions personally. I mean what I'm about to say in no demeaning way: if this is what you find insulti
140 Post contains images CF188A : As stated sir ... you do not know me personally ... but yeah... its been a pleasure lol
141 PPVRA : Well, really, what are tenths of an inch more if you need a chiropractor to work on your neck after the flight? Maybe the ERJ has a few tenths of an i
142 ContnlEliteCMH : If you haven't flown the ERJ, how do you know the space therein is used more wisely?
143 CF188A : matter of opinion... lol. I laughed cause he is indeed from Brazil.... the home of the EMBRAER. Therefore the CRJ cant alllll be that bad lol
144 DEVILFISH : Please excuse me. Off-topic, but in case you hadn't noticed, you can relax as there's no call to be so politically correct anymore. The ban had been
145 AvConsultant : Yesterday, I flew on EV CRJ connecting to a DL 767 (coach), the seats were not the same width nor was the seat back. I was able to see seat cushion n
146 ContnlEliteCMH : No, even if I have to be on the starboard side of the aircraft as well. If I'm going to be stuck with another seated next to me, I *still* want it to
147 PPVRA : And youa re indeed form Canada, therefore, the CRJ can't indeed be that bad!!! Quit it with the childish attitude. I read this whole thread you two m
148 Post contains images Bmacleod : If they are "soooo bad" why are so many airlines holding on to them? Yes the new Embraers are way better and that why AC has ordered them yet still ke
149 ContnlEliteCMH : Apparently it's not so pointless, as you're responding to it. Thank you for actually answering my question with the last statement in the quote above
150 Caribb : I've flown the CRJ-200, -700 and ERJ-135 & -145 and quite frankly I was ok with all of them. They are a step up from a prop plane. Sure both aircraft
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