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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6544 times:

With the thread about flagship routes, we should also discuss about flagship aircraft. While some would say that flagship aircraft means largest aircraft, I don't think that is always true. For example, I do think that United considers the 777, rather than the 747, to be their flagship aircraft.

What I am pretty sure about is Delta. The 777-200ER is the flagship aircraft for international flights, while the 767-400ER is Delta's domestic flagship.


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User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6526 times:

At VS the A346 is the GUCCI aircraft. Although many of the crew don't actually like working on it, it has a much more glitzy cabin.

User currently offlineGVWOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 168 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6492 times:

Even though the A346 is LH's largest aircraft, the A330 is the only one that has PTVs. I'm not sure if LH advertises it as "their flagship" though. But LX does state that the A340 is their "flagship".

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1928 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6443 times:
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Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
What I am pretty sure about is Delta. The 777-200ER is the flagship aircraft for international flights, while the 767-400ER is Delta's domestic flagship.

I would think that flagship a/c would be the 763 being that most intl routes are flown with that plane. 777 only flies a few of Delta's many routes.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

Quoting GVWOW (Reply 2):
Even though the A346 is LH's largest aircraft, the A330 is the only one that has PTVs. I'm not sure if LH advertises it as "their flagship" though. But LX does state that the A340 is their "flagship".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 747-400 is LH's largest aircraft.

UAL


User currently offlineKL565 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6407 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
With the thread about flagship routes, we should also discuss about flagship aircraft. While some would say that flagship aircraft means largest aircraft, I don't think that is always true. For example, I do think that United considers the 777, rather than the 747, to be their flagship aircraft.

What I am pretty sure about is Delta. The 777-200ER is the flagship aircraft for international flights, while the 767-400ER is Delta's domestic flagship.

Would Have to say that that EK's flagship is the A340-500 they use on their DXB-JFK routes. That being said SQ'S would be the same, the a/c as they primarily fly it on their flagship routes SIN-LAX/EWR. But am assuming that when the A380 joins their respective fleets, things will change


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

I would think that Aer Lingus' A330-300 is their flagship aircraft. They also have a large A320 fleet of 21 aircraft (3 on order) and is used on most of their routes so that could also be the flagship for EI.

User currently offlineKL565 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6373 times:

KLM's would be the 777-200ER...Would expect that one after they converted their orders to the 777W.

User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6362 times:

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BA 747
KL 777 ??



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6353 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 3):
I would think that flagship a/c would be the 763 being that most intl routes are flown with that plane. 777 only flies a few of Delta's many routes.

Delta has put more features on the 777 in economy class than on the 767-300ER, including PTVs and EmPower. Even the 767-400ERs have EmPower in economy. However, there is soon the possiblity that all aircraft except for the MD-88 and MD-90 will get PTVs, and that includes the 767-400ER (both domestic and international) and possibly the 767-300ER. IMO Delta should install EmPower fleet-wide.



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6338 times:

I would say that at QF it's Wanula Dreaming and at CO it's Peter Max.


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User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6320 times:

Oh to the days of Clipper America and the 747 FriendShip......


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User currently offlineDaron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6314 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
For example, I do think that United considers the 777, rather than the 747, to be their flagship aircraft.

While the 777 is newer, I believe that Tilton has called the 747 UA's workhorse and that might make it more flagship. Nevertheless, I'm happy to be on both.

As for BA, I'd say 747 over 777 and SQ, I'd also say 747 over A340.


User currently offlineMaartenV From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6306 times:

Quoting KL565 (Reply 7):
KLM's would be the 777-200ER...Would expect that one after they converted their orders to the 777W.

Why not the 747?



Its all about supply and demand...
User currently offline727Tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

NW = DC-9

C'mon; someone had to say it.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9533 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6191 times:

Quoting 727Tiger (Reply 14):
NW = DC-9

C'mon; someone had to say it.

That's a  redflag ship.


User currently offlineKL565 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

Quoting MaartenV (Reply 13):
Why not the 747?

KLM is phasing out it's 747's..That is why they are gradually being phased out on some routes and being replaced by the 777-200ER. Further evidence can be found in that they converted their orders for the 777-300ER, to replace the 747's.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

Quoting KL565 (Reply 16):
KLM is phasing out it's 747's..That is why they are gradually being phased out on some routes and being replaced by the 777-200ER. Further evidence can be found in that they converted their orders for the 777-300ER, to replace the 747's.

Before Delta got their 777-200ERs and 767-400ERs, I do believe that Delta considered the L-1011 to be their flagship aircraft. I don't think Delta has ever considered the MD-11 to be their flagship.



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User currently offlineKL565 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
I don't think Delta has ever considered the MD-11 to be their flagship.

So what are you saying....?


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6060 times:

Quoting KL565 (Reply 18):
So what are you saying....?

Many have considered Delta's purchase of the MD-11 to be a huge mistake, due to the fact that the MD-11 did not meet promised performance. Delta then decided to go with the 777 instead.



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

As i started the thread on Flagship Routes I must have my  twocents , I disagree about UA, I think you will find they consider they 747 is their flagship, as does BA, LH etc.

User currently offlineKL565 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 19):
Many have considered Delta's purchase of the MD-11 to be a huge mistake, due to the fact that the MD-11 did not meet promised performance. Delta then decided to go with the 777 instead.

I will agree to that...What do you think is KLM's flagship aircraft.


User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

Quoting 727Tiger (Reply 14):
NW = DC-9

C'mon; someone had to say it.

On the same thought....

I'm guessing Southwest is the 737?  duck 
Frontier is the A319?  hyper 

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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

NW's is probably the 744, but the A330 can also compete, but it has no service at NW's home airport in MSP, so I'd say no. Domestically I'd say it's the 753, since it links to the largest markets for NW - intrahub, MKE, BOS, LAX, MCO, SEA.

For US it's definitely the A330.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4905 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

I would say KL and the MD11 go hand in hand.
I still think of UL and their tristars even though they are long gone.

YOWza



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25 KL565 : The last I checked the A330 flies MSP-AMS....
26 MaartenV : They have phased out their 742s and 743s. No 744 has left, they are even refurbishing them at this moment. Neither is there any evidence that the 773
27 Ual747 : While AA's largest plane is the 777-223ER, I think they determine "Flagship" by route length. I can't say for sure, but I think catering for AA puts "
28 MaartenV : While I agree with you on the fact that the 772 is Americans flagship, I have to disagree with your claim that the 772 is largest plane, at least not
29 Post contains images GVWOW : lol woops, I meant to write "newest"! . shame, shame.
30 UAL747 : The 777 is the largest plane in sheer weight, cargo/pax volume, and "possible" seating capacity. Besides, comparing the A300 to the 777 is like compar
31 Stylo777 : TK... Their good old A340's or their new A330's??? Or their countless B737-800's??? I would say its the new A330! For LH in my opinion its definitly t
32 Post contains images AirEMS : Ick! I would say the 777 in regular c/s IMHO the Peter Max AC is the flagship of a very long A.net post What about AF? 340, 747, 777 which one would
33 Post contains images MD90fan : This summer they are flying MSP-HNL IIRC. But KLM is making the MD-11 more and more of an holiday plane. Best Regards, MD90fan
34 SFO2SVO : Would it be IL-96 for SU?
35 ZK-NBT : For NZ i'd say it's still the 744 over the new 772ER's! ZK-NBT used to appear in alot of ads and on post cards.
36 Qantas744ER : Not really an airlinebut for the Dubai Air Wing they have 2 744`s plus 747 Sp`s BBJ`s etc Cheers Leo
37 BBJII : CargoLux is the 747F FR 738 U2 319
38 Jorge1812 : Don't want to go on another discussion about LH and PTV's but AFAIK the only two A-330's with PTV were leased and already left the fleet. Georg
39 Rmcf : For Iberia: A346 international A320 for short-medium haul What about Air France? I would say B773 or B747? bye! rmcf
40 Post contains images Jbguller : Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Virgin Blue's flagship is the 737... anyone disagree?
41 AF773 : Af? I'd say it has got to be the 777, both versions combined...
42 B4real : I disagree with that for DL. Int'l 763-ER is the flagship and the workhorse of the Int'l fleet, no question. Domestically, the CRJ (hah!, okay, I'm d
43 WestIndian425 : B6 - A320 JM - A340 BW - A340 (wish it were still the L15) TAM - A330 NK - A321? AC - 744? HA - 767 Air Tahiti Nui - A340 Kuwait - A340 LOT - 767 LAN
44 GBOAE : A few years ago and it would have been Concorde for both BA and AF Now a days i think it has to be the 744 for BA. cheers, GBOAE
45 1337Delta764 : I would say for WN the flagship is the 737-700.
46 Post contains links and images Dw747400 : Flagship doesn't get much more literal than this: View Large View Medium Photo © James Rowson [Edited 2006-06-10 18:17:49][Edited 2006-06-10 18:18:5
47 Rikkus67 : Neil... AC is, for now, the A340-500. The 3 747-400 were retired a couple years ago, and I do believe at least one might be part of the 787 support pr
48 Concorde001 : Correct! I love this BA video about Concorde as their flagship...enjoy! Great video, don't you think?
49 WestIndian425 : Thanks, Rik. I stand Corrected. I'll add one more: AeroMexico - 777. Neil
50 Post contains images Persotvik : KLM -MD11 AY - MD11 WO- MD11 LH Cargo - MD11 UPS - MD11 Fedex - MD11
51 Ha763 : Nope. Still shows DC-10 in the schedule.
52 Br343 : I would say for TP A340 I would say for RG B777 Regards
53 Nzrich : Totally agree with you that the 744 is classed as the flagship but if you go on the a/c that make the biggest amount of money propotionately for its
54 Post contains images EWRCabincrew : I said this in the other thread concerning flagship flights. It seems nowadays, the term "flagship" is a misnomer. I always thought that "flagship" me
55 Klyk1980 : For Air Canada, I am very sure A340-500 is their flagship. Currently with 2 metals exclusively run between HKG and YYZ non stop year-round. A340-500 i
56 Post contains links and images FlySSC : Even if she's not flying anymore, In the heart of people, Concorde will remain AF's (and probably BA's too) flagship and symbol and for ever. View La
57 StarGuy : That's actually very true. The large scale Concorde model is still at Heathrow dressed in BA clothes. I think that they should be proud to have flown
58 Post contains links and images FlySSC : And this one is posing just a few hundred meters away from the main entrance of AF's Headquarters at CDG ... View Large View MediumPhoto © Petr
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