Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11996 posts, RR: 36 Posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4225 times:
SIA will be introducing its first 777-300ER in September (9V-SWA) and I was just wondering if there was any word yet on what routes they might be operating.
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1258 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4207 times:
Dont know about the configuration, but I know for sure that the first route will be SIN-CDG-SIN and later on MAN and ZRH
BTW the new sky suites will be introduced together when the A380 gets delivered
I would HIGHLY doubt that SQ would downgrade SIN-FRA by around 100 seats, as these planes always seem to be full, on top of that, FRA has a massive slot problem. Yields on this route are also high!
I thought SQ would eventually send the A380s to FRA, SQ 325/326 not SQ25/26 which continues on to JFK.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11996 posts, RR: 36 Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
Intothinair, the total number of seats isn't really the driving factor. Rather, it is the revenue generating power of the aircraft, combined with fuel economy. If the 77W has a greater proportion of J class seats and is more economical than the 744 (which, of course, it will be), I doubt that SQ will have any hesitation in putting the aircraft on current 744 routes.
SingaporeBoy From Singapore, joined May 2005, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3618 times:
CDG Paris will be the first destination to get the 777-300ER.SIA`s monthly in house magazine Outlook this month has an article about Paris station being the first.Followed by ZRH/MAN,AKL and possibly TPE/LAX.
PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3522 times:
Quoting Intothinair (Reply 4): I would HIGHLY doubt that SQ would downgrade SIN-FRA by around 100 seats, as these planes always seem to be full, on top of that, FRA has a massive slot problem. Yields on this route are also high!
I thought SQ would eventually send the A380s to FRA, SQ 325/326 not SQ25/26 which continues on to JFK.
We'll see... why not the 773ER and the 380? Time will tell.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3389 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 6): Intothinair, the total number of seats isn't really the driving factor. Rather, it is the revenue generating power of the aircraft, combined with fuel economy. If the 77W has a greater proportion of J class seats and is more economical than the 744 (which, of course, it will be), I doubt that SQ will have any hesitation in putting the aircraft on current 744 routes.
Yup, sure, do not dissagree with you on the information you provided, the 773ER sure wouldn't be a bad aircraft to put on the SIN-FRA route, as in the premium cabins, equal or near to equal amounts of seats will be provided in the 773ER, HOWEVER, there are routes on which the 773ER could be utilised better where demand for Y class is not as high. Y class to FRA is always or near to always completely full in the 747-400s with yields being high enough, having 80 seats or so less wouldn't profit this route, however to other destinations with less Y class demand, this could be used to raise yields such as to ZRH or CDG therefore I think the 773ER can be better utilised on other routes.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3378 times:
One more question, when will the first 773ERs be put into service?
First we all heard September, then came the A380 delay, then i heard the 773ERs will be delayed to being delivered the same time as the A380, December, and now i'm hearing they will be put into service in September with the old(Spacebed, Skysuite) seats found on the current long haul fleet until the A380s arrive in December? seems kind of unlogical to me to put old seats onto a brand new plane just to make the marketing hype higher to have the A380 launched with the new seats!!??
Or will the 773ERs be delayed till December 2006, having 6 delivered in 1 month, thus at the same time as the A380 also with the brand new seats??
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 5): First route is SIN-ZRH-MAN followed by SIN-AKL before christmas
Does that mean MAN will only see the 773 on two days?
At the moment SQ fly MAN-SIN direct 5 days a week with a 772, and MAN-ZRH-SIN 2 days a week with a 744. Is that not a reduction in capacity?
Also, according to one of the "Manchester News" threads on here, MAN-SIN was supposed to be upgraded to direct daily using 772/773 from this winter?
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Quoting Intothinair (Reply 12): One more question, when will the first 773ERs be put into service?
First we all heard September, then came the A380 delay, then i heard the 773ERs will be delayed to being delivered the same time as the A380, December, and now i'm hearing they will be put into service in September with the old(Spacebed, Skysuite) seats found on the current long haul fleet until the A380s arrive in December? seems kind of unlogical to me to put old seats onto a brand new plane just to make the marketing hype higher to have the A380 launched with the new seats!!??
Or will the 773ERs be delayed till December 2006, having 6 delivered in 1 month, thus at the same time as the A380 also with the brand new seats??
I was thinking the same thing, maybe someone could clarify this..
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2130 times:
Quoting 9V-SVA (Reply 18): Tom, not quite yet. The B773ER does not have the range to do SIN-LAX/EWR non-stop, unless with very big weight penalties..
but the 777-200LR does..with better payload too....now we need SQ to get some of those birds..
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1586 times:
Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16): Many times I've been on SQ 325/326, they have been sold out in F/C and half full in Y.
i've been on SQ 26/SQ25 and SQ 326 also numerous times, so far i've always had loadfactors of 80%-100% in Y class, and the premium cabins as you mentioned almost always completely sold out!
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1543 times:
I fly SQ25/26/325/326 often and I don't think I've ever seen a free C seat between SIN and FRA. Loads are high in all three cabins. On the other hand, between FRA and JFK, loads are always lighter with C typically about 50 to 80% full.
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