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SIA 777-300ER - Plans?  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4816 times:

SIA will be introducing its first 777-300ER in September (9V-SWA) and I was just wondering if there was any word yet on what routes they might be operating.

Have they announced a configuration for it yet?

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User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1296 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Dont know about the configuration, but I know for sure that the first route will be SIN-CDG-SIN and later on MAN and ZRH


BTW the new sky suites will be introduced together when the A380 gets delivered

Cheers Leo



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

My information suggests:

1) Melbourne, Australia / SQ MEL
2) Manchester, United Kingdom / SQ MAN
3) ZRH / CDG and a transpacific route.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Have heard CDG will get the 773ER, possibly the SIN-FRA-JFK, MAN as well and perhaps ZHR and finally AMS. Good loads there

User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4478 times:

Heard they will be 278 seats in a 3 class configuration, can anyone confirm that.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 3):
possibly the SIN-FRA-JFK

I would HIGHLY doubt that SQ would downgrade SIN-FRA by around 100 seats, as these planes always seem to be full, on top of that, FRA has a massive slot problem. Yields on this route are also high!
I thought SQ would eventually send the A380s to FRA, SQ 325/326 not SQ25/26 which continues on to JFK.

cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4351 times:

First route is SIN-ZRH-MAN followed by SIN-AKL before christmas.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4329 times:

Intothinair, the total number of seats isn't really the driving factor. Rather, it is the revenue generating power of the aircraft, combined with fuel economy. If the 77W has a greater proportion of J class seats and is more economical than the 744 (which, of course, it will be), I doubt that SQ will have any hesitation in putting the aircraft on current 744 routes.

User currently offlineSingaporeBoy From Singapore, joined May 2005, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

CDG Paris will be the first destination to get the 777-300ER.SIA`s monthly in house magazine Outlook this month has an article about Paris station being the first.Followed by ZRH/MAN,AKL and possibly TPE/LAX.

User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
1) Melbourne, Australia / SQ MEL

No. MEL will become a 380 route for SQ.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4113 times:

Quoting Intothinair (Reply 4):
I would HIGHLY doubt that SQ would downgrade SIN-FRA by around 100 seats, as these planes always seem to be full, on top of that, FRA has a massive slot problem. Yields on this route are also high!
I thought SQ would eventually send the A380s to FRA, SQ 325/326 not SQ25/26 which continues on to JFK.

We'll see... why not the 773ER and the 380? Time will tell.


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 3):
finally AMS

That would be great, IIRC the first scheduled 77w service to AMS. Great news for spotters!



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User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 6):
Intothinair, the total number of seats isn't really the driving factor. Rather, it is the revenue generating power of the aircraft, combined with fuel economy. If the 77W has a greater proportion of J class seats and is more economical than the 744 (which, of course, it will be), I doubt that SQ will have any hesitation in putting the aircraft on current 744 routes.

Yup, sure, do not dissagree with you on the information you provided, the 773ER sure wouldn't be a bad aircraft to put on the SIN-FRA route, as in the premium cabins, equal or near to equal amounts of seats will be provided in the 773ER, HOWEVER, there are routes on which the 773ER could be utilised better where demand for Y class is not as high. Y class to FRA is always or near to always completely full in the 747-400s with yields being high enough, having 80 seats or so less wouldn't profit this route, however to other destinations with less Y class demand, this could be used to raise yields such as to ZRH or CDG therefore I think the 773ER can be better utilised on other routes.

cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3969 times:

One more question, when will the first 773ERs be put into service?
First we all heard September, then came the A380 delay, then i heard the 773ERs will be delayed to being delivered the same time as the A380, December, and now i'm hearing they will be put into service in September with the old(Spacebed, Skysuite) seats found on the current long haul fleet until the A380s arrive in December? seems kind of unlogical to me to put old seats onto a brand new plane just to make the marketing hype higher to have the A380 launched with the new seats!!??
Or will the 773ERs be delayed till December 2006, having 6 delivered in 1 month, thus at the same time as the A380 also with the brand new seats??

cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Hangon I just saw an SQ pilot let me go ask him.

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 5):
First route is SIN-ZRH-MAN followed by SIN-AKL before christmas

Does that mean MAN will only see the 773 on two days?
At the moment SQ fly MAN-SIN direct 5 days a week with a 772, and MAN-ZRH-SIN 2 days a week with a 744. Is that not a reduction in capacity?

Also, according to one of the "Manchester News" threads on here, MAN-SIN was supposed to be upgraded to direct daily using 772/773 from this winter?


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Quoting Intothinair (Reply 12):
One more question, when will the first 773ERs be put into service?
First we all heard September, then came the A380 delay, then i heard the 773ERs will be delayed to being delivered the same time as the A380, December, and now i'm hearing they will be put into service in September with the old(Spacebed, Skysuite) seats found on the current long haul fleet until the A380s arrive in December? seems kind of unlogical to me to put old seats onto a brand new plane just to make the marketing hype higher to have the A380 launched with the new seats!!??
Or will the 773ERs be delayed till December 2006, having 6 delivered in 1 month, thus at the same time as the A380 also with the brand new seats??

I was thinking the same thing, maybe someone could clarify this..



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting Intothinair (Reply 11):
Y class to FRA is always or near to always completely full in the 747-400s

Many times I've been on SQ 325/326, they have been sold out in F/C and half full in Y.



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User currently offlineTom12 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
SIA will be introducing its first 777-300ER in September

Tis might sounds like a silly question but does this mean they will phase ouit the 345's??

Thanks, Tom



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User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Quoting Tom12 (Reply 17):
Tis might sounds like a silly question but does this mean they will phase ouit the 345's??

Tom, not quite yet. The B773ER does not have the range to do SIN-LAX/EWR non-stop, unless with very big weight penalties..



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

Quoting 9V-SVA (Reply 18):
Tom, not quite yet. The B773ER does not have the range to do SIN-LAX/EWR non-stop, unless with very big weight penalties..

but the 777-200LR does..with better payload too....now we need SQ to get some of those birds.. pray 



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User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
Many times I've been on SQ 325/326, they have been sold out in F/C and half full in Y.

i've been on SQ 26/SQ25 and SQ 326 also numerous times, so far i've always had loadfactors of 80%-100% in Y class, and the premium cabins as you mentioned almost always completely sold out!

cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

I fly SQ25/26/325/326 often and I don't think I've ever seen a free C seat between SIN and FRA. Loads are high in all three cabins. On the other hand, between FRA and JFK, loads are always lighter with C typically about 50 to 80% full.

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