JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7249 times:
Hard to imagine that being possible, these days, given the number of people in all areas of the airline directly involved in delivering the flight. RevMan, Reservations, Engineering, Flight Ops, Crew Base, Catering, Ramp, Check-in controllers, staff rostering, gate staff. You can imagine one or other of these groups maybe letting a flight slip off the radar, but not all of them.
EWRCabincrew From Canada, joined May 2006, 5347 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7232 times:
I am unsure about that, never heard of it happening. On the same note, I have been part of a crew where more than the normal compliment were scheduled for the same flight.
Once in 20 years. Not bad.
Of the flight attendants there, two of us got to go home (I was one of the lucky ones to go home) and get paid for the trip.
RedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 1977 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7124 times:
Two years ago, I was on an SK ARN-CDG flight where they literally forgot to schedule a cockpit crew. They realized their mistake less than an hour before departure, so naturally the flight was delayed. When we were finally ready to leave, the captain told us: "Ladies and gentlemen, one hour ago I was relaxing in my home when SAS called me and asked me to come and fly to Paris..."
Amberair732 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7002 times:
This has happened to me ! I was flying PMI-MAN with Amberair in August 1988( the short lived airline from which I get my username ). We had a thirteen hour delay which was explained to us as being due to a 'technical fault' Back then you were allowed to visit the cockpit on request and the captain admitted to my father and I that they had been scheduled ( and had flown )MAN-MXP which should have been the flight after MAN-PMI-MAN. Doh !
Cwldude From United Kingdom (Wales), joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6402 times:
LOL funny you should say Air Wales, cause the same happened in CWL not so long ago!
My mates were flying with BY on CWL-LPA, and they got to the airport and told they'd be delayed an hour due to "operational problems", so I just told them not to worry, a crew member has called in sick or something!
Anyway... the plane landed, and offloaded, two hours went by and they were still stuck, they were then told that they wouldn't be going for another 12 hours due to a "technical malfunction"... the following morning, the CWL-REU flight which is what the aircraft operated after the LPA lands, went on-time! They were obviously furious by that point!
In the end they flew out 23 hours late, on two Irish A320's, and found out that Britannia didnt actually book a crew or any pilots for their flight, and it had been totally forgotten about!!!
Needless to say they won't be flying with them again.... I found it to be quite a funny story though!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Diesel1 From United Kingdom (Wales), joined Mar 2001, 1566 posts, RR: 16 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6326 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 6): In the end they flew out 23 hours late, on two Irish A320's, and found out that Britannia didnt actually book a crew or any pilots for their flight, and it had been totally forgotten about!!!
Flymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6055 times:
Hi guys & ladies
Just registered and logged on for the first time. I'm not a pilot or have anything to do with aviation - just nuts about flying and everything connected to it.
To respond to Gilesdavies - it happened to me a few years ago with SAA. Flew Cape Town/Johannesburg. Checked in at Cape Town for departure at about 16h00, if I remember correctly, and about 30 mins before departure came an announcement that the flight had been delayed "due to operational problems". SAA handed out meal and drinks vouchers and then came the announcement that our flight would only depart at 21h00. While waiting in the departure lounge I overheard 2 ground attendants talking and they were saying that no aircraft had been rostered for the flight and that the airline was having to send an aircraft from Johannesburg to operate the flight. I admit that it was overheard and could just have been speculation on there part! A/c eventually arrived and to the pilots credit (or the airline - not sure which one) we completed what was normally a 1hr55 flight in 1h20.
I'll try finding a news article or something now! but yer... my friends were on it and they were keeping me informed, they got put up in the Holiday Inn overnight so it wasn't really that long ago either - octoberish??
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AirAmericaC46 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5320 times:
Hello Amberair732:
Great to hear info about a short-lived airline-----can you tell me all the routes that the airline had flown?-----I presume the only aircraft fleet is a 737-200?? Thanks for the info.
Diesel1 From United Kingdom (Wales), joined Mar 2001, 1566 posts, RR: 16 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4614 times:
Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Reply 11): can you tell me all the routes that the airline had flown?
They were a successor to Airways International Cymru which failed in Feb88.
One of the 737s, G BOSA was ex G BAZI of Airways Intl Cymru.
Flights were to the typical sun destinations... though based at CWL most flights were flown from MAN, and a few from BOH too.
Airline Timetables UK 1989 shows destinations served including
From MAN to IST / AGP / JSI / GRO / JMK / DLM / PMI / ATH / VRN / TFS / ZTH / LPA / PVK
From CWL to AGP / PMI / IBZ
From BOH to CFU
To clarify a point made above, at the end of the Summer88 season they were purchased by Paramount AW, rather than folding.
One 737 (G BKMS) went on lease to Dragonair of Hong Kong during the winter of 88/89, then flying for Paramount during Summer89.
G BOSA remained with Paramount through the winter of 88/89 before being returned to its owners.
They originally wanted to be Diamond Airways or something similar - however British Midland objected as they had 'diamond' service on their scheduled flights.
JER757 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 239 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3584 times:
I dont know of an airline completely 'forgetting' about a flight, but I have known occasions where an aircraft hasn't been available to operate the rotations, but these more or less get sorted fairly quickly.
There was an occasion once when Air Southwest forgot to tell us (their handling agents) that a flight was operating; it was the beginning of the summer season. It led to a few confused check in agents and a few hasty calls to their ops before we realised what was happening!
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 12047 posts, RR: 22 Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3406 times:
During the mid 90s, one unnamed (but you can figure it as the story goes on) US carrier forgot to schedule a cockpit crew for a LAX-HNL DC-10 trip either on Thanksgiving or Christmas day. What should have been an 8am departure did not depart till around 3pm awaiting the closest replacement crew to commercial in from Dallas. It turns out the flight was a planned holiday extra section that never made the monthly crew bid for assignment.
Another time, the same airline had a DC-10 cockpit crew show up for a flight that had been swapped to a B727 sometime between the bid lines going out and the flight operating. Not only was there a crew issue, however the flight was severely overbooked as it had been sold to be a DC-10 again during a holiday period.
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Hey, what a coincidence! I just saw this aircraft yesterday late afternoon here at MIA without titles. I thought it was a VIP aircraft, but then noticed it parked at the terminal. Most likely Aviacsa is the new owner/operator.
Amberair732 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 612 times:
Thanks for the info diesel1. I flew with Amberair on 3 occasions - all badly delayed! To add to your list of destinations, they also flew once a week to MXP on behalf of enterprise holidays ( now absorbed into the first choice group )
I remember an FA explaining the diamond logo which, as you correctly said, was to be the companies name, before objections from other airlines forced the hasty change to Amberair.
They used to serve biscuits onboard with the company logo scorched into them! just like Dan-air circa 1987. Ah I could reminisce all night long ............
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