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User currently offlineBigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8443 times:

Ok so I talked to an AA mechanic the other night who said that the A380 was planning a stop at DFW on its tour of the US late this year. I know it's not an extremely reliable source like "the news" or anything, but I was wondering if some of our friends across the pond might have any new information on the A380's scheduled tour of the US. Anything would be appreciated

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Jimbo


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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8315 times:

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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8257 times:
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Where and when are these stops supposed to take place


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8201 times:

Airbus is planning a tour of the US? Would be great to see, but not something that had even been remotely announced to the public as of late.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

What kind of tour is it going to be? Or are we talking about DFW as a destination for route proving?

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8003 times:

Since no US airline has expressed an intrest in buying one I doubt highly it wll be in the US on tour. Besides, they already did a 'world tour' last year.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7867 times:
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Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
Since no US airline has expressed an intrest in buying one I doubt highly it wll be in the US on tour. Besides, they already did a 'world tour' last year.

How can you do a world tour without stopping at all the countries that you new aircraft will even serve. US airlines maynot be supporting the plane but US airports are putting millions of dollars of upgrades into thier taxiways, the least they colusd get for thier hard work is a visit.



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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

Airbus is about to start the so-called "early long lights" (ELF) with MSN 002, F-WXXL.
Some of these long flight tests may bring the A380 to US airports that non-US customers intend to serve.
Before getting exited, understand that this is a speculation on my side.


User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11362 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7761 times:

Does DFW even see 747s? It would definitely be interesting to see the 380 in the US, but considering that no one in North America is interested in the 380 besides FedEx (which has already signed on), I have to say I'm a skeptic.


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User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7748 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
Does DFW even see 747s?

Yes, KE flys a 747 or 777 to DFW depending on the time of year. Plus, we see a decent amount of 747 cargo service.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
but considering that no one in North America is interested in the 380 besides FedEx (which has already signed on)

UPS also has 10 on the books. But nevertheless, I still don't see Airbus sending a whalejet to Louisville just to impress a few packages...



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
Does DFW even see 747s?

Passenger? no (except an aircraft sub)

We get a good amount of cargo 747s. Korean, Cathay, Singapore, China Air, Soon to be Air China, Lufthansa (switched with an MD-11), UPS, Atlas, Eva. I think we get more-it's just slipped my mind. Of course we get the random Southern Air and CargoLux


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User currently offlineVasanthD From India, joined May 2005, 450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6678 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 11):

Air France recently started Cargo service to DFW with its 747. Also expected to start passenger service.

If the A380 comes to DFW, I wish it passes by founders plaza  Smile which is of course not gonna happen. Might probably land at 18/36 and head straight to Terminal D.

--Vas



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User currently offlineWorldjet777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

It would be brilliant to see the 380 at DFW, but I'm a skeptic. The facts don't line up, and AA is just too boring of an airline to ever buy an exotic like the 380

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Reply 9):
KE flys a 747 or 777 to DFW depending on the time of year

To my knowledge, KE only puts a passenger 777 to DFW. LF and JL both used to put 747's into DFW back in the day...

Cheers,
wj777



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User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5550 times:

Straying from the original thread, but would PHL be likely to see the A380 with the UPS hub here?


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User currently offlineBigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5511 times:

Well

Quoting Worldjet777 (Reply 13):
To my knowledge, KE only puts a passenger 777 to DFW. LF and JL both used to put 747's into DFW back in the day...

KL does use a 777 but last summer it changed to a 744 just for the summer, but no such luck this year. UPS operates a 747 almost daily at DFW along with an MD-11. Not to mention that they are expanding their operations at the DFW hub... It's a process. There are also rumors of a new cargo facility on the east side north of taxiway EL mirroring the new cargo additions on the west side. With the big focus now-a-days on International cargo... it's a possibility.

As for the A380, it will go either to the new TD or one of the west cargo facilities. just to show that it fits.



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 6):
How can you do a world tour without stopping at all the countries that you new aircraft will even serve.

It's a World 'Sales' Tour. They stop at the headquaters of airlines that are interested in buying the aircraft.... not just because it's due to serve a certain airport. All the information needed to deal with the aircraft can be done so through the aircraft Airport Operations Manual



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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 10):
UPS also has 10 on the books. But nevertheless, I still don't see Airbus sending a whalejet to Louisville just to impress a few packages...

They'd fly it in for operational testing. Don't be surprised to see it Memphis, Louisville, JFK, LAX and SFO.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5207 times:

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 17):
They'd fly it in for operational testing.

There is no real need to. Everything operations needs to know about the plane can be learned from the A380's Airport Operations Manual. If you've ever read one it tells you EVERYTHING about the plane any ground personel need to know. Just to fly the plane half way around the world so rampies can open and close the cargo doors and dump the lav is costly and stuiped.



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User currently offlineJfr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

This is for a possible QF SYD-DFW link. Excellent tie-ins to the AA/oneworld network would mean good loads on SYD/MEL - ORD/JFK.

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2352 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4858 times:

Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 15):
KL does use a 777 but last summer it changed to a 744 just for the summer,

I remember last July about mid month when I was coming from Las Vegas to DFW on an AA MD 80 when we taxied past the new D terminal (It just opened the week before.) all the gates were empty except one gate which had a KE 744 parked at it. I'll be heading through DFW again on 30 June on the AA71 flight from FRA. I can't wait!!! Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin



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User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1246 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Our airport here at DFW was named the best cargo airport in the world, making it to me at least a candidate for service. DFW will in fact be A380 ready with the newly built international D terminal. Also with airlines like lufthansa, and potentially singapore, and quantas providing service, it seems possible DFW may see A380 service.

[Edited 2006-06-12 00:40:26]


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3958 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 12):
Also expected to start passenger service.

Really, when?

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 21):
and quantas providing service

What carrier is this  duck  ?

Thomas



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Ideally I'd love to see the A380 with passenger service at DFW... Think a fully loaded A380 taking off on 17R when it's 102*F at 1pm in the summer (full length runway take off) but I sincerely doubt it will happen. I don't know if there is a route strong enough to support such a large plane.

I think we should just keep our fingers crossed for the cargo A380's.



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User currently offlineSuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 16):
It's a World 'Sales' Tour. They stop at the headquaters of airlines that are interested in buying the aircraft...

As far as I understand, DFW is the headquarters of AA....is AA interested in buying the A380? Er...is AA actually interested in any Airbus aircrafts?

Or am I missing something?


25 Legend500 : DFW will get an A380 stop during the US tour (heard the same rumor) but it will be for cargo operations tests at the new Trammell Crow Int'l Cargo Cen
26 Jacobin777 : or possibly the 747-8I.....maybe even 747-400..but I'm not too sure on that..
27 AirEMS : Anyone know of other stops?? DEN I hope!! -Carl
28 ChrisNH : Then why did they feel the need to bring it to Heathrow a few weeks ago? It was for exactly the things that this 'manual' should have covered, no?
29 BigJimFX : That would be the new international phase 3 cargo are where Cathay and China Southern (Dynasty) load up. According to the mechanic I talked to. Every
30 Gemuser : Don't bet on it! Qantas will NOT buy the B772LR UNLESS it makes sence on SYD/MEL-LHR. They will NOT buy it just for DFW. On the other they MAY buy th
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