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GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL  
User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7264 times:

Just saw chopper footage from Tampa, FL of a small plane crash on the news. The aircraft was completely destroyed and apparently started a fire too. There was a ton of foam on the ground and some sort of building was still smoldering from the fire...

http://tboblogs.com/index.php/newswire/comments/plane_crash/

Your CptSpeaking


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User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

Watching the news now. The helo just zoomed out and the crash is like 50 feet or less from the runway. It ran into a house.

[Edited 2006-06-12 19:22:59]

User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

They're now saying on Fox News that it was an emergency landing of a King Air that took off from Sarasota. The a/c is less than 50 feet from the end of the runway and ironically, only 5 houses away from the local fire department. Pilot was killed but witnesses say the copilot climbed out...not sure where he went or his injuries.

Your CptSpeaking



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1979 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7089 times:

Registration quoted as N7043G, a Beech U-21A (Queen Air with turboprops)owned by Dynamic Avlease, Inc., which is based out of Virginia.

RIP to those who passed away
JSD



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User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7088 times:

Have you seen the radar in Tampa, what the heck was it doing out there in that soup!

User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7032 times:

Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
Have you seen the radar in Tampa, what the heck was it doing out there in that soup!

Not sure, but the local news helicopter was up in it covering the crash, so it couldn't be too bad...plus, radar doesn't show how bad visibility and ceilings are, just where the precipitation is.

Your CptSpeaking



...and don't call me Shirley!!
User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Living only a short stretch from there (on Bayshore Blvd), NO ONE should have been flying a GA aircraft today and for most of the week also. Apparently the plane could never touch down properly and when it did, lost control to hit the house, with luckily on one person inside (everyone else was out). I hope this storm passes fast.


Looking forward to the new AA
User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
Registration quoted as N7043G, a Beech U-21A (Queen Air with turboprops)owned by Dynamic Avlease, Inc., which is based out of Virginia.

A U-21A, or in this case a Beech 65-A90-1 is not a Queen Air. A Queen Air (or a Beech model 65-88) is piston powered, the 90 series Beech are all PT-6 (turboprop) powered. One exception is the B-100 series which was powered by Garrett turboprops due to a strike / labor issue at Pratt & Whitney.

Drew  wave 



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User currently offlineFfis34 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

i think they were just plain insane to go outside flying today, I was afraid to drive , i couldnt imagine what my instructer would have said if i wanted to fly, I was shopping for a new digital camera when it happened and i heard it on BEST BUY's TV and i just looked at the sales associate and said dumbass...at the point ground winds were gusting up to 25mph


brad



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User currently offlineAltairf28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6590 times:

According to the paper this morning it was a Mediterranean fruit fly eradication flight (they apparently drop sterile fruit flies to try to control the population, especially near seaports and airports). So at least it wasn't an amateur out on a joyride. Also the plane was trying to make an emergency landing at Peter O. Knight-it wasn't the final destination.


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User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 8):
at the point ground winds were gusting up to 25mph

Do you mean they were gusting 25 mph (on top of whatever the sustained winds were...) or the winds were from, say, 18mph gusting to 25mph?

FYI, the demonstrated crosswind component of a Cessna 172, much smaller than a King Air 100, is 17 kts (~20mph, and that is exactly that, demonstrated. In reality, the plane will handle a bit more, possibly with a crabbed landing.)...I've personally landed airplanes several times in winds that were at least 20kts gusting to 30.

As previously said, the winds weren't the cause of the crash, but rather the emergency that made him land where he didn't want to.

I've heard conflicting things about the landing...did he skid off the end or not make the approach end of the runway?

Your CptSpeaking  wave 



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User currently offlineKevin82277 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Quoting CptSpeaking (Reply 10):
FYI, the demonstrated crosswind component of a Cessna 172, much smaller than a King Air 100, is 17 kts (~20mph, and that is exactly that, demonstrated. In reality, the plane will handle a bit more, possibly with a crabbed landing.)...I've personally landed airplanes several times in winds that were at least 20kts gusting to 30.

Unless the wind was 90 degrees from the runway, Gusting to 25kts is nothing for a King Air handle. As you said, weather was only a contributing factor, obviously if he never lost that engine, we wouldn't be talking about this.


User currently offlineFfis34 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6412 times:

gusting 25mph over what the sustained winds of 15mph


Chris, since we are in jail I need to say something to you. Dont drop the soap
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6412 times:

RIP to those who died. The King Air is a safe plane. It doesnt happen very often.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineKevin82277 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6340 times:

Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 12):
gusting 25mph over what the sustained winds of 15mph

It is Gusting to that speed, not over that speed. So the winds would be 15mph gusting up to 25mph. Not 40mph


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6306 times:

This will probably get the Davis Islanders up in arms to close Peter O. Knight Airport. Davis Island is a pretty swanky district in Tampa - the residents are all pretty wealthy and politically active.

Why the ATCs did not try to vector this plane to McDill AFB (just a few air miles across the bay) is beyond me. I would have preferred to have a 10,000 foot McDill runway to land on than trying to put down on POK's tiny, 3,000 foot runway in gusty winds and rain.


User currently offlineMontanaFL From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6200 times:

I am no pilot, but trying to fly much less land a small during a tropical storm (That is what you saw on the radar) cant be that smart. SRQ is maybe an hours drive, more/less. What,you couldnt rent a car and drive up?

I do feel for the family of both the pilot and pax, but want to know what he was thinking flying in that kind of weather. What about the family that lost their home and pets? I leave in the Tampa Bay area and the weather yesterday all over was nasty. This wasnt just a regular summer Florida shower.



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User currently offlineKevin82277 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6135 times:

The weather wasn't bad enough that you couldn't fly. It wouldn't be the most smoothest flight, but the winds were not strong enough that it wasn't possible. It was just bad luck that the engine had to fail during this weather, and the airport they chose to land at wasn't very long.

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