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Eads Stock Plunges On A380 News!  
User currently offlineDhefty From United States of America, joined May 2005, 599 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 10064 times:

EADS stock, selling for 35 Euros earlier this year, has now plunged to 20 Euros, after announcing further delays in A380 deliveries.

EADS has now lost 40% of its market capitalization this year!

What will this mean for the BAE buyout and EADS ability to raise funds for the A350/370?

Are there possible A380 cancellations in the works?

Will heads roll in Toulouse?

Stay tuned.

[Edited 2006-06-14 10:12:37]

[Edited 2006-06-14 10:13:49]

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User currently offlineN1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 559 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10031 times:

Pass the popcorn!

- n1786b


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9921 times:

http://www.boursorama.com/cours.phtml?symbole=1rPEAD

EADS have lost 27% this morning...



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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

Down to E17.14 now, on volume of 35M. shares.

That means the price has dropped by over E10.00 today - to less thatn half their value in March (over E35.00). And 35M. shares is about 5% of the whole company, sold off in a few hours.

I'm afraid that it looks like 'The End'. If this goes on for another hour or two I would expect trading in the shares to be suspended.



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9832 times:

Stock markets all over the world are falling. Look at Boeing's shares; they are well off their highs. Jim Cramer (a U.S. stock celeb) has written a column about how stocks have become "commoditized". Here is the link for your reading pleasure:
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/pom/...cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA



"When all is said and done, more will be said than done".
User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9774 times:

Quoting Dhefty (Thread starter):
EADS has now lost 40% of its market capitalization this year!

About 45% at 1138 CET. EADS capitalisation ca 14 Billion euros.


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9761 times:

BAE Systems: Value Of Airbus Stake Not Hit By A380 Delay

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
June 14, 2006 6:10 a.m.

(Fair Use Exerpt)

LONDON (Dow Jones)--BAE Systems PLC said Wednesday that Airbus's delay of its A380 jumbo jet wouldn't hit the price it gets from the planned sale of its 20% stake in the business.

"We don't believe it will have any effect on the valuation of our stake because it has to be based on the medium- to long-term prospects of the overall Airbus business. The long-term prospects don't change because of the delay," said a spokeswoman for BAE Systems...

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20060614-703370.html


User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9761 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 4):
Stock markets all over the world are falling.

True, but EADS has fallen 20%+ today while the CAC40 has fallen <0.1%.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25140 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9751 times:
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Quoting NAV20 (Reply 3):
I'm afraid that it looks like 'The End'.

Oh, for pity's sake, stock markets around the world have been tumbling the last two months.

Like the Dow Jones:

http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom...805A6-2593-483E-AA4E-342E78656840}

"...the Dow will be at a 50% retracement of the entire October 2004-May 2006 upmove."

The DJIA is now negative for the year 2006. And Dow Jones has very little to do with EADS. Or the A380.

mariner

[Edited 2006-06-14 12:54:57]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9721 times:

Quoting N1786b (Reply 1):
Pass the popcorn!

That's about all I'm willing to say at this point. Airbus is more than capable of working the magic needed to turn things around, but their problems with the A350/A380 could very well end up being disastrous. Nothing at this point in time is predictable.



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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9704 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 6):
BAE Systems PLC said Wednesday that Airbus's delay of its A380 jumbo jet wouldn't hit the price it gets from the planned sale of its 20% stake in the business.

But it makes it more difficult for EADS to find a way to pay...


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9649 times:

So if I bought 5000 of them now at E 18.01?

http://www.euronext.com/trader/summa...rument=18283&isinCode=NL0000235190


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9490 times:

You'd be a brave man, Keesje!  Smile

They're holding above E18.00 for the moment. Remains to be seen whether that's the start of a recovery or a 'dead cat bounce'.

As I suspected, trading WAS suspended a couple of times:-

"European Aeronautic Defense & Space Co.'s shares fell 33 percent to 17 euros ($21.31) by late morning. Market operator Euronext briefly suspended trading in the shares twice in the first hour after they fell beyond the limit allowed.

The selloff came after Emirates Airlines said Wednesday that it is reconsidering its order of the double-decker A380, the world's largest passenger aircraft exacerbating an already delicate situation for EADS and its largest subsidiary.

"We have been informed by Airbus that the delivery of our A380 aircraft will be delayed by six months. Emirates now expects to receive its first A380 aircraft in October 2007, to be put into operation in January 2008. We are considering our position and will be engaging with the manufacturer over the next few weeks," said a statement from the airline, which has 45 A380 on order.

"Singapore Airlines and Qantas Airways, which also have large A380 orders, said they are seeking talks with Airbus and want compensation. Airbus' chief commercial officer, John Leahy, confirmed that the Toulouse, France-based company will incur more late delivery penalties, but declined to provide a figure. It could in theory also face order cancellations after announcing delivery delays of up to seven months, problems it blamed on production bottlenecks."


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2074516&business=true



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9468 times:

So they are now 18.76

So if I sold now: 18.76-18.01=0.75*5000= $3750

I could have bought me a ticket business class to SEA for that ..

Stocks..


User currently offlineTerryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9404 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 13):
So they are now 18.76

So if I sold now: 18.76-18.01=0.75*5000= $3750

I could have bought me a ticket business class to SEA for that ..

Sorry Keesje, you could never get past the Boeing police at SEA,  Big grin

Don't forget the broker commission and tax on profit would eat up a good piece of your 3750.  Smile


User currently offlineFlyingDoctorWu From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9404 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 13):
So they are now 18.76

I am going to put in an order to buy now. I think long term (ie when I am ready to retire in 30 years) that Airbus will ride out this whole fiasco (similar to Boeing's manufacturing fiasco in the 90s) and have a solid return on investment.


User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9372 times:

Quoting N1786b (Reply 1):
Pass the popcorn!

 Big grin Big grin Big grin


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9325 times:
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So, you guys are a lot more knowledgeable than myself with regard to Airbus, EADS, and market conditions. In your opinion, how much (if any) of this stock drop can be attributed to the recent SIA order of 20 787s?




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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9315 times:

The shares will go up soon once the "shock" about the announcement is over.
Stock-exchanges are extremely emotional places -worse than market-chats between old women- and bargain hunters must have bought tons of EADS shares at a deflated price.
You wonder how educated (trading-floor and banking )managers can yield to such a sudden panic ,tied to a certainly negative but not deadly announcement.
What are the options ?
Let go Airbus down the drain and establish a Boeing monopoly....??
Let's be serious -some investors are making millions today !!!!



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User currently offlineKoper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9301 times:

I don't think it's a problem.. even if Airbus failes.. in Europe it's always the 'state' behind.. so the citizen will pay for this..

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9266 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 17):
In your opinion, how much (if any) of this stock drop can be attributed to the recent SIA order of 20 787s?

I think it has more to do with the A380 delay. The stock dropped before the SQ announcement I think. Airbus offered the A330 in the past for this requirement.

Expect some more Singapore Airlines action shortly. The 777 replacement > 2010 decision is coming up, they need some interim lift capasity before 2011 and I can see them taking the opportunity "blocking " the A380 slots options 2012-2015 for airlines like QF, BA, AI and Air China by taking options / ordering additional A380s, perhaps -900s. They indicated they are satisfied with A380 test results.

Quoting FlyingDoctorWu (Reply 15):
I am going to put in an order to buy now.

I can in no way be held responsible for initiating or stimulating any financial transactions by fellow a.netters, unless you win of course  Wink


User currently offlineLokey123 From Barbados, joined May 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9194 times:

Keesje,

I'd by and hold too, this is a great time to get a good deal on EADS stock. Hopefully they a bit more of a beating before it rebounds, would be a steal.


User currently offlineBoomBoom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9066 times:

I'm sure glad you started this thread, not me

Anyhow here is what the WSJ is saying:

Quote:
EADS shares plummeted, with stock down as much as 34% in Paris trading due to A380 delays. EADS has lost half its market value since March. The selloff came after Emirates Airlines Wednesday said it is reconsidering its order of Airbus A380s, the world's largest passenger aircraft, exacerbating an already delicate situation for EADS and Airbus. Emirates is so far the biggest customer for the A380, with 43 planes on order.

"This is in our view very damaging both to the credibility of EADS management, and also to Airbus' reputation for program management," Goldman Sachs analyst Sash Tusa said in a note to investors, referring to the delays. "Our concern is that this could both damage Airbus' chance of a successful re-launch of the A350 aircraft."

The news is a blow to EADS Co-CEO Noel Forgeard, who in 2000 oversaw the launch of the A380 as the head of Airbus. Charles Champion is currently in charge of the program. On a conference call Wednesday with analysts, Mr. Forgeard deflected suggestions that the setbacks could cost him his job.

"We have now to find the right ways forward rather than finger pointing the responsibilities of the past," Mr. Forgeard said. "We are working on managerial measures inside Airbus."

The problems with the A380, coupled with the need for Airbus to redesign its A350 model under criticism from customers, is not only exposing execution flaws, but also strategic ones, investors said.

"EADS made a strategic error by opting for a jumbo sized jet rather than a fuel efficient model, especially if the price of oil increases further," said Matthieu Raimbault of French brokerage Viel Tradition. "It's been a while since Airbus has given ground to Boeing -- even if [Airbus] has a lot of orders for its A380, they could be canceled."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1150...479926.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

[Edited 2006-06-14 17:18:14]

User currently offlineFlyingDoctorWu From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9043 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 20):
I can in no way be held responsible for initiating or stimulating any financial transactions by fellow a.netters, unless you win of course  

Don't worry I won't hold you responsible... but EADS will pull through this mess... and hopefully I can make a few bucks out of the deal.. it's not like they are Enron... (at least I hope not!)


User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9014 times:

Quoting Dhefty (Thread starter):

EADS has now lost 40% of its market capitalization this year!

What will this mean for the BAE buyout and EADS ability to raise funds for the A350/370?

Are there possible A380 cancellations in the works?

BAE is undoubtably the huge looser in Airbus's recent decline. One of my friends who works at Lockheed Martin actually speculated that Airbus may deliberatly be supressing their stock to cut their cash payment to BAE. If the terms of the arbitration don't come out well for BAE, I would expect to see a lawsuit from BAE alleging the same.

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 6):
"We don't believe it will have any effect on the valuation of our stake because it has to be based on the medium- to long-term prospects of the overall Airbus business. The long-term prospects don't change because of the delay," said a spokeswoman for BAE Systems...

As much as BAE wants to hold that position, the incredibly weak position of EADS stock right now means that:

a) It is going to be hard for Airbus to capitalize any cash buyout, simply because they have to sell more stock cheaper to make money. Low prices off of a high indicate a lack of investor appetite for EADS.

b) BAE's assets are in the form of a percentage of the company. EADS is basically being forced into a stock buy back. EADS will argue that it only makes sense to pay the actual stock rate for the purchase.

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 3):

That means the price has dropped by over E10.00 today - to less thatn half their value in March (over E35.00). And 35M. shares is about 5% of the whole company, sold off in a few hours.

I'm afraid that it looks like 'The End'. If this goes on for another hour or two I
would expect trading in the shares to be suspended.

NAV20, this might be a little too inflamitory. Airbus is doing quite well with their narrowbody market. Remember when Lockheed was forced out of the business with the L-1011, it didn't have any other markets besides the L-1011 to save it's commercial aviation business.

Chances are that EADS is a bit undercapitalized at this point. However, the Clearstream scandal is continuing to widen, and another EADS executive was named. Until EADS get's off the front page in France, and back on the order sheets their stock is going to underperform.


Quoting NAV20 (Reply 12):

The selloff came after Emirates Airlines said Wednesday that it is reconsidering its order of the double-decker A380, the world's largest passenger aircraft exacerbating an already delicate situation for EADS and its largest subsidiary.

"We have been informed by Airbus that the delivery of our A380 aircraft will be delayed by six months. Emirates now expects to receive its first A380 aircraft in October 2007, to be put into operation in January 2008. We are considering our position and will be engaging with the manufacturer over the next few weeks," said a statement from the airline, which has 45 A380 on order.

That's a very liberal reading of EK's comments. Unless Boeing goes out there and offers 80 747-8i's at cost and EK has a no penalty way of withdrawing from the contract, EK would never consider such a move.

That being said, if it ever did happen, the absolutly huge pullback in orders would be similar to what would have happened to the 747 if Pan-Am and TWA pulled out.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 17):


So, you guys are a lot more knowledgeable than myself with regard to Airbus, EADS, and market conditions. In your opinion, how much (if any) of this stock drop can be attributed to the recent SIA order of 20 787s?

I frankly think that in light of the ILFC comments, the market has already priced in the lack of performance of the A350. In fact I think you can make a good argument that the Market has basically written off the entire wide body arm of Airbus, and you basically can buy Airbus for just the narrowbody market. May not be a bad deal.


25 Wingman : If I had any money to spare I would've bought today. The long term prospects are still very sound and 18 months from now many will moan at the lost op
26 Jacobin777 : I think EADS stock has great long-term potential, but I'm not so sure how to buy from the United States....any ideas?
27 RayChuang : I think right now the big thing is what will Airbus unveil at the Farnborough Air Show in regards to the revised A350 and finalized A370 designs. If i
28 Katekebo : Not necessarily. The amount that EADS has to pay will be determined by a third party arbitrator. BAE made their put option announcement before EADS s
29 NAV20 : Jacobin777, ring any stockbroker - there's a direct link now between the New York Exchange and Paris. But my advice would be to wait a while. I'm no
30 Post contains images Jacobin777 : thanks for the info... Agree..I would only take a very small "initial" position, and not even average down,but wait until some of the "technicals" of
31 Halls120 : Same here. EADS is a sound investment, in the long term.
32 Post contains images Khobar : Excuse me for bringing this up, but with all the gloom and doom some are predicting for Airbus, have these same people forgotten that Airbus isn't lik
33 Post contains images Jacobin777 : that's why I want to buy EADS stock, I know the company won't go under...
34 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Why don't you ring the airlines' senior management? They are currently the only ones who could probably tell you. followed by... Sorry, but talking a
35 SeeTheWorld : He's exactly right. This wasn't just one event in time, and now it is over. It's unclear if there is going to be additional issues, including custome
36 Dhefty : Maybe so, but Boeing stock is up over 4 points today, one of the largest single-day gains in its recent history. What an amazing turnabout for these
37 IFEMaster : So I guess now would be a good time buy some EADS stock.
38 Stitch : Well it is up $4.27 as of 12:23PM EDT to $81.25. The 52-week high is $89.58.
39 Socal : Can I get a large popcorn and a large soda.....please
40 AirFrnt : The underlying reality (as in can not be changed short of a massive government recapitilization) is that EADS can not simply afford to pay off the en
41 Sulman : All part of the risk when introducing ground-breaking technology. Short memories, people. The 747 almost ruined Boeing, and was extremely problematic
42 Atmx2000 : Um no. It was the last piece they made that had bubbles. They had made many pieces before using previous tooling that didn't have bubbles, but the ne
43 Atmx2000 : I'm a bit surprised that this wasn't anticipated at all by the market. Was there any insider activity? Maybe the Lagedere and DaimlerChrysler sales (o
44 Leelaw : IIRC, Forgeard and his immediate family have been exercising options and making substantial stock sales in recent months. NAV20 is the true maven of
45 Post contains images Legoguy : As the stock prices are low at the moment...would now be a good time to buy some shares?? Surely they will pick up again with Farnborough just around
46 Art : All I can say as a holder of BAE stock/shares is s 2letters t. I bought the d 4letters d things in anticipation of various countries ordering the T 5
47 Boeing7E7 : Like BAE deciding to jump ship what a month ago??? Pass the M&M's
48 Post contains images TinkerBelle : WHAT?? Commissions in this day and age are even $5 so I wouldn't worry too much about that. He can't even fly a Boeing without setting off alarms at
49 Daedaeg : I'm thinking of doing the same. This is a good time to at least consider purchasing while it's low. Certainly there are going to be brighter days ahe
50 Tbird : This is fantastic news!!! Now is the time to buy this stock and buy it in a big way! EADS isn't going anywhere and their current problems are no indic
51 Glideslope : What makes you think there will be a 380 to put in slots?
52 Astuteman : You probably answered you own question............
53 Legoguy : Where do we buy stocks and how much are they usually? Im only so dont have a clue. Im in the big wide world now!
54 Lokey123 : I have a totally off the point question but what the hell i'm going to ask it anyway. I would like to know if anyone here is familiar with Embraer's c
55 Jonathan-l : Boeing had its fair share of bad times and today it's in good shape. Airbus is not going down the drain because the A380 is delayed. It is very obviou
56 Art : You're not standing in a wide fuse A350/370 are you?
57 Sllevin : While the stock may likely rebound, still, keep in mind that you are taking a gamble. Should EK in fact reconsider and diminish their A380 order the s
58 Keesje : true & if you know the details you need the disipline to stay on the side line / find public sources at the risk of ringing bells..
59 SeeTheWorld : Plus, there seems to be wide speculation about what the real problem is. If they are trying to hide a bigger or different problem, the stock will tak
60 AndesSMF : Sure Airbus in not going away and will come up again in the future. The market gamble at the moment is whether they have reached bottom or is there so
61 Post contains images Desh : Not unless that A380 we saw making its test flights was an FX ....
62 Post contains links AerospaceFan : I feel a kind of sadness for Airbus, because it was doing so well before last year. I do not take pleasure in bad tidings for Airbus at all, even thou
63 MarkATL : I totally agree. Let's not forget that the first 747 flight was delayed because the aircraft had to be substuted as the first one craped out. A proje
64 TVNWZ : The idea is to buy LOW. Now is the time to buy. That is how you get rich. Airbus is well run (for the most part) and is going nowhere. Troubles today
65 Post contains images Jacobin777 : what the 'ell do you know about commissions.... by the way, I have a photo for you I took when I was in London..... AirFrnt....Airbus is getting kill
66 DEVILFISH : As has been repeated enough, there are no "goodbyes" here, only "good buys."
67 Bobster2 : Some people thought Enron was a good buy at $15.
68 AirFrnt : There is a world of difference going from the 707 (with it's 737 sized fuselage) to the 747. The A380 is not that much larger then the A340. I bought
69 Post contains images AerospaceFan : ^^Re: Reply 48: That's a very nice photo of such a beautiful lady. And the nose art is nice, too.  [Edited 2006-06-15 00:31:08]
70 Post contains images DEVILFISH : It's amazing what different perspectives we get with hindsight. Only time will tell.
71 AerospaceFan : My stock in Boeing has been going up and up and up. I am quite pleased. (I hasten to add that this does not mean that I am happy about Airbus' proble
72 Atmx2000 : In what time frame? There might be better places to put your money at the current point in time.
73 NADC10Fan : This is a solid buy opportunity presented here. EADS/Airbus will rebound, it's simply an issue of time. Smart money would be to keep a close eye on t
74 Post contains images Keesje : Anything goes these days to put down A380 accomplishments.
75 AerospaceFan : I don't own EADS stock, so I maybe speaking out of school, here. But, I feel it safe to say that any analysis of the potential of this stock should t
76 MarkATL : It dropped on emotional decissions. Whan the A370 is offered, and airlines start sniffing the price will go up. Everyone will start calling the 777 o
77 AerospaceFan : I hope folks don't take this chance to bash the A380. The A380 has 50% more floor space than the 747-400 and can carry about twice as many people dep
78 Coa747 : Airbus isn't isn't going to collapse, they will rebound. But short term they have a lot of problems to sort out and most of them have nothing to do wi
79 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Enron wasn't a government-supported entity...........
80 Post contains links Keesje : It passed my mind today, but I thought nah.. A furious row erupted last night between the two shareholders in Airbus after BAE Systems accused EADS of
81 Skywatch : While Europe was cringing, look what happened in Seattle! Boeing stock opened at $76.98 with a previous downward trend, and closed today at $82.01! Wo
82 Post contains links Jonno : Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer 14/6/06: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/1310AP_France_Air
83 Atmx2000 : No, it dropped because they gave a profit warning that indicated that the total profits in the 2007 to 2010 time frame would be down by over a couple
84 AirFrnt : Don't get too addicted. What went up, will surely come down in this industry. Kseeje, that's not fair. It was not my intent to "put down" the A380, a
85 Oroka : I wish I had a large sum of money right now to invest in Airbus stocks! There is no way EADS will just die off, the stocks HAVE to go back up. I suspe
86 Kaitak744 : Also, is it only me that noticed ABC news messed up? Its 43 A380s, not 45.
87 Sllevin : Don't confuse existence and value. irbus can well go on operating and fine, but the stock price -- which reflects the value of the company -- doesn't
88 AirFrnt : It doesn't have to go back up. Look at what happened to Lockheed and McDonnel Douglas. I need to look at the fundamentals a bit closer, but at the cu
89 Post contains images Keesje : 20.00-18.01*5000= E10.000, how much a.net banner can I buy for that?
90 Revelation : Or it'll go down because they'll wonder if A370 will suffer a year long delay because Airbus still can't figure out how to manufacture wiring harness
91 Astuteman : Don't know how true it is, but I've just read a comment on another thread which states that the sub-contractor responsible for the A380 harnesses is
92 Katekebo : Isn't this actually very good news for Boeing? It gives them time to work out a solution. Also, I think Airbus has specifically mentioned that the wi
93 Post contains links Spartanmjf : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199665,00.html Euroskepticism? Oh please. Stock trading, corporate parent claiming no knowledge of the extent of d
94 Katekebo : More details are emerging from Lagardere. Regarding the sale of Forgeard's stock option in April: I think the comment about May meeting with Humbert a
95 Sllevin : Were you actually able to buy 5,000 shares at those prices? it looks like 18.01 and 20.00 were only hit momentarily, in fact, according to your chart
96 NADC10Fan : Yep ... it is a sweeping statement both ways, AerospaceFan. I'm truly not advising my friend blindly on the issue, and I'm not recommending that anyo
97 Leelaw : Personally, I'd chalk-up the current situatuon more to downright incompetence, than outright venality. However, if history teaches us anything, the r
98 AndesSMF : This is where the (typical) market reaction can place them between a rock and a hard place for a while. The expected A380 revenues will not materiali
99 Post contains links Mariner : Per Forbes, at least one analyst thinks EADS stock is a buy: http://www.forbes.com/markets/2006/0...s-boeing-airbus-0615markets19.html "EADS looks che
100 Post contains links BoomBoom : I guess it depends on whether you believe this is all the bad news there is, or is another shoe going to drop? Personally, I'm skeptical of the "wiri
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