Again, as I have stated in the past, I do find that the concentration that the Toronto Star and the Record of Waterloo Region have put on this air-safety thing are, in some instances, overblown and quite hyped-up, I must say that this article highlights some of the issues that travellers that *I* know of who travelled JetsGo experienced however..
Quite a concern if you ask me -- that a Government body which is supposed to protect the people, would allow an airline with such shoddy maintenance practices (which has now been proven to be true, according to the Transport Canada report detailled in the article) to continue flying.
JetsGo had a great business model, unfortunately, the only way you can offer fares that low, is to undercut other areas of your business, and maintenance appeared to be one of them.
NiagaraFlyer From Canada, joined May 2006, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3739 times:
As blown up as the article may be the facts are still true. jetsGo had ongoing mx problems with their fleet and it's probably good that they suspended operations before they had a serious incident. An interesting statistic I found was the number of incidents that SG had:
Airman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 981 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3665 times:
I Cannot believe the amount of problems in only 3 short years. WOW. I used to live with a flight attendant that worked there and she said it was a nightmare. On many flights there was this burning smell she said that lasted the entire flight. The incident in YYC was amazing that noone was hurt, and they managed to get airborne off the the grass. Also working with Ex Royal Airlines flight attendants. they had their share of stories of working for M. Leblanc. I think this man has a golden Horseshoe up his A** Hopefully he will not be taking to the skies in Canada anytime soon. But I do hear that he is lurking somewhere with a new venture.
Royal had maintenance concerns with their L1011's and 727's quite frequently.
Air Transat's maintenance came under scrutiny after an A330 glides across the Atlantic (i am exagerating a bit) after losing all it's fuel.
SonicBlue airways loses it's operating certificate after one of it's Cessna Caravans crashes.
AC Jazz has only recently been in the news after their own people are speaking out about concerns.
And the first few years at WJ were spent "fixing" their ancient -200's by ways people who work there want to keep "hush, hush".
I guess that is all part of operating an airline in Canada. Competition is SO good, the airlines have started living on the edge. Cutting a few wages here, a few management positions there, and let's slash our maintenance budget and outsource it to a contract company which won't feel the same pride and respect an airline employee feels.
Oh, yes, deregulation is good for the Canadian people. It has given them the opportunity to "sample" all these different types of airlines with their "dawn of the jet-era" aircraft and fancy new hip slogans, just in time for them to close-up shop overnight or merge with another carrier.
I wonder how 5G's marketing budget compared to their maintenance budget?
BWIA330 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
I use to work for Jetsgo at the Toronto base as a ground agent, and let me tell you. That article is 100% true. I worked for Jetsgo, had free passes to fly with them and I choose to fly another airline and pay my money. Alot of us knew that the airlines fate was doomed after the YYC incident. And yes, thank god no one, or nothing fatal had happend. Those MD-80's were the worst thing to have operating at Jetsgo. And dont even mention the Fokkers, even worse. We had so many mechanical problems it wasnt even funny to deal with all the angry passengers.
Apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4469 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3468 times:
Quoting Aeroplan73 (Reply 7): I think it comes back to the notion that if planes aren't 'falling from the sky', the system must be working.
The problem I see is that agencies like the FAA and transport canada are there to ensure the safety of those who fly the skies. Airlines however are in the business of making money (and not doing a very good job at the moment) so they look for ways to take shortcuts and stuff, which is often at the expense of safety. The FAA turns a blind eye because these airlines send lobbyists up to the hill and funnels money to the right people. And when someone in government does see a problem and speaks out, like Mary Schiavo, that person is ridiculed. Then a tragedy happens. We should be proactive to prevent tragedies, not reactive.
Canuckjetsettr From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3451 times:
Don't get me wrong. I am a BIG supporter of WestJet and fly them everywhere.
I always felt safe flying the -200's and still don't even think about any issues when boarding their new planes now. I know alot of people too and while I am not saying they would have EVER dispatched an unsafe aircraft, there were days early on where maintenance would not necessarily revert to "common" practices.
Those first few -200's were old (the oldest they ever had in their fleet) and when you first start flying a discount carrier for $29 one-way fares between YEG-YYC you can't honestly say they were able to put in the same MONEY (not care and attention by employees) but MONEY into maintenance.
Talk to some old school pilots (Ernie) and some old ops managers and they will tell you the days when they had to charter KFC 727's to support their ops when a -200 would go down for mtc.
Jetsgo had it's share of incidents. Far more than WJ. But don't forget that EVERYONE has growing pains. WJ had theirs, SG had theirs. Obviously the victor came out on top.