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On Tour With The 787: Dreamliner Is On Schedule  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 4298 posts, RR: 46
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5292 times:
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From ATW Online:

A couple of things to note:
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
2) Emrates expected to launch 787-10 next month at Farnbourgh.

http://atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=5411


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User currently offlineMham001 From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5088 times:

This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.

User currently offlineRevelation From United States, joined Feb 2005, 4045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.

That, and the World Cup football games!  Wink


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User currently offlineRJpieces From United States, joined Nov 2003, 7432 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5025 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month

If they do decide on a 2nd production line, when will it open? And this will essentially allow them to double the amount of orders they have already gotten for the first three years of slots, correct?


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10190 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):

If they do decide on a 2nd production line, when will it open? And this will essentially allow them to double the amount of orders they have already gotten for the first three years of slots, correct?

It's not expected to open until 2010, so it would not allow for a doubling of slots over the first three years.

User currently offline11Bravo From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1528 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
A couple of things to note:
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
2) Emrates expected to launch 787-10 next month at Farnbourgh.

The first item there was pretty much expected.

The business about the B787-10 is a bit of news though. The previous Boeing statements on B787-10 were vague with folks saying "... not a matter of if, but when" and "... sometime later in the year...". If Boeing pulls the trigger at Farnbourgh, we are likely to see a whole bunch of additional orders for the B787 in 2006.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 4298 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4749 times:
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Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 6):
If Boeing pulls the trigger at Farnbourgh, we are likely to see a whole bunch of additional orders for the B787 in 2006.

Right on!!  thumbsup   checkmark 


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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 1647 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Yes, and Boeing deserves to rebecome the world's leader in Aerospace!!!


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

So, I gather that Emirates is to launch the 777-10! Woohoo! This is good news, I think.

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 4298 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4450 times:
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Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 9):
777-10!

Did you mean the 787-10 or were you being sarcastic?


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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States, joined Jul 2009, 135 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4366 times:

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 1):
This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.

What scandal? ITA coach and goalie being investigated for match fixing?

Looking foward to Farnborough this year. Big grin


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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1187 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4195 times:

Whether EK will launch 787-10 still remains to be seen. They still could go for A350 (A370????). Singapore was one of prime candidates for -10 and somehow they went for -9... They could always pull Air New Zealand and change it later though.
Emirates have done stranger things in the past, though... like ordering 45 A380s for example....


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 4298 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4177 times:
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Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 12):
Whether EK will launch 787-10 still remains to be seen. They still could go for A350 (A370????). Singapore was one of prime candidates for -10 and somehow they went for -9... They could always pull Air New Zealand and change it later though.
Emirates have done stranger things in the past, though... like ordering 45 A380s for example....

The only reason that they didn't buy the -10 is because it is not officially being offered for sale. 20 aircraft is probably not enough to launch the aircraft. However they still have 20 options which they could convert to the -10.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):
Did you mean the 787-10 or were you being sarcastic?

I apologize -- I meant to type "787-10"! Perhaps it was a Freudian mistake, though, on my part.

I like the 777 a lot and hate to see it out-competed even by another Boeing product.

[Edited 2006-06-16 23:06:57]

User currently offlineTravelin man From United States, joined Mar 2000, 2997 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month

It doesn't seem to me that the article said that exactly. The quote from the article is the following:

Citing continued strong interest in the aircraft, he said a decision on an increase in the production rate will be made later this month.

Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 4298 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3843 times:
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Quoting Travelin man (Reply 14):
Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?

I believe Boeing said that the only way to increase production is to open a 2nd production line.


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2004, 5632 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 14):
Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?

Original production was supposed to be 90 frames per year I believe. That since has increased to 148 at the moment as far as I know. I don't know anything about production lines, but there has been demand for the planes.


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User currently offlineTristanHNL From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Apr 2006, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16):
Original production was supposed to be 90 frames per year I believe. That since has increased to 148 at the moment as far as I know.

Holy cow, 148 frames a year! That's 12 and 1/3 frames a month, up from 7.5 frames a month! To me that seems quite an incredible leap. This has to be considered another groundbreaking aspect of the 787, or is it not?


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3400 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

I happened to be passing Boeing today and saw this near a hangar. It looks like it is coming along. Sorry if it has been shown on here before, but hey now!!!

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...6779&filename=1150521054hS8bn1.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...6779&filename=1150521019lEBHcc.jpg

[Edited 2006-06-17 09:59:01]


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User currently offlineRsbj From United States, joined Jan 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1502 times:

Thanks, F9animal. I haven't seen those yet.
We've yet to see any pics of wing components. Anyone have an idea on when we may?


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User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1437 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1480 times:

These are not actual sections, who in a sound mind would store them outside in Seattle's climate?

Those are general mock-ups for painting, posted often before...


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User currently offlineJohnny From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1354 times:

@ Nudelhirsch

I remember Boeing built some B757s on the apron instead in the completion hangar due to a lack of capacity.It was a funny picture to see two fuselage section been assembled by two cranes - OUTSIDE...

 Smile

But these B787-segments are test-frames and nothing more.

Johnny  Smile

User currently offlineThebry From United States, joined Jan 2006, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 912 times:
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Quoting F9Animal (Reply 18):
I happened to be passing Boeing today and saw this near a hangar. It looks like it is coming along. Sorry if it has been shown on here before, but hey now!!!

Thanks for the pics F9Animal. Although I realize these are proto pics, they're the best close-ups I've seen so far. Interesting to see to section join detail around one of the windows. The next 12 months (manufacturing and first flight) are going to be VERY interesting.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18451 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 904 times:

SQs order was 20/20 and to me that always sounded like 20 789 + 20 787-10 when launched.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4):
It's not expected to open until 2010, so it would not allow for a doubling of slots over the first three years.

I believe the line would open specifically for the 787-9 and 787-10, so it would come on line when the 787-9 is testing and delivery frames are being built.


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3400 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 794 times:

Quoting Rsbj (Reply 19):
Thanks, F9animal. I haven't seen those yet.
We've yet to see any pics of wing components. Anyone have an idea on when we may?

Thanks guys!
I think I just got lucky yesterday. I just happened to be driving by going to get a good look at Airforce 1, and I saw this. I almost flipped the car, as I got more excited to see that then Airforce 1! I will keep an eye out and see if I can get any views of the wing section. I also have a friend who is working on the 787 project. The hangar door was open, and I can say that there appears to be more parts to this plane already. I just could not get a good vantage point over that fence.

Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 20):
These are not actual sections, who in a sound mind would store them outside in Seattle's climate?

Those are general mock-ups for painting, posted often before...

Not sure on this, but I have never seen them outside before. It could have been that they put it outside for some summer cleaning in the hangar. It was not raining at the time, and when I drove back, I did not see it out there again.

Imagine my excitement when I saw it! LOL! I am sure I almost caused an accident, as I was all over the road. Just cool to see it, I guess. I have another picture I will try to upload. I think the third pic is even closer and better.


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