NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5155 posts, RR: 49 Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7498 times:
From ATW Online:
A couple of things to note:
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
2) Emrates expected to launch 787-10 next month at Farnbourgh.
Mham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3001 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7294 times:
This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10468 posts, RR: 20 Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7283 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter): This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.
RJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7231 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter): 1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
If they do decide on a 2nd production line, when will it open? And this will essentially allow them to double the amount of orders they have already gotten for the first three years of slots, correct?
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7194 times:
Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
If they do decide on a 2nd production line, when will it open? And this will essentially allow them to double the amount of orders they have already gotten for the first three years of slots, correct?
It's not expected to open until 2010, so it would not allow for a doubling of slots over the first three years.
11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1646 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6955 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter): A couple of things to note:
1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
2) Emrates expected to launch 787-10 next month at Farnbourgh.
The first item there was pretty much expected.
The business about the B787-10 is a bit of news though. The previous Boeing statements on B787-10 were vague with folks saying "... not a matter of if, but when" and "... sometime later in the year...". If Boeing pulls the trigger at Farnbourgh, we are likely to see a whole bunch of additional orders for the B787 in 2006.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5155 posts, RR: 49 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6955 times:
Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 6): If Boeing pulls the trigger at Farnbourgh, we are likely to see a whole bunch of additional orders for the B787 in 2006.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5155 posts, RR: 49 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6656 times:
BoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 57 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6572 times:
Quoting Mham001 (Reply 1): This is relatively big news if true. Too bad its overshadowed by scandal.
What scandal? ITA coach and goalie being investigated for match fixing?
BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1709 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6401 times:
Whether EK will launch 787-10 still remains to be seen. They still could go for A350 (A370????). Singapore was one of prime candidates for -10 and somehow they went for -9... They could always pull Air New Zealand and change it later though.
Emirates have done stranger things in the past, though... like ordering 45 A380s for example....
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5155 posts, RR: 49 Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6383 times:
Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 12): Whether EK will launch 787-10 still remains to be seen. They still could go for A350 (A370????). Singapore was one of prime candidates for -10 and somehow they went for -9... They could always pull Air New Zealand and change it later though.
Emirates have done stranger things in the past, though... like ordering 45 A380s for example....
The only reason that they didn't buy the -10 is because it is not officially being offered for sale. 20 aircraft is probably not enough to launch the aircraft. However they still have 20 options which they could convert to the -10.
Travelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6161 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter): 1) 2nd production line decision still expected at the end of this month
It doesn't seem to me that the article said that exactly. The quote from the article is the following:
Citing continued strong interest in the aircraft, he said a decision on an increase in the production rate will be made later this month.
Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5155 posts, RR: 49 Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6049 times:
Quoting Travelin man (Reply 14): Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?
I believe Boeing said that the only way to increase production is to open a 2nd production line.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8744 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5647 times:
Quoting Travelin man (Reply 14): Would it be possible for Boeing to increase production on the one line without opening an all-new line? Or is the original line basically "at capacity"?
Original production was supposed to be 90 frames per year I believe. That since has increased to 148 at the moment as far as I know. I don't know anything about production lines, but there has been demand for the planes.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
TristanHNL From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4721 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16): Original production was supposed to be 90 frames per year I believe. That since has increased to 148 at the moment as far as I know.
Holy cow, 148 frames a year! That's 12 and 1/3 frames a month, up from 7.5 frames a month! To me that seems quite an incredible leap. This has to be considered another groundbreaking aspect of the 787, or is it not?
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4239 times:
I happened to be passing Boeing today and saw this near a hangar. It looks like it is coming along. Sorry if it has been shown on here before, but hey now!!!
Rsbj From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3708 times:
Thanks, F9animal. I haven't seen those yet.
We've yet to see any pics of wing components. Anyone have an idea on when we may?
Johnny From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3560 times:
@ Nudelhirsch
I remember Boeing built some B757s on the apron instead in the completion hangar due to a lack of capacity.It was a funny picture to see two fuselage section been assembled by two cranes - OUTSIDE...
But these B787-segments are test-frames and nothing more.
Thebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
Quoting F9Animal (Reply 18): I happened to be passing Boeing today and saw this near a hangar. It looks like it is coming along. Sorry if it has been shown on here before, but hey now!!!
Thanks for the pics F9Animal. Although I realize these are proto pics, they're the best close-ups I've seen so far. Interesting to see to section join detail around one of the windows. The next 12 months (manufacturing and first flight) are going to be VERY interesting.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3110 times:
SQs order was 20/20 and to me that always sounded like 20 789 + 20 787-10 when launched.
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4): It's not expected to open until 2010, so it would not allow for a doubling of slots over the first three years.
I believe the line would open specifically for the 787-9 and 787-10, so it would come on line when the 787-9 is testing and delivery frames are being built.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3000 times:
Quoting Rsbj (Reply 19): Thanks, F9animal. I haven't seen those yet.
We've yet to see any pics of wing components. Anyone have an idea on when we may?
Thanks guys!
I think I just got lucky yesterday. I just happened to be driving by going to get a good look at Airforce 1, and I saw this. I almost flipped the car, as I got more excited to see that then Airforce 1! I will keep an eye out and see if I can get any views of the wing section. I also have a friend who is working on the 787 project. The hangar door was open, and I can say that there appears to be more parts to this plane already. I just could not get a good vantage point over that fence.
Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 20): These are not actual sections, who in a sound mind would store them outside in Seattle's climate?
Those are general mock-ups for painting, posted often before...
Not sure on this, but I have never seen them outside before. It could have been that they put it outside for some summer cleaning in the hangar. It was not raining at the time, and when I drove back, I did not see it out there again.
Imagine my excitement when I saw it! LOL! I am sure I almost caused an accident, as I was all over the road. Just cool to see it, I guess. I have another picture I will try to upload. I think the third pic is even closer and better.