Cascade07 From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 13 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4566 times:
Great vid...however ATC were pretty keen to find out the reason for the go around...Would this type of questioning by ATC be normal or were they perhaps a bit peeved about the go around messing up their presumably busy patterns??? It did seem a bit late to be calling a go around due to a gear warning...???
TWAtwaTWA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4054 times:
Quoting Jerry911 (Reply 9): "Absolutely amazing"?? You guys need to get out more.
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5): I guess working at an airport and seeing go arounds sometimes weekly I don't get the excitment. In fact I don't even take the time to look anymore......
Why rain on this parade?
Last I checked, this is a site for enthusiasts that are passionate about aviation. This is a great post of a relatively high quality and lengthy video. It nicely documents the approach and the communications regarding this relatively uncommon situation. I certainly find it interesting, as do 1662 other readers (at the time of this posting)
Thanks, Fiaz, for the enjoyable post.
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SkySurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3955 times:
Quoting Cascade07 (Reply 8): however ATC were pretty keen to find out the reason for the go around...Would this type of questioning by ATC be normal or were they perhaps a bit peeved about the go around messing up their presumably busy patterns???
It's not that they are peeved, it's just that they like to know what the cause is in case it is something that will affect following aircraft, ie windshear, strong gusts etc. A few years back on a blustery day i watched from my apartment window as a BA319 came in to land. About 3 miles from touchdown the aircraft performed a go round with the male voice saying 'shuttle XXX going around'. ATC asked for the reason over the various frequencies with the NF pilot saying 'we'll tell you later'. Back on approach 10 mins later it was a female voice handling the communications.....all she said was 'we were a bit out of shape on approach'. Probably just a rookie pilot that got caught out by the gusty winds that day, so the more experienced captain took over. But to ATC it might have been something more serious that could affect following flights.
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DC10Forever From Brazil, joined Oct 2005, 82 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3605 times:
Sometimes rookie or very experienced pilots are complete out of the shape on approach and they report ATC many other reasons to go around. Just to not be with a impression of a bad pilot before their colleagues. It's weird but it happens a lot.
In this nice video the NF reported "problems with the landing gear lights". Isn't a little weird to check and see this at the final approach just seconds before touch down ?
Fiaz From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
for that video
i see what ur saying, but when u look closely to the PIA video...i just question why he would plant the plane down so late....see if ur having landing gear troubles....woulnt u want to plant it down so it gives u significant amounts of spaces to stop or recover.......and plus he could of brought it down smoothly a few hundreds of metres back aswell
well..im sure u guys have better judgment....what do u guys thinks??
PolymerPlane From United States of America, joined May 2006, 991 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3046 times:
If I were to execute a going around, and the ATC asked. I was hot and high, but too embarrased to reveal the actual reason, could I just say like what the pilot said landing gear light? Are they gonna check it?
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25 Positiverate: This was discussed in a previous thread: RE: Cool Video Of A 747 On A Go-around -ATC Included (by Positiverate Jun 12 2006 in Civil Aviation)#ID282133
26 AvroArrow: Very good quality video, great camera work and also nice with the ATC feed dubbed in too.
27 Caspian27: Actually, rechecking that the landing gears are green, indicating down and locked is part of the final landing items checklist.
28 Jetdeltamsy: That's what i'm thinking. That was about as average a landing as they come.
29 Mir: Well, if there's windshear or a microburst about, ATC wants to know about it ASAP so that they can issue advisories to other aircraft. Probably caugh
30 Positiverate: There's about a million reasons why ATC would want to know why an airplane went around, ranging from the one mentioend above to FOD or an obstruction
31 Oly720man: PK716 is JFK-MAN Now they use 747 for MAN-IAH-MAN, PK719/720. Seems to have changed over from 772 on 9th June. AP-BAT has done the last 2 flights.