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Virgin America Tail Wears The New Virgin Look?  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9275 times:

Virgin's signature logo definitely looks sharper on the America scheme, as one poster had stated some weeks back that it was being "tweaked" to be more legible you can see the difference in both these photos when you compare. So possibly the tail design might be changed on all VS group carriers to look like VS America, not just the logo but the whole tail scheme.


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User currently offlineA340Driver From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 94 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8877 times:

That is the new Virgin group logo. G-VFAB wears it at VS and it is used by Virgin Mobile/Virgin Money in the UK.

User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8764 times:

Question.... Is the Airline ever take to the skies here in the USA.????? The only thing I did not like about them is they where trying to hide the fact the Sir Richard Branson has his hand in on the airline. Now I know any dummy could tell he did by the name. But, why did the exec. for Virgian American try so hard to cover it up?????

As far as a new start up. I don't see this carrier as being a LLC. I see them as being something in between and LLC and major airlines. And I think they will go head to head with WN.

With that in Mind. Good luck Virgian America....

Chuck


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 8650 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 2):
But, why did the exec. for Virgian American try so hard to cover it up?????

I personally think Fred Reid is scum for what he did at DL, but what exactly did they try and cover up? It is no secret to anyone that Branson is involved as a stakeholder in the operation...


User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 8564 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 2):
But, why did the exec. for Virgian American try so hard to cover it up?????

I think it has something to do with a certain section of the population (on both sides of the aisle) saying hey, he's not American, I think I'll fly American because then Americans will get the money...

More on topic... I don't like the new color scheme. It's kinda ugly. Too white. But hopefully, with Virgin America, it's what's on the inside that counts. (IFE,service, etc...)

-Chans


User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8383 times:

They are really gear at going up against JetBlue, United, American, and so forth. What I am really interested in seeing is how they plan on making money only flying transcon flights. The market is already over saturated with seats and we already showed that flying transcon is not profitable like we originally thought, hence why we are pulling back transcon flights and redirecting the aircraft.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8096 times:

Are all VS aircraft going to be painted this way.


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User currently offlineVS74741R From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8056 times:

No that was just a special paint scheme on one aircraft to celebrate Virgin Atlantic's 21st birthday.


Obviously a Virgin Atlantic fan!!!
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8037 times:

The airline won't see the light of day...they will not receive certification. And even if they did by some miracle, they would not survive. The domestic carriers would eat them alive.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

Can any one explain why VS America has an over all different tail design to their other subsidiaries and VS Atlantic.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7986 times:

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 8):
The airline won't see the light of day...they will not receive certification. And even if they did by some miracle, they would not survive. The domestic carriers would eat them alive.

I take it someone doesn't like Virgin America...  Wink

I personally think they'll do well! Who knows... they could succeed and push one of the current airlines out of the picture!


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
I personally think they'll do well!

Based on?


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9638 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7628 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
I personally think they'll do well! Who knows... they could succeed and push one of the current airlines out of the picture!

I think it will be interesting. They are definitely something new. However as much as people complain about US Airlines, they are incredibly efficient companies. They are very lean operations that try to maximize efficiency. An incredibly competitive market will do that to a company. US airlines have done everything possible to cut costs down. It will be interesting to see if a somewhat foreign company can do any better.



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7603 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 9):
Can any one explain why VS America has an over all different tail design to their other subsidiaries and VS Atlantic.

Is it because Americans like retro schemes?

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Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 2):
The only thing I did not like about them is they where trying to hide the fact the Sir Richard Branson has his hand in on the airline.

But if it becomes known, for example, that he so much as suggested that a Virgin America SFO-JFK flight should be scheduled to arrive, say, two hours before the scheduled departure of a VS flight to LHR that would that not be an infringement of the US federal law that forbids a non-American citizen taking any management decision for a US airline?


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7603 times:

Embrace Open Skies and competition my friends. The inevitable short term pain will be outweighed by long term sustainability and profitability!

The needs of the many, outweight the needs of the few.
- Mr. Spock



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 11):
Based on?

Brand recognition, really, and the fact that they are, indeed, something a bit new. Its hard to say, I guess, until they're in the air... but with people moaning about US airlines, if VA come up with something good, people may switch!


User currently offlineExpressjetphx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7464 times:

I just noticed the wingtips on that Virgin America a/c and think they are incredibly tacky. I haven't done my homework but is Virgin America going to be an all-Y LCC or offer a Business/First Class product as well?

User currently offlineBriguy1974 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7446 times:

When will they start flying? When will they start hiring ramp staff? Any ideas anyone????

User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1276 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Transcons could work well in secondary markets. NYC-west coast needs more competition and service like Ted Kennedy needs another fifth. That said however, there are numerous secondary markets for example; PVD, DTW, PIT, CLE, CVG, BWI, RDU, CLT, CMH among many others that could provide a defensible niche. Will they go for that? Who knows. In any case, despite the fact that I am not fond at all of the colr red, I like the scheme.

User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7375 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 15):
Quoting Positiverate (Reply 11):
Based on?

Brand recognition, really, and the fact that they are, indeed, something a bit new. Its hard to say, I guess, until they're in the air... but with people moaning about US airlines, if VA come up with something good, people may switch!

Exactly... something new... VA (I wonder what their code will be)... I think this will happen..... just later than hoped....



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7304 times:

Why is it ok for American companies to own businesses outside America but not the other way round? Americans are pushing globalisation and buying up businesses overseas and others like Virgin are trying to do exactly the same in America. Can anyone tell me what the problem is?


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

VS Nigeria also have the new logo.


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User currently offlineGVWOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 168 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 7013 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 11):
Based on?

And maybe because of how succesful VS was?


User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 991 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 20):
Why is it ok for American companies to own businesses outside America but not the other way round? Americans are pushing globalisation and buying up businesses overseas and others like Virgin are trying to do exactly the same in America. Can anyone tell me what the problem is?

Its airline regulation that's it. Plenty of foreign companies buy US companies and vise versa.



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6626 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 15):
Brand recognition, really, and the fact that they are, indeed, something a bit new. Its hard to say, I guess, until they're in the air... but with people moaning about US airlines, if VA come up with something good, people may switch!

Indy Air was new... duck 


25 LH423 : No, Indy was a last-ditch effort for a regional airline that didn't have a choice but to either try it on their own or shut down. Not much else to do
26 Nosedive : Ah, sarcasim is wasted on the masses...
27 7E72004 : The thing is...i dont think they will even have a chance to fly. THey will not get the operating certificate.
28 StuckInCA : I'd still love to understand why they shouldn't. Because other carriers don't want competition? Tough. Other businesses don't get that sort of protec
29 Cumulonimbus : Me thinks if Virgin America trys to set up in BWI FL and WN will not be very happy. Mike
30 7E72004 : You forget there are laws that apply to ownership of a domestic carrier by a foreign entity or person. It is clear that while Branson says he would no
31 StuckInCA : I guess I haven't seen proof of this. It seems more like speculation to me. Anyway, why do I care who's pulling the strings?
32 7E72004 : You should care because if you are a VA fan then you may be surprised at what the law says, etc. If Branson is pulling the strings and essentially "ru
33 StuckInCA : I'm not exactly a fan (hardly care either way), I'm just surprised at the swell of hatred towards them. People should be working harder to make their
34 Post contains images 7E72004 : I am not saying i hate VA...but reality is the chances of them getting the proper certification is as good as Jenna Jameson coming over to my place to
35 DJ738 : It would be safe to assume VirginBlue will progressively start to alter the font of "Virgin" on their tails soon too... Anyone have any idea when this
36 7E72004 : If VA did start service, i would try them...i would be saying the same thing about a new domestic carrier trying to start service. THere is no room fo
37 VirginFlyer : That Virgin Nigeria picture shows the same style as the current Virgin Blue and Virgin Atlantic schemes, not the new Virgin America one... V/F
38 AirNZ : Seems to me you're doing an awful lot of hoping in this particular matter as you keep on repeating this nonsense......any particular reason why?
39 Post contains links VirginCrew : Hey guys, Check out www.virginatlantic.com, it shows Virgin's new logo ! Which has been adopted by Virgin America. I think it's a lush logo, very mode
40 Post contains images AirframeAS : Add me to that mix as well! I'm betting the F.A.A. is gonna say SOMETHING about that. You cannot brand the american flag and you must get permission
41 JBo : The wingtip design is pretty much directly taken from the winglet design on the VS planes which depict the UK union flag in a similar manner. I agree
42 AirframeAS : It doesnt matter, the FAA will say SOMETHING about it sooner or later....
43 VirginFlyer : Could you please point us in the direction of the FAR relating to the use of the American flag on aircraft? V/F
44 Antoniemey : I seem to recall that being asked before and no one being able to find it. Here's the thing, what's on the Virgin America wingtip is NOT the American
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