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Nashville Seeks Tokyo Flights  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32697 posts, RR: 72
Posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7973 times:

So Nissan moves their HQ to the Music City, and all of the sudden they think they can support Tokyo flights. Can't beat them down for dreaming, but I really hope they don't waste time trying to sell this idea, which just isn't going to work:

Tennasean article:
http://www.ashlandcitytimes.com/apps...7/BUSINESS01/606170318/1291/MTCN01

There are quite a handful of US cities - San Diego, Phoenix, Denver, Miami, Boston, Philadelphia, Maui, Anchorage, Las Vegas (JAL leaves in the fall), and even Northwest-hubbed Memphis - that would see Tokyo service before Nashville, IMO.


a.
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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5049 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7961 times:

STL is still seeking an occupant for the rest of D Concourse.

I'm still looking for that winning powerball ticket.

Keep dreaming BNA. BNA is easily accessible to NRT via ORD/MSP/DTW/ATL/DFW.



Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7944 times:

Perhaps ATA could do a BNA-NRT/LGW/CDG/FRA/HNL and use the WN feed...

Perhaps.. I'm just thinking out loud..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineAirlinebrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7930 times:

Good luck!! That would be a good Powerball lottery bet....... The odds would be similar.....


I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7916 times:

With ATL just a 35 minute flight away..?? Never. One business does not a demand make.


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7904 times:

BNA-NRT? Good one! Not going to happen i'm afraid. The market is just too small, and one corporate hdq cannot support the service on its own.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7893 times:

Wow, those guys must be smoking some very intense stuff. If anything at all, Nissan could start their own, private BBJ/ACJ service, at most, like DC has between Detroit and Stuttgart, but commercial flights, hells no!

User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7866 times:

Quoting Airlinebrat (Reply 3):
The odds would be similar

Worse, IMO. Chances are between slim and none, and slim just left town.

They can always dream, can't they?  Smile


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22867 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7766 times:

You know, it's not as farfetched as it seems. There are a ton of Japanese expats in Nashville (all you need to do to demonstrate this is eat some sushi downtown-- maybe the best between the coasts), and a couple of businesses. Still, there's absolutely no chance. Who would fly it? Maybe WN after their whalejets are delivered...


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User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7733 times:

There's an IKEA opening here in SLC, so I think Delta should start some SLC-ARN flights!  laughing 

User currently offlineIH8B6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7680 times:

Ed Nelson, the merchant banker and Japan's honorary consul general in Tennessee says it's likely to happen?


What the heck is this dude smoking?! Nice of him to give false hope to all those Nashvillians.....



Over-moderation sucks
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7648 times:

Quoting MastaHanky (Reply 9):
There's an IKEA opening here in SLC, so I think Delta should start some SLC-ARN flights! laughing

Yep, and I read in today's Chronicle that Houston has some 7.000 Argentines, perhaps we can talk AR into serving EZE/IAH alongside CO's current service  laughing  .

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2282 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Quoting IH8B6 (Reply 10):
Ed Nelson, the merchant banker and Japan's honorary consul general in Tennessee says it's likely to happen?


What the heck is this dude smoking?! Nice of him to give false hope to all those Nashvillians.....

Totally agree. What on earth makes these people think that BNA will ever have a non stop Japan flight. The best they could hope for would be maybe a same plane direct flight on NWA with a stop in MEM to pick up connecting passengers. Until they find an ERJ or CRJ that would have the range to fly it I don't see BNA ever getting this flight Big grin


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7455 times:

If, hypothetically, NRT-BNA service were to be introduced, it most likely be either a US or a Japanese carrier. Let's consider the two cases separately.

There are no cases of a US carrier serving NRT from any airport at which they don't have a hub operation. Why should BNA be any different?

JL and NH serve HNL, KOA, SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK, and IAD. Plus LAS for a few more months. That's it. If either JL or NH were about to add another US destination, there are plenty of candidates ahead of BNA.

As for another airline with 5th freedom rights to serve the US via NRT such as SQ or TG, that suffers from the same problem as the JL/NH case.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25080 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7455 times:
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Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 12):
What on earth makes these people think that BNA will ever have a non stop Japan flight.

Don't ask? You don't get.

Don't dream? You don't achieve.

And if what they end up with is a same plane one stop service, that's more than they have now.

mariner



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7402 times:

They should charter World/or my charter airline X to do some scheduled service bi-weekly or something. I miss Japan.

User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 14):
Don't ask? You don't get.

Exactly, it doesn't hurt to try, this country is built on the impossible dream so why can't BNA have Japan service-- for that matter why can't STL get LGW service back?? Yes, I know, but I can hope.  optimist 


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7331 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 12):
Until they find an ERJ or CRJ that would have the range to fly it I don't see BNA ever getting this flight

The B787-8 will almost certainly result in a few more US cities getting nonstop service to NRT. The next major round of market fragmentation after that will result from the Airbus NSR (A320 replacement) and B737RS, however, they will almost certainly not have NRT-BNA range. Unless a US airline starts up a hub operation at BNA, it's not going to happen in the next 20 years. Maybe when the B787-8 gets replaced.


User currently offlineRipdog From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7318 times:

Nice positive attitude Mariner, something to be said for that. I fly out of BNA about once a month with of course WN. In my opinion, Nashville is by no means an International Gateway. I can see maybe a connection thru MEM,DTW,ATL,ORD etc. There is no way this town can support this, it is too regional. The chatter here is all about the 700 new jobs in Williamson County. From what I hear, a lot of folks are moving here from California. Just not going to happen, right now anyway. But who knows... too many opitions to connect right now.Two airplanes to Narita is not that bad.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3939 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7284 times:
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I think they'll get it!! I just saw two cows with wings flying outside my window!!!


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7272 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
So Nissan moves their HQ to the Music City, and all of the sudden they think they can support Tokyo flights.

At first when I saw this topic name, I thought BNA was trying to cash in on tourism dollars from asia.


User currently offlineRipdog From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7221 times:

That was pretty good CALM. Mostly cows,tobacco and especially country music here. I just cannot see the draw from the Asian market, but you guys know better. TBO, there is a growing Taiwanese and Chinese community here, due to the Universities. I really do not mind changing planes at a real airport to get overseas.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7145 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
So Nissan moves their HQ to the Music City, and all of the sudden they think they can support Tokyo flights. Can't beat them down for dreaming, but I really hope they don't waste time trying to sell this idea, which just isn't going to work:

Hey now, Mark, this might make more sense than the BNA-BDA flights they wanted last year. It's good to see that their airport has such, er, grand ambitions.

Hey, maybe that's the angle for their new service. They'll get an airline to corner the lucrative Tokyo-Bermuda market by providing one-stop service over Nashville.  Silly



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7123 times:

I hear there is a big Tennessean population in Chiba.  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineReins485 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

I dont think BNA will get the flight, a few years ago AA had a BNA-LGW flight, but there wasnt the demand for it. I think it might be possible down the raod, once the 787 rolls out. It depends on how fast Nashville and the suronding areas continue to grow. I have seen the place grow extremelly fast in the last 10 years and not seen a lot of evidence slowing it down. And more companies are moving hqs there because the state has no income tax. Thats why I am saying down the road there might be a flight.

25 MSYtristar : The problem is feed. O&D alone (plus the Nissan traffic) could not justify a nonstop flight in the market. I could easily see something like BNA-FRA o
26 Carpethead : Nissan should buy a Global Express or GV, so if the big wigs are complaining about lack of non-stop flights. There is also the problem with slots at b
27 Mir : There will be a nonstop BNA-NRT flight. It'll just be flown with a Global Express or G550, and not open to the general public. -Mir
28 EMBQA : I doubt that as well... If they fly from any place it will be MQV which is closer to where they are building their new headquarters
29 Post contains images Misbeehavin : ROTFLMAFO!
30 Cubsrule : A more interesting question might be whether the Nissan relocation will result in any other service. Due to the music industry, there's already a dece
31 Post contains images N353SK : There's a Nissan Factory a few miles north of Jackson, MS. I guess somebody should start a JAN-NRT flight because of all that demand
32 Post contains images DAL767400ER : For that matter, I still wonder why Korean hasn't started ICN-MGM yet, given the huge plant Hyundai has built there .
33 Post contains links and images B764 : I agree with DAL767400ER, they should get an ACJ or BBJ to fly this route. Otherwise Nissan would have to subsidize the route similar to AA's London r
34 PavlovsDog : How about a 747-300 or 400 cargo conversion with the upper deck in an all-business class configuration? I imagine the cargo volume on the route could
35 Post contains images B764 : Well I stand corrected. N155AN recently completed a journey KBNA-RJTT (6,669 great circle miles) non-stop.
36 Post contains images Mattbna : The new headquarters is going to be in Cool Springs - although Nissan's plant is in Smyrna (MQY)... I can see it now.....they'll be putting a private
37 AvConsultant : Toyota did the samething in CVG years ago. Exactly!!
38 Cubsrule : Now that 840 is open, Cool Springs to Smyrna... they could probably just base birds at MQY. (Actually, Highway 96 isn't a bad drive either, and then
39 FlyCMH : I can't blame BNA for aiming high, however even with Nissan's new facilities in the area and the increase in commerse to the Land of the Rising Sun, I
40 Doona : Actually, fly to ARN, and you still have a good 45 minute flight to the IKEA headquarters. Better to go to CPH and take the train :P Cheers Mats
41 Post contains images Riyadhnurse : Everyone in the southeast knows that dead or alive,one is always routed thru ATL!
42 Garnetpalmetto : How's the market compare to RDU with our RDU-LGW flight on AA subsidized by GlaxoSmithKline?
43 777-200 : But the Southeast Asian population in Southwestern Ohio is huge, dunno if its big enough to facilitate a flight to Tokyo, but its probably alot large
44 SLCUT2777 : Nashville will end up just like SJC, a big money loser and they will pull the route before it starts. Somebodies big ego in wanting this one.
45 Post contains images Rdu777 : Thing is with RDU-LGW it isn't only subsidized by Glaxo. It has other large companies in RTP and the surrounding area that help. I know that a long ti
46 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Nissan? Toyota? No you fools. The Japanese are huge fans of Dolly Parton, and there will be A380 loads of them coming ... direct flights Tokyo / Nashv
47 MDW22L31C : With Nissan's HQ now in Nashville makes sense.
48 Worldjet777 : It does seem rather far fetched for scheduled service, but something like a weekly charter with domestic feed could run successfully. The loads coming
49 BNAtraveler : Based on my username, you'll certainly know I'm biased. BNA gets a daily (or 5x) 747-400 cargo from China Airways. Often that flight is n/s from TPE,
50 EMBQA : Always ANC... Never non-stop.
51 IcLCY : Don't forget 'DOLLYWOOD' Ms Parton is massive in japan(no chuckles from the back thank you)
52 EMBQA : Sorry... Dollywood is long gone. It's a shopping center now. She did open a new place in the far eastern part of the state, but ATL is way closer to
53 Sllevin : I have to agree... I think we could make a far better case for SJC-NRT and SJC-TPE, yet the former is finally closing down, and the latter never real
54 IcLCY : Long gone? why are they still open & taking bookings through their website?? I've had tickets booked through the dollywood.com website for late Augus
55 EMBQA : As I said, she opened a new place in the far eastern part of the state, about 3 or 4 hours from BNA, closer to 6 if the traffic is heavy. The one in
56 Post contains images Antoniemey : I think you're thinking of Opryland. That had very little to do with Dolly.
57 EMBQA : No.. where the Opry Mills Mall now is, was I'm told a Dollywood.[Edited 2006-06-20 02:46:29]
58 Cubsrule : TRI is closer to YYZ than to MEM...
59 CIDflyer : That is correct. Dollywood was never in Nashville. Opryland was in Nashville, and was replaced with the Opry Mills mega mall.
60 Mariner : I've been going to Gatlinburg since 1988, and Dollywood was always there. I could be wrong, but I've never heard of another Dollywood in Nashville. m
61 StarCityFlyr : Having lived in Nashville for almost ten years.... (and glad to say I'm no longer there) I wish I could buy that city for what its worth and sell it f
62 Thomasphoto60 : I don't know, you might want to try Dallas or Atlanta for big egos. Thomas
63 Post contains images StarCityFlyr : Having spent a lot of time in both, I think Nashville still comes out on top. They don't call it the home of "High Hair" for nothing. All that hair h
64 EMBQA : Trust me, it's getting FAR bigger mention on this one thread then it did on the news that night. I was mistaken... I could swear someone told me she
65 DAL767400ER : Off-topic, but Opryland is gone? Does that include the hotel complex with the rain forest-type interior?
66 Post contains images Antoniemey : I lived in BNA the last 8 years and never heard it called that. The Metro government is rather crappy, but the people there are mostly really nice. A
67 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Phew, good to know. Only been there once, but always wanted to get back some time. Oh well, if it were torn down, there's still the Opryland Orlando
68 Flyboeingjets : BNA's Narita service is called the first morning Delta departure to ATL connecting to DL 55, departing at 1030. CMHs Narita service, likewise, is the
69 Post contains images EMBQA : If you want a real nice time take your date/wife/girlfriend to the Sunday Breakfast Buffet. It's expensive... but very romantic and held in the green
70 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Thanks for the idea, though there are currently 2 things that keep me from trying that out: 1) Serious lack of money 2) Serious lack of a girlfriend
71 Post contains images Antoniemey : I had both of those problems up until 5 months ago... now I just have the former problem. If I get the job I'm hoping for up here in ExpressJet as CO
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