Heathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
why hasn't Virgin Atlantic joined any alliance? Of course I'd want to see them in oneworld, but I know that's completely uneconomical. I think Star Or Sky would be a good choice for them. They have codeshares with JM, BD, CO, and HP, so it's a tough call. What do you think?
Piercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2322 times:
IIRC, it's not in their business plan. Although you get a lot of connections through an alliance, you also have to have airlines codeshare and all that stuff. Also VS is, in theory, an all international carrier and would be an awful fit for any alliance.
Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
Heathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 1): Also VS is, in theory, an all international carrier and would be an awful fit for any alliance.
Yeah I supose you're right, but they might be something TUI would go after? I just thought with them mostly being owned by SQ, it would make sense that they followed in with star, or with their connections sky.
Willyj From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2198 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 1): IIRC, it's not in their business plan. Although you get a lot of connections through an alliance, you also have to have airlines codeshare and all that stuff. Also VS is, in theory, an all international carrier and would be an awful fit for any alliance.
I would think they would be very attractive to Star or Skyteam due to their location. Longhaul flights out of LHR - hello!?! What alliance (aside from oneworld) wouldn't love that? With that said, I agree that due to their connections with SQ, Star would be the most likely.
Due to the fact that VS is only long-haul, I would think they would want to join an alliance for the connections within Europe, the US, and all the other places they fly...
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4830 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
Quoting Willyj (Reply 3): would think they would be very attractive to Star or Skyteam due to their location. Longhaul flights out of LHR - hello!?! What alliance (aside from oneworld) wouldn't love that? With that said, I agree that due to their connections with SQ, Star would be the most likely.
Yeah they would be a good fit into Star Alliance. SQ owns 49% of VS so they shouldn't have a problem with them joining (although aparently they are cold on the idea for some reason?). It is however LH which is anti VS joining Star...
NZ would support VS joining I'm sure...they have a good relationship with each other.
UAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2061 times:
I think theres more chance of LH, joining Oneworld than VS.........its never going to happen unless of course they were bought by another Oneworld Carrier. It seems that VS is happy to go it alone and create Virgin Brands all over the world........hats off to them if you ask me.
WunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 5): I'm surprised, however, that being part owned by Singapore hasn't pulled the into Star.
What I find even more surprising is that their Kangaroo route goes via HKG and not SIN. I know LHR-HKG-SYD is slightly shorter than LHR-SIN-SYD, but if they have those code share agreements with SQ, wouldn't it be more logical to have a mini-hub in SIN?
I think SQ might not want the competition! And if VS can do well out of HKG, seems silly to move to SIN and compete head-on with one of the world's best carriers which also owns almost half your stock.
VS and DJ codeshare/will codeshare on flights. VS will put their code on DJ services from SYD, and DJ will put their code on SYD-HKG-LHR flights. I remember reading a VS press release which said they had asked Navitaire to make VS and DJ reservation systems compatible to allow through ticketing and check-in.
Here is the press release:
Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Blue Announce Code Share Using Revolutionary Technology
Navitaire Helps Airlines Link Reservation Systems
Brisbane, 15 June 2005: Six months following the high-profile launch of its inaugural flight to Australia, Sir Richard Branson's International airline, Virgin Atlantic, has teamed up with Australian sister airline Virgin Blue in a much anticipated code share effective from 17 July 2005.
In keeping with both Virgin airlines' history of innovation, the code share is possible due to a world first technology breakthrough. The IT teams of Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Blue and Navitaire will roll out new codeshare technology successfully linking the unique Navitaire 'Open Skies' reservations system utilised by Virgin Blue and many of the world's low cost carriers with the more complex traditional reservations system used by Virgin Atlantic.
The development allows Virgin Atlantic, which currently flies daily from Sydney to Hong Kong and London, to extend its offering - through a code share service operated by Virgin Blue - to Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Cairns, Gold Coast and Coolangatta. Guests flying on both award-winning airlines will benefit from being able to:
-Travel to, from and within Australia on a single Virgin Atlantic code on designated services.
-Enjoy smooth and hassle free domestic and international connections between the two award-winning Virgin airlines, be it for inbound tourists wanting to travel to some of Australia's stunning destinations or Australian's keen to experience Hong Kong and London and beyond.
-Seamlessly book both their Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Blue flights at the same time via Virgin Atlantic reservations, removing the complicated process of multi-booking for various domestic and international flights.