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Who Will Handle Jet Airways' New Flight To LHR?  
User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5125 times:

As some of you may know, Jet Airways (9W) have announced a new six weekly flight from London to Amritsar (ATQ). However unlike its double daily LHR-BOM and daily LHR-DEL flights, the Amritsar flights will operate from Terminal 4, not Terminal 3.

If I'm not mistaken, United Airlines provide full ground handling to Jet Airways at Heathrow. However with LHR-ATQ operating from Terminal 4, who will provide handling for this flight?

Will UA continue to provide handling by sending staff to T4 for this flight, or will British Airways or KLM provide handling (as they are the only two airlines that provide ground handling for the other airlines in Terminal 4, e.g. BA handle UL and KL handle KQ).

Finally, if UA do not provide handling for this flight, will 9W be the only airline at LHR with different ground handlers for different flights?

Thanks

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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1870 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5124 times:
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I think that UA will handle the flight at both terminals. At JFK jetBlue operates from Terminal 6 & 4 do you think that because it is another terminal that they would contract it out. No they just send a crew over there to do the flight.


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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

When is this service starting??


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9608 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 1):
I think that UA will handle the flight at both terminals. At JFK jetBlue operates from Terminal 6 & 4 do you think that because it is another terminal that they would contract it out. No they just send a crew over there to do the flight.

But terminal 4 is so far from the main United operations. Could it be that United doesn't operate any flights at that time of day and therefore will not provide ground handling? The London-Amritsar is an overnight flight and departs at 9:30pm, which is well after the last United flight of the day. One of the flights to BOM also leaves at a similar time. Does United handle that flight?



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User currently offlineLondonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

united operate ground handling till late at night for the other airlines it handles like EK and 9W it doesnt matter that their ops have finished the staff are still there.

The rumours we have heard are KLM but then I can see us herded over there...ah well makes a change from zone b T3!  Wink


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1870 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5059 times:
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Put it this way if you have a contract to handle a airline. No matter where or when thier flight comes to the airport you handle you handle the airline


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User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5053 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
But terminal 4 is so far from the main United operations.

That is what I was thinking.

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 2):
When is this service starting??

Next Wednesday (28 June)

Quoting Londonlady71 (Reply 4):
The rumours we have heard are KLM but then I can see us herded over there...ah well makes a change from zone b T3!

It is a shame that Jet can't consolidate all its operations in Terminal 3. Does anyone know the reason why it will be split - is T3 really that busy in the evenings? Also, is it not expensive for Jet to have a two terminal operation at LHR, considering they will only have 4 flights a day!


User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

Yeah when is it startingg and do you know the equipment used, time of arrival at LHR etc? If there is a thread, please direct me to it.
Thank you very much.



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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

I'd have thought it'd be very impractical to move equipment across from T3 to T4, bearing in mind much of it would have to go across runway 27L/09R... Tugs, FMCs, etc. can't go through the airside tunnel at LHR, I believe.

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 7):
Lazyshaun

*Introducing the only NON-STOP flight between Amritsar and London, starting June 28, 2006.

Amritsar (ATQ) - London (LHR)
9W124 Amritsar 1300 London 1740 (Monday & Thursday)
9W124 Amritsar 1350 London 1830 (Wednesday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday)

London (LHR)-Amritsar (ATQ)
9W123 London 2135 Amritsar 1030 (Mon, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat & Sun)

All flights operated by a 767-300ER.

*Jet Airways


User currently offlineLondonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4875 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 6):
It is a shame that Jet can't consolidate all its operations in Terminal 3. Does anyone know the reason why it will be split - is T3 really that busy in the evenings? Also, is it not expensive for Jet to have a two terminal operation at LHR, considering they will only have 4 flights a day!

yes T3 is very busy in the evenings...very very busy! plus as well united will be handling 2 flights for them at that time anyways.

I dont think that jet have enough staff to be honest to be in two terminals but we will see. I asked today and it is KLM handling them.


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

There is no way UA will handle a flight in T4, the airline would have to pay silly money to UA to even consider it....not going to happen!

User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4787 times:

I think they will have to use one of the handling companies already in T4. Aviance had this problem when Air Sahara moved terminals, and ended up loosing the contract as they could not get a handling license for T4. I'm sure UA will have the same problem - the BAA won't normally give out a license for a 1/day flight operation in a different terminal to the one where a handler is normally based. Globe Ground had that problem too when SAA wished to move to them a couple of years back, they could not get a license to operate out of T1 and that was a 3/day operation !!.

T4 is almost like a totally different airport from the terminals within the central area.

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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

I take it Jet wil aim to consolidate flights in one Terminal as soon as they can?


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1870 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4742 times:
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Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 8):
I'd have thought it'd be very impractical to move equipment across from T3 to T4, bearing in mind much of it would have to go across runway 27L/09R... Tugs, FMCs, etc. can't go through the airside tunnel at LHR, I believe.

So i assume that T4 has no ground equipment at thier gates



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User currently offlineZamaria From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 9):
All flights operated by a 767-300ER.

Is this the Air Sahara 767?

-Z


User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4723 times:

Quoting Londonlady71 (Reply 10):
Londonlady71

Thanks for your answer.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 14):
So i assume that T4 has no ground equipment at thier gates

T4 has alot of ground equipment, but none of it belongs to UA!

Quoting Zamaria (Reply 15):
Is this the Air Sahara 767?

It looks like it. I think the aircraft is now in Jet Airways' livery, or is in the process of being repainted.

But if rumours of the 9W / S2 merger falling through are true, Jet will have to operate this flight with one of their new A330s.

Incidentally, the banner on 9Ws website advertising this flight has dissappeared - though it is still bookable.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4633 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 16):
ut if rumours of the 9W / S2 merger falling through are true, Jet will have to operate this flight with one of their new A330s.

The Deal is Off.
regds
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User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 17):
The Deal is Off.
regds
MEL

Does this mean LHR-ATQ will not happen, or will it just mean 9W will operate it with one of their new A332s?


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 18):
Does this mean LHR-ATQ will not happen, or will it just mean 9W will operate it with one of their new A332s

9W & S2 will operate as seperate Airlines as Before.
regds
MEL



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