Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3367 times:
As some of you may know, Jet Airways (9W) have announced a new six weekly flight from London to Amritsar (ATQ). However unlike its double daily LHR-BOM and daily LHR-DEL flights, the Amritsar flights will operate from Terminal 4, not Terminal 3.
If I'm not mistaken, United Airlines provide full ground handling to Jet Airways at Heathrow. However with LHR-ATQ operating from Terminal 4, who will provide handling for this flight?
Will UA continue to provide handling by sending staff to T4 for this flight, or will British Airways or KLM provide handling (as they are the only two airlines that provide ground handling for the other airlines in Terminal 4, e.g. BA handle UL and KL handle KQ).
Finally, if UA do not provide handling for this flight, will 9W be the only airline at LHR with different ground handlers for different flights?
FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3366 times:
I think that UA will handle the flight at both terminals. At JFK jetBlue operates from Terminal 6 & 4 do you think that because it is another terminal that they would contract it out. No they just send a crew over there to do the flight.
BritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3345 times:
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3331 times:
Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 1): I think that UA will handle the flight at both terminals. At JFK jetBlue operates from Terminal 6 & 4 do you think that because it is another terminal that they would contract it out. No they just send a crew over there to do the flight.
But terminal 4 is so far from the main United operations. Could it be that United doesn't operate any flights at that time of day and therefore will not provide ground handling? The London-Amritsar is an overnight flight and departs at 9:30pm, which is well after the last United flight of the day. One of the flights to BOM also leaves at a similar time. Does United handle that flight?
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Londonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3323 times:
united operate ground handling till late at night for the other airlines it handles like EK and 9W it doesnt matter that their ops have finished the staff are still there.
The rumours we have heard are KLM but then I can see us herded over there...ah well makes a change from zone b T3!
FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3301 times:
Put it this way if you have a contract to handle a airline. No matter where or when thier flight comes to the airport you handle you handle the airline
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3295 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3): But terminal 4 is so far from the main United operations.
Quoting Londonlady71 (Reply 4): The rumours we have heard are KLM but then I can see us herded over there...ah well makes a change from zone b T3!
It is a shame that Jet can't consolidate all its operations in Terminal 3. Does anyone know the reason why it will be split - is T3 really that busy in the evenings? Also, is it not expensive for Jet to have a two terminal operation at LHR, considering they will only have 4 flights a day!
Lazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 545 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
Yeah when is it startingg and do you know the equipment used, time of arrival at LHR etc? If there is a thread, please direct me to it.
Thank you very much.
LeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
I'd have thought it'd be very impractical to move equipment across from T3 to T4, bearing in mind much of it would have to go across runway 27L/09R... Tugs, FMCs, etc. can't go through the airside tunnel at LHR, I believe.
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3265 times:
Londonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3117 times:
Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 6): It is a shame that Jet can't consolidate all its operations in Terminal 3. Does anyone know the reason why it will be split - is T3 really that busy in the evenings? Also, is it not expensive for Jet to have a two terminal operation at LHR, considering they will only have 4 flights a day!
yes T3 is very busy in the evenings...very very busy! plus as well united will be handling 2 flights for them at that time anyways.
I dont think that jet have enough staff to be honest to be in two terminals but we will see. I asked today and it is KLM handling them.
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3029 times:
I think they will have to use one of the handling companies already in T4. Aviance had this problem when Air Sahara moved terminals, and ended up loosing the contract as they could not get a handling license for T4. I'm sure UA will have the same problem - the BAA won't normally give out a license for a 1/day flight operation in a different terminal to the one where a handler is normally based. Globe Ground had that problem too when SAA wished to move to them a couple of years back, they could not get a license to operate out of T1 and that was a 3/day operation !!.
T4 is almost like a totally different airport from the terminals within the central area.
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FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2984 times:
Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 8): I'd have thought it'd be very impractical to move equipment across from T3 to T4, bearing in mind much of it would have to go across runway 27L/09R... Tugs, FMCs, etc. can't go through the airside tunnel at LHR, I believe.
So i assume that T4 has no ground equipment at thier gates
Zamaria From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 82 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2875 times:
Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 16): ut if rumours of the 9W / S2 merger falling through are true, Jet will have to operate this flight with one of their new A330s.
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2862 times:
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