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Why No SAN-RNO N/S?  
User currently offlineAdipasqu From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 238 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Why doesn't any carrier operate SAN-RNO non-stop? I realize neither are really any kind of hub, but with all the surfers/snowboarders, not to mention all the other amenities the Greater Reno/Lake Tahoe area, I would think at least WN and UA (maybe AS) would have at least a couple each. Any thoughts?


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4060 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Quoting Adipasqu (Thread starter):
Why doesn't any carrier operate SAN-RNO non-stop?

This would strictly be an O&D flight, and the numbers for such a route just don't add up. So your best hope is a single stop through LAX, LAS, PHX, SFO or SLC so others from other origins can make flying into RNO worth it.



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User currently offlineAdipasqu From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
This would strictly be an O&D flight

Not necessarily, WN could use it to connect to other flights out of RNO. There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
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Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
Not necessarily, WN could use it to connect to other flights out of RNO.

WN's RNO operations are pretty limited to shorter flights that can be reached via SJC, LAS, PHX etc. already.

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...

I think it could be done with one daily 737, however they might have bigger fish to fry in other cities.



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1731 times:

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...

455 O & D pax a day seems like enough to justify a non-stop.



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

SWA did try this not too long ago, both SAN and BUR were tried as Sat only nonstop flights. After that, Aloha did operate the route and it was so so at first to poor in the end. Not like their SNA-RNO route that does much better.

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 3):
I think it could be done with one daily 737, however they might have bigger fish to fry in other cities.

With all the planes they are taking delivery of, they may soon run out of those bigger fish. If what Flyboy says is true, that's very strange as you would think at least half those O&D pax would opt for the quickest and cheapest fare SAN-RNO, and with SAN being a major WN station it seems even more strange as I would think they would have a loyal customer base there.

I don't see any other airline trying it as a nonstop flight. UA is too entrenched at LAX and has bigger issues to address, and AS/QX are also working on building up LAX as a major hub.


User currently offlineLindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 1670 times:
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Perhaps the 737 is too large for the route. A 717, EMB-170, EMB-190, or Dash 8-400 might work a bit better...

User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Seems like a perfect route for QX when the new 8-400's start arriving.

User currently offlineAdipasqu From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 8):
Seems like a perfect route for QX when the new 8-400's start arriving.

I agree! The Q400 would be perfect for this route...not to mention many other intra-California hops as well.



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