KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33 Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3153 times:
Hmm...Might be a great weekend for a road trip
"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3120 times:
I'm going to all of the races & am hoping I can get out to spot at least one day while I'm there.
NASCARAirForce- Any idea which day most of the traffic will be coming in? I'd imagine it would be Wednesday or Thursday, but I hadn't paid too much attention in the past when I'd been there for the 400. Cheney & AF2 would probably be in & out on Saturday like Bush with AF1 in 2004 for the 500.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3096 times:
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 1): Hmm...Might be a great weekend for a road trip
The only problem is really the only places to spot there is the Embry Riddle South lot, and that is if they are arriving on 25R that day. On the day of the race they have people checking for school IDs, however I probably can get people in. Since it is an aviation school they allow people to use the lot to aircraft spot, they are just worried about people parking in the lot for the races.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3090 times:
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 2): NASCARAirForce- Any idea which day most of the traffic will be coming in? I'd imagine it would be Wednesday or Thursday, but I hadn't paid too much attention in the past when I'd been there for the 400. Cheney & AF2 would probably be in & out on Saturday like Bush with AF1 in 2004 for the 500.
This is what happened last year
Wednesday - the personal crew transports come in ie Roush 727s, Hendrick Saabs etc drop off their crew, usually take back off head back to JQF and other locations. Charter jets - carrying teams that can't afford their own plane like Hendrick, Roush, RCR, Earnhart etc
Thursday - more of the same
Friday - transports, and charters arrive for the Busche race, corporate sponsors and bigwigs coming to see the Busche race. Military jets arrive for the flybys for next two days. Departure of transports and personal jets after race
Saturday (by far busiest day)- Race starts usually at 8pm, but last two years started later due to storms. There is traffic all day for the race, but the bulk starts arriving around 1pm in a steady stream
On Saturday you will see the team transports, individual driver aircraft, sponsors, private and big wigs, then Air Force 2 will arrive probably about 5p-6p. Before the race itself starts, the military jets depart for the flyby.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3062 times:
I'd imagine you could see when most of the commercial & GA traffic would be on the way on FlightAware, but is there any way of finding out in advance when the military traffic would exactly be getting into DAB?
Off topic, the B-1s that came in last year left Sunday night instead of after the race. Loudest takeoff I've heard in my life!
KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3028 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 3): On the day of the race they have people checking for school IDs, however I probably can get people in.
I appreciate the offer, but see my profile
"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2954 times:
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 5): I'd imagine you could see when most of the commercial & GA traffic would be on the way on FlightAware, but is there any way of finding out in advance when the military traffic would exactly be getting into DAB?
Since I work at DAB I usually get somewhat of a heads up as to when abouts they will be there from Operations, but they don't know exactly when. Last year I was working inside the airport watching a Lockheed Jetstar land when I was waiting for it to taxiback 2 A-10s came in. Later that day I saw the F-15s come in.
However, there is nothing online that I am aware of that tracks military movements.
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 5): Off topic, the B-1s that came in last year left Sunday night instead of after the race. Loudest takeoff I've heard in my life!
Yeah they did leave late afternoon seperate. No B-1s this year, possibly after the incident at the Daytona 500 this year when one blew out its tires landing, forcing the Air Force to bring an extra in so that there were three B-1s on the ground taking up valuable parking space.
However, I think Rick Hendrick's Stage 1 I believe G-2 may have gave the B-1 competition on take off earlier that day as it shook my truck as I was driving. It left more smoke than the B-1 also.
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 5): I appreciate the offer, but see my profile
Oh cool, were you at the Pepsi 400 last year? Again though I hope the trip isn't wasted if they are using 7L for departure. However, during the mass departures after the race lets out Saturday night/early Sunday morning you are likely to see some low/late departures since a good section of Taxiway November is closed - like maybe 2000 feet on the west end forcing aircraft departing on 7L to not be able to make a full take off. However, some of the bigger jets like our daily MD-80s etc backtaxi on the runway.
Then again, lets all pray for West winds so we can see the arrivals from the Riddle South Lot.
FCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
I work for a Rolex Sports Car Series team, and we race on Thursday night. I'll be coming into DAB on Monday on a United/Mesa CRJ and leaving on another United/Mesa CRJ on Friday morning.
USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2897 times:
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 8): I work for a Rolex Sports Car Series team, and we race on Thursday night. I'll be coming into DAB on Monday on a United/Mesa CRJ and leaving on another United/Mesa CRJ on Friday morning
I'm not really familiar with the Rolex series. Do any of the teams have their own planes or charter them?
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 7): Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 5):
I appreciate the offer, but see my profile
Oh cool, were you at the Pepsi 400 last year? Again though I hope the trip isn't wasted if they are using 7L for departure. However, during the mass departures after the race lets out Saturday night/early Sunday morning you are likely to see some low/late departures since a good section of Taxiway November is closed - like maybe 2000 feet on the west end forcing aircraft departing on 7L to not be able to make a full take off. However, some of the bigger jets like our daily MD-80s etc backtaxi on the runway.
Then again, lets all pray for West winds so we can see the arrivals from the Riddle South Lot.
KFLLCFII posted the thing about looking at his profile, not me.
I probably won't spot on Saturday, as I'll be at the race & my dad & I are thinking about going to the new FanZone thing in the infield before it starts. I really hope they're using 25R the other days, though, as I'll probably go to ERAU's parking lot if the weather's good. If you take shots throughout the day from Riddle's lot, will they come out OK or will it be too hazy?
I was at the race last year & remember hearing the seemingly endless departures after the 400, which was cool. I take a scanner to listen to the cars during the race & walking back, I switched it to the air band & listened to the tower.
FCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2871 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 9): I'm not really familiar with the Rolex series. Do any of the teams have their own planes or charter them?
Not that I know of - the dollars involved in this series are much, much smaller than NASCAR and there are only 14 races as opposed to nearly 40, so the economics of commercial travel aren't so bad.
You might, however, see a couple more Ganassi planes as he campaigns a team in the series. Also, several other team owners are independently wealthy and may arrive in their private jets. The crews in this series pretty much all travel on commercial airlines.
USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 8): I work for a Rolex Sports Car Series team, and we race on Thursday night. I'll be coming into DAB on Monday on a United/Mesa CRJ and leaving on another United/Mesa CRJ on Friday morning.
That's awesome. I like the Rolex races & think they're fun to watch & the Brumos Porsche 250 is my dad's favorite race of the Pepsi 400 week.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 11): KFLLCFII posted the thing about looking at his profile, not me.
Yeah I know, it just copied wrong.
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 11): If you take shots throughout the day from Riddle's lot, will they come out OK or will it be too hazy?
I am not sure in the middle of the day such as around noon, but I started taking pictures around 2pm or so and the pictures were coming out really good even for my old camera, which was a Nikon point and click type. The haze hasn't been too bad lately since all or most of the brush fires are out. You could always get a haze filter too, they are relatively cheap I believe. I got one for free thrown in with a camera case and extra battery when I bought my Canon.
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 12): You might, however, see a couple more Ganassi planes as he campaigns a team in the series. Also, several other team owners are independently wealthy and may arrive in their private jets. The crews in this series pretty much all travel on commercial airlines.
Ganassi has a Dornier 328 that he takes his crews around in plus his own Learjet. I figure before the race we will see crews coming and going anyway from the NASCAR guys. I assume some bigwigs might fly in for the Rolex. During the Rolex 24 in Speedweek we usually see a couple Piaggios fly in, and some other jets that we don't see during the NASCAR races.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
When Cheney goes places, is there a motorcade of any sorts therefore there being a cargo plane accompanying Air Force 2? When Bush came to the Daytona 500 a couple years back a C-5 came with Air Force 1.
I was wondering if something like a C-130 or C-17 would come in bringing in the limos and stuff
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2680 times:
Actually to answer my own question, I got word that a C-17 will be bringing in the limos and stuff, most likely the day before. It would probably then leave the day after the race.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2571 times:
Here is an updated list of the aircraft involved with NASCAR with registrations.
Cessna Citation:
Cessna 525:
N606JR Jack Roush (owner Roush Racing)
N6M Mark Martin
N535GH Haas Racing Gene Haas
N31JB Jeff Burton
Cessna 550:
N500TS True Speed Enterprises Tony Stewart
N1WB Ward Burton
N400RE Everham Motorsports Ray Everham
N999EA Ernie Elliot Inc Ernie Elliot
N187JN Nemco Motorsports Joe Nemechek
N500PX Phoenix Investment James Finch Phoenix Motorsports
C650
N88DJ: Dale Jarrett
N100R NASCAR (based out of DAB)
C750
N500N NASCAR (Brian France’s personal jet)
N585N Menard Air Paul Menard
Lear 25:
N19JM BH Jr. Motorsports Bobby Hamilton Jr.
N127BH BH Jr. Motorsports Bobby Hamilton Jr.
N606GB New World Racing
N444TG Gaines Motorlines (not sure which driver, but always seen at NASCAR
events)
Lear 31:
N229KD Kevin Harvick
N480JJ Jimmy Johnson
N500RW Diamond Aviation Rusty Wallace
N500WR Diamond Aviation Rusty Wallace
N1DE Champion Air Earnhart Inc
N518JG Joe Gibbs Racing
N18BL Bobby Labonte (believed to be sold)
N900R NASCAR
N131BR DH Motorsports
Lear 35:
N996CR Champion Racing Earnhart Inc
Lear 45:
N500CG Tessa 2 Inc Chip Ganassi
Lear 55
N996CR Champion Air Earnhart Inc
Lear 60
N500RP Penske Racing
N502RP Penske
N504RP Penske
N8JR Dale Earnhart Jr.
N500RH (G3) Hendrick Motorsports
N60PT (G4) Penske Racing
Hawker Jets
N24JG (800A) Jeff Gordon
N3RC (700A) Richard Childress
N514AJ (600A) A,J. Foyt
N700R (800XP) NASCAR
N800R (800XP) NASCAR
Boeing 727-100
N502MG Roush Racing
N503MG Roush Racing
N504MG Roush Racing (hasn’t been seen at races, might be parts plane)
Beech 400
N400RY Robert Yates
Westwind
N43RP Richard Petty
Sabreliner
N499NH Newman Racing
Turboprops
Saab 2000
N508RH Hendrick Motorsports
N509RH Hendrick Motorsports
N511RH Hendrick Motorsports
N519JG Joe Gibbs Racing
G159: Gulfstream 1:
N520JG Joe Gibbs
Embraer 120:
N109EM Evernham Motorsports
N919EM Evernham Motorsports
N22BD Bill Davis Racing
N223BD Bill Davis Racing
N138DE Champion Air (Dale Earnhart Inc)
N500DE Champion air (Dale Earnhart Inc)
N388JR JRM Air (Dale Jr.)
N221CR RCR Racing (Richard Childress)
N229CR RCR Racing (Richard Childress)
N331CR RCR Racing (Richard Childress)
N16731 Dogleg Transportation (Michael Waltrip)
Beech 1900C:
N412CM Profile Aviation (Casey Mears)
N413CM Profile Aviation (Casey Mears)
N60GH Haas CNC racing (Gene Haas)
N23BD Bill Davis Racing
N504RH Hendrick Motorsports
N505RH Hendrick Motorsports
Dornier 328
N503CG Sabco Racing (Chip Ganassi)
MU-2
N12RA Bh Jr. Motorsports (Bobby Hamilton)
N1727S Bobby Hamilton
Beech King Airs
N500MS (E90) Mike Skinner
N207SB (100) Ken Schrader
N27CS (100) Profile Aviation (Casey Mears)
N919RE (200) Everham Motorsports
N3DE (200) Champion Air (Earnhart Inc.)
N711MZ (200) Champion Air (Earnhart Inc.)
N3CR (200) RCR Racing (Richard Childress)
N500KS (200) Ken Schrader
N200BR (200) B and R Motorsports
N6UD (200) Braun Racing
N101CS (200) Profile Aviation (Casey Mears)
N501RH (200) Hendrick Motorsports
N300R (300) NASCAR Inc.
N141SM (300) Jimmy Spencer
N1MW (300) Dog Leg Transportation (Michael Waltrip)
N28RY (300) Robert Yates Racing
N38RY (300) Robert Yates Racing
N88RY (300) Robert Yates Racing
N38H (300) Kasey Kahne
N8116N (300) Hardy Boys Motorsports
Xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2345 posts, RR: 52 Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
Since I am also a Riddle student, I could possibly get a few more people in as well. Let me know what I can do and perhaps we could have a mini-meet :-P
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3083 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2374 times:
One of the Hendrick Saab 2000 pilots came to the 3rd floor of the COA balcony. He flew in N509RH. I believe he is an ex Riddle student. I had to ask him about the fleet changes at Hendrick since I noticed that there are less Beech 1900s and the G-2 is gone. He said they are getting rid of the 1900s and are in the process of adding a fourth Saab.
On a side note, I see we have Daimler Chrysler's new Global Express coming in this afternoon around 4:30pm
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