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Antonov 225 Contrailing (Very Cool Pic!)  
User currently offlineJepstein From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16543 times:

I thought this was a very amazing pic. I had started a thread a while ago asking if the An 225 contrailed, and now I finally have my answer.   


http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=416252

Here's another: http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=190098

[Edited 2006-06-23 03:20:40]

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16503 times:

That sure is a unique contrail.  Smile

Harry



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User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16316 times:

Pretty cool. Too bad there are not more of those cruising the skies.  wideeyed 

User currently offlineAmerican777 From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 16056 times:

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 2):
Too bad there are not more of those cruising the skies.

What happened to the sole aircraft that was flying?

JOE.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15866 times:

Quoting American777 (Reply 3):
What happened to the sole aircraft that was flying?

It's still flying revenue cargo flights through Antonov for many carriers on a charter basis. However, there was another one to be built, but it's never been completed.


User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 15693 times:

Big version: Width: 1248 Height: 972 File size: 107kb
AN-225 taxi's to departure at JFK, 14th Sept 2003



Here it is at JFK



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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15146 times:

why not just use the 225 as an airliner lol?

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14952 times:

CF188A, the hull is only partly pressurized if I recall right. there´s place for 80
people on top deck I think?


User currently offlineDavidrdh From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14828 times:

Put an extra floor in and several hundred seats convert to 4 Trent 1000s, might be out before the A380!  Smile lol. What would it look like in QF livery!

User currently offlineJbmflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14200 times:

Perhaps a silly question, but is the 225 the only aircraft flying today with 6 turbofan engines on it other than the B-52 which doesnt count in my opinion  Smile

Sometimes looking at that plane it just looks..........odd, like there is editing to the picture to add the extra engine on each wing. Still a great looking aircraft in my opinion though.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14141 times:
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My question is how do you push with the dual nose gear?


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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14066 times:

Quoting Jbmflyer (Reply 9):
Perhaps a silly question, but is the 225 the only aircraft flying today with 6 turbofan engines on it other than the B-52 which doesnt count in my opinion

B-52 has eight.



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User currently offlineJbmflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14066 times:

Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 11):

B-52 has eight.

Yeah, should have rephrased that. I meant to say 6 or more which is where the B-52 comes in. Sorry



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User currently offlineDanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13521 times:

Any news about the second AN225 ?

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13521 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 7):
CF188A, the hull is only partly pressurized if I recall right. there´s place for 80
people on top deck I think?

Pretty sure the lower deck is pressurised, because they can carry livestock down there.


User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13384 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 10):
My question is how do you push with the dual nose gear?

There is a special tow-bar. The Antonov 124 also has dual nose-gear...



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User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12678 times:
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Quoting Danimarroquin (Reply 13):
Any news about the second AN225 ?

So far, it appears to be half-complete, though the following pic is 2 years old:

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Ignatiy Savranskiy


But then again, there haven't been any news on any new progress, so we can only guess at the state she's in...



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User currently offlineComet4b From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12621 times:

The 225 was built to carry the Russian shuttle which is approximately the same size as the US shuttle.Why does the 225 need 6 engines whereas the US one is carried on a 747 with only 4 engines.
Can someone shed light on this?


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12495 times:

Quoting Comet4b (Reply 17):
The 225 was built to carry the Russian shuttle which is approximately the same size as the US shuttle.Why does the 225 need 6 engines whereas the US one is carried on a 747 with only 4 engines.

The AN-225 was also designed to carry other pieces of the Buran stack, not just the shuttle, and thats where the extra lifting power came in.

Basically it was designed more as a generic lifting vehicle that could also carry the Buran, rather than a specialist lifting vehicle that could only carry the Buran.


User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5555 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12495 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 16):
So far, it appears to be half-complete,

Previous posters (in other threads) have claimed that all the major parts exist and it's mostly a matter of assembly to get the second aircraft flying. That may be making the job sound easier than it really is.

OTOH, it may be that the single aircraft isn't profitable enough to make the second one worth completing. That would be a pity, since it's such an impressive plane.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9658 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12081 times:

It will cost more these days to complete an An225 than it did when they made the first one. Same problem with the new A124. The ones that exited are cash cows, they cost little to nothing because they were available from the Military and can be hired out on charters for real money with crews that make a fraction of what their western counterparts make.

That business model cannot last forever. But there is still a high demand for that kind of uplift.



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11626 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 20):
It will cost more these days to complete an An225 than it did when they made the first one. Same problem with the new A124. The ones that exited are cash cows, they cost little to nothing because they were available from the Military and can be hired out on charters for real money with crews that make a fraction of what their western counterparts make.

Problem with all AN-124s produced before 2001 is that they are only rated for 7,500 hours - the -100 series upgrade brings them up to 24,000 hours.

Many companies are upgrading their AN-124s to the new standard and orders are still being placed for new aircraft.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11174 times:

Comet6, the engines aren´t as good as the Boeing is fitted with. The Buran was smaller than the US space shuttle.

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11075 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 22):
Comet6, the engines aren´t as good as the Boeing is fitted with. The Buran was smaller than the US space shuttle.

The SCA is fitted with 4 JT9D-7J turbofans at about 53,000lb of thrust each, while the AN-225 is fitted with 6 Lotarev D-18 turbofans at about 52,000lb of thrust each.

Not exactly a difference worth quibbling over.

As I said before, the AN-225 was designed to carry other components of the Buran stack, including the boosters, which is why its rated to carry so much more than the SCA.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9533 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10862 times:

I'd love to know what they make of those contrails on Chemtail Central but it's such a mess these days it's difficult to know where to look.

25 Idlewild : What is the range of that thing in miles?
26 RichardPrice : 2425nm with maximum payload of 551,000lb, 8700nm with no payload.
27 Rdwelch : What a beast! If Shaq were an airplane, he'd be a AN-225! Gus
28 Dougloid : Damn....the Russians sure know how to do BIG.
29 Wjv04 : Its quite the process..the 225 and the 124 both have special towbars, which are flown with the aircraft. So You push it out, then load the towbar on
30 Idlewild : Who would be the 380?
31 Rdwelch : Louie Anderson. Gus[Edited 2006-06-23 21:55:59]
32 Legoguy : What are the main differences between the An225 and its little sister the An124, apart from the obvious extra 2 engines and the twin tail?
33 Csturdiv : Oprah
34 Sovietjet : Two more sets of main gears on each side. Also the An-124 can open up in the back while the An-225 can't and is only loaded up from the nose.
35 DreamsUnited : They want to equipt the second Mriya with an aft loading door.
36 Legoguy : Is there any physical difference betwee the An225 and An124? Length wise and width wise. I would imagine the width is slighty different but what abou
37 RichardPrice : The AN-225 is basically a -124 with extensions just before and just after the wingbox and in the wingroots, the internal cross section is pretty much
38 TripleDelta : Externally, apart from the said fuse plugs, the most eye-striking difference is, as you said, the "twin tail" of the An-225, designed as such so that
39 Hmmmm... : My Gawd, don't tell me the Russians are in on the chemtrail conspiracy, too? LOL My sister rents out a room to this loser who is a fanatical conspirac
40 Post contains links A342 : Have a look at this pic: It shows the An-225, the An-70 and 2 An-148 flying in formation over Kiev's Gostomel (Antonov) Airport. http://www.antonov.co
41 FVTu134 : To quote ACW (Air Cargo Week) Issue of 20 March this year: (Graham Pearce, the UK commercial Director for Antonov Airlines) Pearce is pessimistic on
42 Ariis : That is a really cool pic. I must say that I have seen the Mriya overflying Warsaw some 2 years ago from my kitchen's window. First I thought that was
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