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User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8689 times:

anyone, who is the operator that operates the Swiss flag looking NGs across the Atlantic? Thanks

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User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8678 times:

I'm pretty sure those are all-business configured A319's, not 73G's.

User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

PrivatAir operate B737s and A319s across the Atlantic for LH. About 50 business class seats.

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

It is PrivatAir. They operate the A319CJ and BBJ across the atlantic.

Here is their website: http://www.privatair.com/

Thanks
Mike

[Edited 2006-06-25 23:42:42]

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

PrivatAir operates both 73NGs and A319CJs across the Atlantic for KLM and LH. They serve EWR, ORD, IAH amongst the US cities.

JSD



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

PRIVATAIR, the Swiss Company, operating for LH,SR and KL.

The fly BBJ1 and BBJ2 aircraft (not 73Gs or 738s) with a low density all biz class interior. They also fly A319CJs.

Aside from EWR, they also fly from Chicago and recently added a IAH-AMS route for KL.


User currently offlineLS737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 1):
I'm pretty sure those are all-business configured A319's, not 73G's

The airline is PrivatAir. They operate all business class services for a number or airlines using both Airbus and Boeing products.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8628 times:

Quoting EssentialPowr (Thread starter):
anyone, who is the operator that operates the Swiss flag looking NGs across the Atlantic?

It's Privatair. They operate a mixed fleet of A319s and 737 BBJs of both BBJ1 and BBJ2 types, and I believe they also have at least one 757 in their fleet.

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User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8604 times:

Thank you all, that was fast!!!

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8533 times:

Hey, here is a complete fleet list:

Airbus A319 1 Aircraft in fleet
Airbus A319 LR 1 Aircraft in fleet
Boeing 757-200 1 Aircraft in fleet
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet
Global 5000 1 Aircraft in fleet
Global Express 1 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream IV-SP 2 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream IV 4 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream III 5 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream II-SP 1 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream 200 1 Aircraft in fleet
Embraer Legacy 1 Aircraft in fleet
Challenger 604 1 Aircraft in fleet
Challenger 601-3A 2 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 2000EX 1 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 2000 1 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 900 EX 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation X 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation Encore 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation II 1 Aircraft in fleet
Hawker 700 1 Aircraft in fleet
Hawker 400XP 1 Aircraft in fleet
Learjet 60 2 Aircraft in fleet
Learjet 55 2 Aircraft in fleet
King Air 350 1 Aircraft in fleet
Beech 1900C 1 Aircraft in fleet

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8421 times:
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wow .. that's fleet variety.  Smile

You could just about put that B1900 inside the 757, too ...

 Smile

- litz


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7967 times:

OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s. I take it those are owned by ..someone else (other than leasing companies?) and just flown/operated in Privateair colours?


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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7923 times:

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 11):
OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s.

This should answer your question :

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
Airbus A319 1 Aircraft in fleet
Airbus A319 LR 1 Aircraft in fleet



Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet

The Boeing Business Jet are the 737s (They have 737 - BBJs)

Nick



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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7898 times:

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 11):
OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s. I take it those are owned by ..someone else (other than leasing companies?) and just flown/operated in Privateair colours?

Hey,

As GCDEG says above, the following entry in the list:

Quote:
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet

They are actually B737's. I am not sure, but i think 2 are B73GW's and the other is a B738W. They are called BBJ (Boeing Business Jet) because of their interior and i beleive they have some range changes aswell.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 912 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 13):

They are actually B737's. I am not sure, but i think 2 are B73GW's and the other is a B738W. They are called BBJ (Boeing Business Jet) because of their interior and i beleive they have some range changes aswell.

They have rather significant structural modifications from the baseline aircraft. The wing structures and fuselage are reinforced for higher gross weights, the fuel system is more sophisticated to allow for auxillury tanks, etc.

It's not simply the configuration, they are a different type of aircraft.


User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7833 times:

How about WN introducing service to LTN using 737-700ER aircraft? How do you think that would go over with our friends across the pond?


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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7815 times:

GCDEG wrote:
The Boeing Business Jet are the 737s (They have 737 - BBJs)

Of course I only realized I probably skimmed over `BBJs' after I could no longer edit my message. i.e. `Doh!'
Pretty tight operation using 3 737s and 2 319s then.



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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7804 times:

Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 15):
How about WN introducing service to LTN using 737-700ER aircraft? How do you think that would go over with our friends across the pond?

Joking aside, there have been murmurings that Westjet and Continental are looking at this possibility. I continue to hear rumours that EWR-ABZ with CO is on the cards - with particualr emphasis on the large oil company, high yield spend.

7L



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User currently offlineMaartenV From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7669 times:

If you go to their website and read the statement about how they are evaluating both the 787 and the A350, you will see that in the editor statement, they mention that they operate 4 A319 aircraft.

http://www.privatair.com/media_center/articles/May_4_2006.pdf



Its all about supply and demand...
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7656 times:

Regarding the A319s, two operate for LH out of DUS-EWR/ORD and two operate for Airbus.

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 413 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6527 times:
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The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6485 times:

Quoting BA84 (Reply 20):
The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.

Is this really true - its certainly not what KL had in mind when it launched the all J class flight between IAH and AMS.....any further info?


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6707 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6485 times:

Both ways?

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6371 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
PRIVATAIR, the Swiss Company, operating for LH,SR and KL

Just a little bit of nitpicking...  Wink ... they're not operating for SR, because SR doesn't exist any more - they're operating for LX.

Quoting BA84 (Reply 20):
The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.

You sure? Because it certainly isn't scheduled that way - KL661 (B747-400 Mixed) is scheduled as 10:10 to 13:20 (10 hours 10 minutes flying time), KL663 (B737 BBJ) as 15:05 to 18:55 (10 hours 50 minutes flying time); 40 minutes more with a slower plane doesn't sound like there's any room left for a stop at Gander.

On the way back, the flying time only differs by 20 minutes (9 hours 20 to 9 hours 40).



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User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 413 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6213 times:
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Westbound, depending on headwinds.

25 Thering : Air Private is as well the transporter of USA Soccer team during the 2006 World Cup if i'm not wrong. I think I saw they arriving Germam on a Air Priv
26 Dutchjet : Woops, old age, sorry.
27 Post contains images Leskova : Nah... don't worry - some of my colleagues (people who issue airline tickets the whole day) still call LX Swissair, just as much as they still refer
28 Daddy1 : I will be flying with Privatair next week, AMS-IAH. Will provide trip report later on in the week.Intresting about the Gander stop. Regards Daddy1....
29 Toptravel : EuroFly are also operating an A319 from JFK/MXP in b/c confirgeration
30 HT : Looking forward to read it; I just booked an award ticket on KL663 AMS-IAH for End of January 2007 a few days ago with return out of SFO on the MD11
31 BA84 : Daddy1, I'd be interested to know when and how the Gander stop is announced to passengers, if it happens. If you do re-fuel at YQX, try to ask a pilo
32 LHUSA : That's correct. The US team flew over with LH EWR-HAM on June 1. The EWR-DUS flight did not operate that day to accomodate the team's flight. Also, o
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