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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 817 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

so this is for all you pro's out there.

i was reading in another thread that CO has some 24(ish) flights daily between Newark and Houston. i checked out CO's website and only found they have 11, at least thats what i found for July 17th sked's...(varies on B737, B757's, and B767's).

so what airline has the most hub-to-hub flights?
mixture of a/c type?

does NW have any widebody flights between MSP and DTW for repositioning like UA does between their hubs?

~B6FA4ever

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User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

I think that the 24 nonstops between Houston and NYC included COs service between IAH and EWR/LGA/JFK.

User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 817 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 1):
I think that the 24 nonstops between Houston and NYC included COs service between IAH and EWR/LGA/JFK.

oops. brain fart BIG TIME! *LOL* compltely forgot about LGA and JFK! thanx for the correction!
~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):
so what airline has the most hub-to-hub flights?

In the United States I believe that it would be Alaska/Horizon between Seattle and Portland. Horizon operates up to 31 daily flights between the two cities.

Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):
mixture of a/c type?

Almost everything is on Dash 8s. There are some CRJ-700s and Alaska has operated mainline jets on the route too.

31 nonstop flights between SEA and PDX might surprise some people since the Northwest is often a part of the country that is forgotten about, but SEA-PDX is a huge market as far as frequencies go. It isn't as big of a market as the shuttle routes in the Northeast or in Texas, but one airline dominates and operates more flights on a single route than anywhere else in the country. The flights are pretty much every half hour between 6am and 9pm.

[Edited 2006-06-26 05:20:05]


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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2766 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):
so what airline has the most hub-to-hub flights?

I would think that AA DFW-ORD takes the prize for any single hub to hub route. 18 flights per day. 17 MD-80 and 1 777.



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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Tomorrow NW has.....

16 MSP-DTW flights

7 MSP-MEM flights

7 DTW-MEM flights



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User currently offlinePremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Looks like there are actually 18 flights tomorrow from MSP-DTW.

Source: nwa.com



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2766 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
In the United States I believe that it would be Alaska/Horizon between Seattle and Portland. Horizon operates up to 31 daily flights between the two cities.

Wow!!! I had no idea it was that many. I would have guessed it was around 12 or so.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9220 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

For the heck of it:

PIT-PHL: 12 dailies on US
PHL-PIT: 10 dailies...

I tried to find information on PHL-CLT but their website/internet is being a piece of shit for me tonight... I would imagine upwards of 12 daily flights between PHL and CLT on A320, 737, 757, and 767 aircraft. I know that at least one aircraft or two between PHL and CLT are a 767...



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Well, LH between FRA and MUC would be pretty high, as well as JL and NH between Tokyo and Osaka.

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

not themost, but not bad...

ATL-NYC Region

ATL-LGA has 16 tomorrow (ranging from MD-88 to 767-300s)
ATL-EWR has 10 tomorrow (MD88 to 757)
ATL-JFK has 7 tomorrow (CRJ to 767-300)

Total ATL-NYC: 33



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User currently offlineNateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 2):
oops. brain fart BIG TIME! *LOL* compltely forgot about LGA and JFK! thanx for the correction!

Ha! That must have been my comment in the other B6 thread. Yea, EWR, LGA, and JFK included.  Wink

Nice mixture of a/c for CO, all kinds of 737s, a couple 752s, a 753, 3 762s.

I think you will do well at HOU. Big cities, lots of ties, etc...



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User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 7):
Wow!!! I had no idea it was that many. I would have guessed it was around 12 or so.

Nope, it's opperated so that if someone misses a flight its not a big deal at all and will be on the next one no problem. Shuttle style. Also, they have to compete with Amtrak and cars, so I think the frequency is necessary. Also, they offer free wine/microbrews, leather seats, great FAs etc etc... Great service! Plus, there's a LOT of traffic going between the Puget Sound and Western Oregon everyday. Some people even commute to Seattle everyday from Vancouver,WA and Portland (crazy people!)

-Chans


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5682 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

QF between SYD & MEL this Friday have 33 flights on a mixture of 763/738 & A332 aircraft. Between 0600 and noon there are 14 flights: 12x763, 1x738 & 1xA332.

As well JQ has 5 flights on that day with A320s.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 8):
I tried to find information on PHL-CLT but their website/internet is being a piece of shit for me tonight... I would imagine upwards of 12 daily flights between PHL and CLT on A320, 737, 757, and 767 aircraft.

Only 10 from PHL to CLT...9 the other direction. I would have guessed more as well.

Interestingly enough, US has more flights LAS-PHX - 14, all HP aircraft.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

I fly MSP-DTW (or vice versa) on NW to help me keep my status. Even with 16 or 18 daily flights between MSP and DTW, those flights are always full. Even the times I've flown the route on the 753, there weren't many, if any at all, open seats.

Maybe a lot of segment hogs like me  Smile



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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Not a record but UA operates 17 flights a day between SFO and LAX. They used to have a lot more on the route when they used to have Shuttle by United/United shuttle. There are a lot more flights between the Bay Area and LA if you include the satellite airports.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 9):
as well as JL and NH between Tokyo and Osaka

I would not call Osaka a hub for JL or NH. Though there are many flights between Osaka and Tokyo, there are also tons of flights between all major cities. When you really only have two airlines (there are others but limited service) all cities are focus and hubs. If you put Osaka as a Hub then you have to put CTS, FUK, NGO, and OKA as hubs as well.



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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Would like to know LAX-SFo on UA must be alot

and also AC from YYZ to YUL close to 26 i think...


User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):
does NW have any widebody flights between MSP and DTW

A few years ago, NW operated a DC10 between MSP-DTW to repostion aircraft. Now, the only heavy operating between the two cities is a 757(-200 and -300). The equipment varies between MSP and DTW. Anything from a DC9 to a 753.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 19):
A few years ago, NW operated a DC10 between MSP-DTW to repostion aircraft. Now, the only heavy operating between the two cities is a 757(-200 and -300). The equipment varies between MSP and DTW. Anything from a DC9 to a 753.

Northwest also used to fly the D10 between MSP and MEM as well (circa '01 and '02). I flew that several times and the flights were always packed. Now I think they fly anything from a CRJ to a 753 between the two cities.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 20):
Northwest also used to fly the D10 between MSP and MEM as well (circa '01 and '02). I flew that several times and the flights were always packed. Now I think they fly anything from a CRJ to a 753 between the two cities.

I don't think the 753 frequents MEM.



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User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

Cathay Pacific's skd HKG-TPE
CI 10flts daily
KA 4flts daily
BR 10flts

CX 460 (e) HKG (-) 08:35a TPE (1) 10:15a 1:40 330
CX 530 (e) HKG (-) 09:10a TPE (1) 10:50a 1:40 330
CX 450 (e) HKG (-) 10:10a TPE (1) 11:55a 1:45 744
CX 406 (e) HKG (-) 12:10p TPE (1) 1:55p 1:45 330
CX 564 (e) HKG (-) 1:10p TPE (1) 2:55p 1:45 330
CX 466 (e) HKG (-) 1:25p TPE (1) 3:05p 1:40 773
CX 420 (e) HKG (-) 2:25p TPE (1) 4:05p 1:40 330
CX 510 (e) HKG (-) 2:55p TPE (1) 4:35p 1:40 773
CX 472 (e) HKG (-) 3:55p TPE (1) 5:35p 1:40 343
CX 400 (e) HKG (-) 4:30p TPE (1) 6:15p 1:45 773


CX 470 (e) HKG (-) 5:45p TPE (1) 7:25p 1:40 330
CX 402 (e) HKG (-) 6:35p TPE (1) 8:15p 1:40 330
CX 468 (e) HKG (-) 7:55p TPE (1) 9:40p 1:45 773
CX 464 (e) HKG (-) 9:00p TPE (1) 10:40p 1:40 330
CX 408 (e) HKG (-) 10:00p TPE (1) 11:40p 1:40 330
CX 462 (e) HKG (-) 10:55p TPE (1) 00:35a+1 1:40 343


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned IB's shuttle service between MAD and BCN. I know BCN may not be as big a hub as some of the other places already mentioned, but the number of flights is immense. Add to that flights with JKK and AEA and you get a ridiculous amount of flights!  Wink

Matt


User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Quoting Ophila (Reply 22):
Cathay Pacific's skd HKG-TPE

Except that TPE isn't a hub for CX. That's a lot of widebodys though.

OH! I just remembered, I checked the AS/QX schedules and there are 31 flights scheduled one-way from SEA-PDX today. All of them are on QX Dash 8-200s and one Dash 8-400. They run pretty much every half and hour on the zero and the thirty from 7AM 'til 9PM plus a couple after 9PM and one at 6AM. Each flight is around 50 minutes. That's somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 seats today, one-way!

-Chans


25 B6sea : Sorry for the double post! More AS info! Other AS hub flights include; SEA-ANC 20 Daily AS-73G, 734, 739 MD80 SEA-GEG (Spokane,WA) 16 Daily QX-Dash 8-
26 Jfrworld : Hub to Hub: US PHX-LAS: 15, A320, A319, 733
27 RwSEA : Those flights are very full too, and they generally have very high yields. Unrestricted full Y is around $325 round-trip. Mainly catering to business
28 CIDflyer : actually it does per the NWA website...flight 165 MEM-MSP is a 753; flight 444 MSP-MEM is also a 753
29 Ckfred : AA flew as many as 23 flights each way between ORD and DFW, with the vast majority being MD-80s. There may have been a 757 or two, and there was a 777
30 Steeler83 : That is rather odd. More flights between PIT and PHL and PHL and CLT, US' two largest hubs... PIT-PHL is a hub-2ndary hub/focus city pair...
31 Ejmmsu : Something tells me that a certiain Canyon Blue and Saddle Tan airline has something to do with that.......
32 AIR757200 : Not exactly a hub-to-hub, but AA ORD-LGA, 19 flights/day.
33 Post contains images MD90fan : There is also alot of O&D traffic on that route as well as Business between the two cities.
34 Steeler83 : True, that is one of PIT's highest O&D markets besides D.C., NY, and Chicago...
35 Premobrimo : There are 29 daily flights between DAL-HOU on Southwest.
36 Vegasplanes : WN does not have "hubs" per se, but between two of their largest cities: LAS-PHX x 19
37 Steeler83 : And what airline might that be? I don't know!!!! Aaaagh! Geee-wiz...
38 B6sea : Agreed. I mean, I'm leaving on a family vacation to upstate NY (Jamestown area) and we're flying SEA-MEM(I believe) and then to BUF and back and I th
39 Carpethead : Didn't AA have even more flying between DFW-ORD in the past (around 1990). I recall half-hourly MD-80s from 0600 to 2200. Then maybe one at 2300 & mid
40 VHVXB : Virgin Blue has 17 flights a day between Sydney and Brisbane using the B737-700 and the B737-800 even though Sydney is not their hub
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