Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7132 posts, RR: 4 Posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12823 times:
Airbus is poised to begin its assault on the mid-size long-range freighter market, as it finalises long-held plans to launch a freighter version of the A330-200 widebody.
Airbus chief operating officer customers John Leahy says there is strong demand in the sector, and does not rule out a programme launch at next month’s Farnborough air show.
The 64t payload A330-200F would fill the void left by the A300-600F that will cease production in July next year. The A330 will utilise the same 2.6 x 3.6m (8.5 x 11.8ft) cargo door as the A300-600, installed in the forward fuselage. The aircraft is set to enter production in the second half of 2009.
The new freighter will be able to carry its 64t payload over a distance of 7,400km (4,000nm) and typically accommodate up to 22 standard 96 x 125in (243 x 318cm) pallets side by side – two more than the shorter-range A300-600F. Configured to accommodate pallets that could interline with the main deck of the A380 Freighter without being rebuilt, the A330 would be able to carry 16 96 x 96 x 125in pallets.
Rpaillard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12691 times:
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 3): if Boeing added a 787-F to the competition mix?
I'm far from an expert, but I highly doubt that Boeing will roll out the 787-F before a certain time. It have to handle an amazing backlog for the PAX version and probably need to maximize the ROI before the launch of a F version. Plus, it will be a pretty expensive aircraft to buy. At that time, one can figure that the A330 will be somewhat cheaper!
Chiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12691 times:
Have Boeing been considering a B787F?
If that's done then the A330F could be less successfull unless the extra weight needed for strenghtening a freighter would make the B787 unfit for such a role!?!
But I think we are likely to see an B787F sooner or later.
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12591 times:
Quoting Chiad (Reply 5): Have Boeing been considering a B787F?
Yes, but it won't happen soon. The B787F will be the size of a B787-8 but with a MTOW around 620,000 lbs. This will require the addition of a 2-wheel center bogey and a lot of structural reinforcement that will be developed first for the B787-9ER and B787-10ER. The B787F will also get different wingtip extensions optimized more for climb and less for cruise compared to the passenger models (other than the B787-3). I don't think EIS will be before 2015.
Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12591 times:
Quoting Rpaillard (Reply 4): I'm far from an expert, but I highly doubt that Boeing will roll out the 787-F before a certain time. It have to handle an amazing backlog for the PAX version and probably need to maximize the ROI before the launch of a F version. Plus, it will be a pretty expensive aircraft to buy. At that time, one can figure that the A330 will be somewhat cheaper!
Quoting Columba (Reply 8): Boeing wonï¿½t do that. They have the 777F and the 747-8F for long haul.
There plenty of 767 that can be rebuild to freighters as well. No need for the 787 for now.
The only reason I can see them putting one out faster is if they open a 2nd manufacturing line and they offering a 787 based tanker to the USAF.
ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12458 times:
Very interesting news. That plane is important for Airbus. There should be enough demand from airlines that don't need a large freighter such as the 777F, or even 747F. This will also keep the A330/340 line longer in operation, which is needed when the A350 will be postponed until 2012.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2763 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12282 times:
Good to finally see this aircraft moving forward. Just like the 777F, I am actually quite surprised about how long it has taken to bring these respective aircraft to market. I honestly expected both aircraft to be out 3-4 years ago.
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 3): But what would happen if Boeing added a 787-F to the competition mix?
Not going to happen for quite some time, actually.
Quoting Chiad (Reply 5): Have Boeing been considering a B787F?
It will always be a possibility, but there are no serious plans to launch at this point in time.
Quoting Rpaillard (Reply 4): Plus, it will be a pretty expensive aircraft to buy.
Actually, no it wouldn't. The way Boeing is going about the 787 is keeping unit costs low for the amount of improvement from current generations. One can buy a 787 for less than an A330, at list price anyway. . .
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3424 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 12123 times:
I don't think that a 787 friegher can be alligned to a bid for the USAF Tanker contract as Boeing have said that they cannot cut holes in the 787's fusealage. I reckon this is a good move by Airbus - it will keep the line open for many years after the pax version is replaced by the A350 + A370 - remember how long the A300 line stayed open as freignter only.
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12036 times:
The launch of the A332F could not have come at a better time. While the A330 family is still selling strong this fact will not remain for many years to come. With the introduction of the A332F, the A330/A340 will have yet another breath of life in it.
It will be interesting to see if Airbus do in fact launch the A332F at Farnborough. One can also imagine who in fact will be likely candidates?
Scorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5086 posts, RR: 43
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11829 times:
Quoting Thering (Reply 7): Yes, maybe Fedex could be a lauch client for the 777F, in order to replace their DC-10F and MD-11F!
Not going to happen any time soon, for two reasons:
-The 777F is too much aircraft to replace the FedEx DC-10s;
-FedEx is still adding more DC-10s and MD-11s, and converting the DC-10 to MD-10 standard, indicating that they intend on keeping them around for a long time.
I can see them adding the A330, as an addition to the DC-10/MD-11 fleet, and for growth, seeing hw scarce the the trijets are to come by.
Aeroplan73 From Canada, joined May 2006, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11801 times:
Quoting Columba (Thread starter): Airbus is poised to begin its assault on the mid-size long-range freighter market, as it finalises long-held plans to launch a freighter version of the A330-200 widebody.
Sorry if I missed it, but who is the launch customer for the 330F?
I remember, the choices were chicken or fish. I had the lasagna.