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User currently offlineATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

The new cabin looks great...it looks like a 777! But the new seats look odd to me...I think they could have picked a better seat.

http://www.myaviation.net/search/pho..._search.php?id=00733471&size=large

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User currently offlineAbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 296 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

The cabin is considerably more attractive than I had anticipated, based on the previous and controversial photo. I'm especially pleased to see that they chose the Signature Interior-style pivot bins for the outboard storage, rather than just putting a curved door on the existing structure. Does anyone know for sure if this is the Heath-Tecna upgrade package?

User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6428 times:

Uhhmmm, I was on an AA 763 twice in the last couple of days. Both had the old seats, one had the new cabin interior and the other the old exterior. BTW, the old seats "look" more comfortable than the new ones.

For reference:

New style interior
http://www.myacc.net/~gxshiem/AA763/AA763I.jpg

Old style interior
http://www.myacc.net/~gxshiem/AA763/AA763II.jpg



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User currently offlineAAden From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

they look great.

thanks for sharing


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6269 times:

Sorry, whilst i appreciate that the seat may be confortable, the whole cabin still looks drab and is crying out for a bit of freshness and brighter colours....basically it looks very boring!

User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6256 times:
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I have no doubt the seats are great. But the pitch seems kinda short. The cabin looks cramped to me. A guy that measures 6ft 2 like me probably will not be that comfortable. Then again, it may be the perspective from the pictures.

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6232 times:

They didn't just upgrade the 763s to new look. Some of the aircraft (the newer ones that came from an order to replace the TW ones that were not taken up) were bought relatively recently and feature the 777 style interior.

In my view, the cabin looks cramped and the colours are drab. Hopefully it's just an illusion.



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User currently offlineAbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 296 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6214 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 6):
They didn't just upgrade the 763s to new look.

Actually, the one 763 that is flying with the new business seat used to have the old interior (bins, sidewalls, etc.)

When it got the new seats, they renovated the interior fixtures as well so that the cabin more closely matches that of the new batch of 763s.


User currently offlinePyroGX41487 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

I've never found AA's buisness class product to be overly attractive... but hey, its all a matter of opinion ^^

User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2294 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5982 times:

It's interesting to note, I think, that AA chose the gray seat covers over the usual dark blue to help brighten the cabin... and we get comments on here about the cabin being "drab." I personally would have preferred to keep the dark blue. Whatever we think of the new seat, I am sure everyone agrees it's an improvement over the old cabin.

A side note: There are eight aircraft that were delivered in 2003 that feature the new 777-style interior throughout the aircraft. All 763s will get the new interior when the biz class seats are replaced starting in September. Only one 763 (tail #396) has been equipped with the new seat/interior. The idea is to fly the aircraft around the system for the summer and get flight attendant and passenger feedback. Full conversion will begin in September and be complete by January 2007. Also, the new 777-style interior is only being installed through the twilight zone. The rest of main cabin (aft of the old j-class galley) will remain as-is.



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User currently offlineSABE From Argentina, joined Jun 2005, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5916 times:

Congrats to AA on the upgrade! In spite of all the "criticism" on this board, I think they did a great job.

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 9):
Also, the new 777-style interior is only being installed through the twilight zone. The rest of main cabin (aft of the old j-class galley) will remain as-is.

My company won't pay for business class travel, but at least I can enjoy the twilight zone! So, the bathrooms just aft of row 13 have been removed in ship #396? Is there a bulkhead there now? What happened to row 17, which was used for crew rest?



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

Quoting AbirdA (Reply 7):
Actually, the one 763 that is flying with the new business seat used to have the old interior (bins, sidewalls, etc.)

When it got the new seats, they renovated the interior fixtures as well so that the cabin more closely matches that of the new batch of 763s.

Interesting...thanks for that AbirdA, didn't know.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5854 times:

Why are the leaving the back of the bird in the old 70's style 767 bins?

Stupid middle of the road upgrade IMHO



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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5846 times:

No, the lavs that were removed are aft of the last row in Main Cabin (center) behind "C", "E", "G" seats. The mid-lavs behing twilight zone are still there. No changes were made to crew rest areas/location, they remain as usual.

User currently offlineSABE From Argentina, joined Jun 2005, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Thanks, PRAirbus -- that makes more sense. I should have checked AA.com before asking; they have the new seat layout at http://www.aa.com/content/aboutUs/ourPlanes/boeing7632classnew.jhtml

Too bad they didn't put a few more power ports on the twilight zone

Man it would suck to sit on 44E!!!  Smile

[Edited 2006-06-27 18:13:11]


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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2294 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 12):
Why are the leaving the back of the bird in the old 70's style 767 bins?

Money.



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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

It looks cheap.

Definitely not cutting edge when it comes to ergonomics or design. It looks very basic. American, frankly, is one of the worst airlines at the moment, in terms of service. This should do little to change that image.


User currently offlineAbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 296 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting ContinentalEWR (Reply 16):
American, frankly, is one of the worst airlines at the moment, in terms of service.

Which explains, of course, why it received an overall satisfaction rating that was identical to your namesake in the J.D. Power and Associates' 2005 survey of airline customers. AA and CO also managed to receive identical ratings in Flight Crew and In-Flight Amenities, the two portions of the survey that pertain to service.

I guess we can place Continental down there at the bottom of the world, right with American, huh ContinentalEWR?

Or, possibly, things aren't as bad as you make them out to be.


User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 805 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Quoting ContinentalEWR (Reply 16):
American, frankly, is one of the worst airlines at the moment, in terms of service. This should do little to change that image.

American is also one of the better airlines right now financially. They are very conservative about spending money, that is what has made them the only major never to file for bk.

Matt


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7659 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

I'm a NW guy normally.....by I admit AA & CO are about equally superior, and both offer a much better product than NW. AA is far from the worst.

User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

Where can i test drive these seats? I need to ride in one for sure.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineTbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

I never thought I would ever feel this way, but if I were traveling internationally now, I would certainly choose a foreign carrier over a domestic airline. Having flown since the middle of the last century, it seems that our home carriers are lousy and are merely busses in the sky (no pun intended).

Reputations are important. Apparently, management of United States based carriers don't really care anymore. These feelings are reflected everywhere you turn in the US carriers' employees' attitude.

Don't flame me! The World feels this way about the US (per opinions voiced here on a.net).

It's a very sorry state from the country that showed the world that man can fly........


User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

If anyone wants to read an interesting article about the Domestic premium travel cabins and the Int'l premium cabins/the reasons for lack of innovation-I would suggest this month's Conde Nast Traveler magazine, they have interviews with US' VP for aircraft interiors, and some other people of note as well...

-Chans


User currently offlineRadelow From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

Quite a shoddy attempt at business class in comparison to their competitors. I fly BA Club across the pond and this photo just reinforces my thought that, once again, US airlines are behind the ball.

Just my $0.02.

Mark


User currently offlineLp0815 From Singapore, joined Oct 2005, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

6 abreast in a 763?
For business class I feel this to be quite cramped!

Is this standard?
Flew C-Class in an AC 763 few years back from YYZ to MUC and it was definitely 5 abreast.



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User currently offlineAY104 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 505 posts, RR: 6
Reply 25, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Although I don't travel a lot anymore, and certainly can't afford J or F Class, on the basis of those photos alone, I would definitely not choose American. The seats look like the old ones that AC is taking out of their A320 Executive Class, only the AC ones on the narrow body - domestic - are wider! If I had no other choice than American, I would waste neither FF miles nor $$ to upgrade, the whole cabin looks very claustrophobic. The way the seats are designed, each seat behind has a kind of bulkhead into which you would be staring the whole time. Also note how narrow the armrests are, and how close together each pair of seats is. I can't imagine you could actually lie competely flat, seeing the pictures of the old cabin, I would take the old any day. Just my opinion based only on these photos and a previous posting as well, only flew American once and that was over 10 years ago from YVR to DFW, was in F and the service was totally unimaginative and almost identical to DL in it's "skimpiness" - and that was during the so-called better times!
AY104



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