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When Was Dual Jetbridge Concept Abandoned?  
User currently offlineEastern1985 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 203 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12725 times:

Hi Again,

I was watching the movie "Airport" and noticed that the aircraft was boarded using two jetbridges. One for First and one for tourist.

When did this concept stop being used, since it is obviously not in use today?

Thanks,

Eastern1985

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User currently offlineFilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12712 times:

It is in use today on some A/C.

User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12712 times:

I see it used quite often. I Believe AMS, LHR, FRA all have them.

They cost more money to the airport so that could be a reason I guess.


User currently offlineSeamefly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12694 times:

NRT, DTW also use them quite often when boarding Int'l flights.

User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12694 times:

It is still used today around the world. The larger airports that have large widebody aircraft utilize the concept on some gates. Here in the US I know that LAX and SFO both have dual jetbridge gates and I would bet there are others. United is introducing the dual jetbridge concept for Ted flights out of Denver and Southwest utilizes dual jetbridge gates at several of their stations.

User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12674 times:

If I am not mistaken they have/had them in BKK as well. I remember the jetbridge splitting up to F/C and Y classes.

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12614 times:

MAN and KUL also have it at some gates.


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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12559 times:

I've boarded at SEA with a dual jetbridge onto a BA 747 (I think).

User currently offlineChris133 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12518 times:

WN uses Over the wing bridges in ALB (and for the record they are really nice).

User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12450 times:

Here in YYC, Westjet uses a dual jetbridge system for their 737 fleet. It fits any of their NG's, and also the -200 model (no longer with the airline). Here is a link, with pictures of the jetbridge in use:

http://www.dewbridge.com/gallery/otw_photos.html

It can be a very efficient system when need for fast turn-arounds are necessary.

Rik



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User currently offlineParisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12431 times:

CDG has them too. I think they are quite commonly used in airports that get lots of wide bodies.

User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12411 times:

Quoting Eastern1985 (Thread starter):
since it is obviously not in use today

At AMS they obvious do use them. See pics below  smile 

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 2):
I Believe AMS, LHR, FRA all have them

Right!! (at least for AMS)


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12411 times:

Heya,

The type of Jetbride you are asking about can only be used when the aircraft is parked parallel to the airport like this:


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Where as nowadays at most if not at all airports, the aircraft park facing the terminal like this:


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(Top Left Aircraft, B744)

Therefore, they require over-wing double Jetways. In the first photograph, that is when 2 separate Jetways are used.

On another note, in DXB they use this method:


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Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12345 times:

They pretty much stopped using them after deregulation in the U.S. (1978)when passenger traffic soared and the jetways were needed for additional flights.

User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12290 times:

Westjet at YYC uses one!

User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1628 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12275 times:

I have boarded and de-boarded aircraft using a second jetway, as recently as 2005.

ORD has this system with some of their gates, especially at Terminal 1 (United). When I made my first ever trip to London, UK in 2003, I boarded a UA 777 from ORD gate C16 (or was it C18), a gate with 2 jetways--one for first/business, and the second was for economy. I boarded through the 2nd jetway--the one on the right side of the boarding lounge.

I have arrived at LHR several times (at T3), and T3 has 2 jetways at most of its gates.

I will be flying out of LHR T3 on 9th August to go home for a short summer break, and will be boarding a UA 777 through the 2nd of two jetways at the gate.

So, I have experienced two airports with double-jetway boarding--ORD and LHR.

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8239 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12263 times:

Quoting Eastern1985 (Thread starter):
When did this concept stop being used, since it is obviously not in use today?

Uhh.. it's obviously in use at almost every major airport in the world.

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 12):
The type of Jetbride you are asking about can only be used when the aircraft is parked parallel to the airport like this

That's not true at all. Look at ATL, DTW, DFW, JFK, MUC, DXB, FCO... in fact, as I said, most of the world's major airports.



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User currently offlineAirMailer From United States of America, joined May 2006, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12263 times:

Quoting Eastern1985 (Thread starter):
When did this concept stop being used, since it is obviously not in use today?

They're not at every gate, but you can find them at both IAD and DIA, I have used them at each airport.
No idea what the gate numbers were though.

With the amount of people that you can cram into a 739ER and sales success of the 777 and 787 I would think that you might start seing them be added to help reduce turn times.
But... That would also reduce the amount of time that passengers have to hold onto their luggage while waiting to get to their seats; which means that it just makes too much sense for an ailine to do.  Wink

You would almost think that airlines would at least board 757s using 2 jetbridges. Maybe not at every airport, but at like EWR, DFW, ATL, IAH, ORD.
Any airline that has 100 plus 757s and flies them out of a hub should be able to justify the expense based on the shorter turn times at least at the hub airport.

My  twocents 


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12263 times:

Duel jetways have not been abondended, the question I have is what airports do you normally use and thier terminals?


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12201 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 16):
That's not true at all. Look at ATL, DTW, DFW, JFK, MUC, DXB, FCO... in fact, as I said, most of the world's major airports.

Sorry, you don't understand what i am saying.

In the film 'Airport', the type of jetway Eastern1985 was wondering about can only be used when the aircraft is Parallel to the terminal.

This is because the Jetway's are separate, 1 at the front of the aircraft and the other at the rear. If you were to watch the film, you'd understand what i mean.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineKangarooMAN From Ireland, joined May 2006, 127 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12137 times:

Hi all

MAN has them in T1 at gates 22, 26, 29, 30, 23

you can see it in the below link on Google earth

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?
f=q&hl...04,-2.274084&spn=0.002907,0.010729


Roo

[Edited 2006-06-27 22:08:38]


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User currently offlineBA0284 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12120 times:

Yeah SFO, mainly on the international terminal use the dual jetbridges to board most wide bodied aircraft


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Although the aircraft are not parked with the long section of the fuselage parallel to the building, similar to the pic in 12, they are still quite easily put on the aircraft. I think they normally put the front one on first and then the rear one, but they seem to work rather well. If an airline can use them, they will.

It's even better that for the BA gates at SFO, when you are in the lounge, you can walk straight onto the forward air bridge so that you dont have to go out into the crowd! It's a nice touch.

BA0284  Smile


User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12048 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 19):
Sorry, you don't understand what i am saying.

In the film 'Airport', the type of jetway Eastern1985 was wondering about can only be used when the aircraft is Parallel to the terminal.

This is because the Jetway's are separate, 1 at the front of the aircraft and the other at the rear. If you were to watch the film, you'd understand what i mean.

I get what you're saying - I can picture photographs of LAX and SFO from the 60s in which aircraft were "parallel parked". Here's one from the database:

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As someone pointed out above, the need to accommodate more aircraft at terminals brought an end to this practice. Fuselages are obviously longer than wings, and parallel parking requires some maneuvering room (read: dead space)

[Edited 2006-06-27 22:44:25]

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12005 times:

Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 22):

That is it EXACTLY!

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11971 times:

Quoting DavidT (Reply 7):
I've boarded at SEA with a dual jetbridge onto a BA 747 (I think).

Those are not dual at the South Satellite.



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25 N766UA : Ohhh he's talking about the old way they did it, front and back. In the original post it wasn't clear, seemed to me he just meant L1 and L2 doors lik
26 Dogfighter2111 : hehe, yeah. Well, i have the DVD here and i watch it alot so i remember exactly how they were layed out. I think most people thought the same as you.
27 Eastern1985 : Yes, I was not totally clear. The real question is... When did the dual jetbridges connected to an aircraft that is parked parallel to the terminal co
28 Bohica : I couldn't find anything on the net, but one time I saw a picture of an overhead view of TWA 707's at JFK parked parallel to the satellites with jetwa
29 Alexinwa : Yes, Sorry SEA has never had dual boarding at any gate that I have ever seen. Too bad as well. The closet I have ever seen is Markair and Morris Air
30 Ckfred : Back in the 60s at ORD, TW and UA used to park their aircraft parallel to the concourse and use two jetbridges for 707s and DC-8s. For whatever reason
31 BigB : IAH uses them on Terminal E
32 Jcded : ZRH, terminal E, deplaned from inbound flight from YUL one week ago, one for left aisle, the other for the right aisle
33 Post contains links and images Captainstorck : MUC has them (at least on T2) but they are similar to what is found at DXB - they aren't just waiting for the A380 though, I off-loaded from a United
34 Post contains links and images MakeMinesLAX : Picture from Captainstorck's post: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bjorn Alegren Boy, this would make a great "name that plane" quiz. What a great
35 Post contains links and images LTU932 : The airports that are getting prepared for the A380 should also get a dual jetbridge for boarding. FRA will use a dual jetway system which will allow
36 Zvezda : Each jetbridge cost roughly $50,000 as of 1998.
37 Lordanmol : Singapore Changi Airport also have dual jet bridges. I dont think they have one with ONLY one jet bridge. I think in the international terminal at DEL
38 Christao17 : You're correct about BKK. I recall that when MCI originally opened, TWA had some gates set up with a jetway for the front and rear door of their 707s
39 Dogfighter2111 : Can anyone help me out by telling me where the 'Airport' film was made? I don't think Lincoln is an airport like they made it out to be. I think all o
40 Post contains images CPH757 : You're almost right. Though they ended parallel parking around the same time as the first woman became a pilot
41 DreamsUnited : Yeah, LAX and HNL have them for sure, I've used them...
42 Dw9115 : United is using or is going to start using two for its TED flights at Denver.
43 Joost : What's their useful lifespan? 20 years? I expected it to be more expensive.
44 Cloudyapple : Apprently they are in use EVERYWHERE except anywhere you have visited... travel more.
45 ZRH : Dock E in Zurich (ZRH) has two jetbridges at almost all gates. Two gates are prepared to get a third one to handle the A 380.
46 Lincoln : Out of curiosity, when using two jetways with the aircraft parked parallel to the terminal (the "Old way") how was boarding handled? Did they make an
47 727Tiger : MSP was used for exterior shots and some interior shots to replicate the fictional Lincoln International Airport, which, itself, was imagined by Arth
48 Oryx : Actually Thyssen is building a cantilevered jetbridge that will reach to door above the wing. I think FRA has ordered the for some gates for the A380
49 Mikester540 : You are misinterpreting what he said... read more. He means parking them parallel behind each other and using the back and front doors to deboard pax
50 Post contains images Backfire103 : I know that here at ALB WN uses the dual jet bridges. One on the front and the other hooked up to the rear. Sorry for the poor quality of the picture.
51 Cloudyapple : Exactly what I understood from his message and every reply in this thread. Dual bridges are everywhere and very very easy to find. Visit any asian/eu
52 Swissy : Would you have a picture of the WS 37-200 were the YYC boys put the 200 on the wrong markings and lowered the back bridge on to the ac left stab????
53 Post contains links Skywatch : After less than an hour on Google Earth, I found 31 airports using dual jetbridges. I will list them.... Europe: AMS, CDG, FCO, FRA, LHR, ORY, ZRH, As
54 B6sea : You sure about that one? I remember boarding an ATA flight from the South Terminal next to a BA 744 and it was soo long I swore we were walking all t
55 CRGsFuture : Since when has JFK used dual jetbridges? That was one of the complaints about it, it is very unprepared for the A388.
56 AAtakeMeAway : WN used to use them at DAL for flights to AUS. Does anyone know if they still do this?
57 Skywatch : I checked on Google Earth, and DAL didn't have any. However, that picture doesn't solve anything, because there are AA Fokker 100s there! More than a
58 B6sea : I think that the concept for narrow-body dual jetbridges (at least in the US) is a new thing so that's probably not accurate. I know SW, along with W
59 Post contains links and images AAtakeMeAway : I just checked Google Earth, and it looks like it is there. I'm refering to the second gate from the bottom of the pic on the right side
60 N174UA : No dual jetways at SEA that I think of...north, south, and main concourse. The dual jetway that I think about is the one at gate 80 at SFO...one door
61 Skywatch : Ok, I see it now. At first glance the other side looks like a catering truck, not a gate. Interesting design! ---Skywatch
62 B6sea : None of the over-wing variety, you are correct. However, check out Google Earth and you can see very clearly that there are 2 jetways originating at
63 Post contains images AAtakeMeAway : It is very cool, I've used it before. I'm not sure if it's still in use though. One problem I noticed though is that nobody uses the rear entrance ..
64 N702ML : OR....the passenger could check their bags in! I think THAT would make too much sense.
65 CRGsFuture : Ok I just checked Google Earth JFK has 4 of them, one at T4, two at T1, and one at T7.
66 Post contains images AirframeAS : I'm positive! What?!? No! Those are two totally different gates and have SEPARATE boarding doors at the South Satellite. The D concourse? Umm no! I w
67 VH-BZF : In Australia: Melbourne has the most number of dual aerobridge gates, including 2 brand new A380 gates (D9 & D11) at the international terminal, which
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