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Alaska 737-400F: Final Here!  
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 24
Posted (8 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 7235 times:

Employees caught their first glimpse today of a new Boeing 737-400 freighter that Alaska Airlines added to its cargo fleet, the first of five larger cargo aircraft the airline will put into service by the end of 2007.

The all-cargo aircraft provides 50 percent more capacity and more advanced flight guidance capabilities than the 737-200 it replaces.

The new freighter is the first 737-400 in the world to be converted from an all-passenger to an all-cargo configuration.
The introduction of the larger freighter is part of Alaska Airlines’ $100 million plan to expand and modernize its cargo operation to meet the growing demand for its cargo services. The airline is retiring seven 737-200 cargo aircraft and replacing them with five larger 737-400 retrofitted cargo aircraft, including the freighter introduced today, and four “combi” aircraft, which carry passengers and cargo simultaneously.

This new fleet will increase Alaska’s cargo capacity by 20 percent.

“Alaska Airlines’ cargo customers will benefit from the additional capacity on this freighter and the other larger cargo aircraft on their way,” said Matt Yerbic, managing director of cargo. “Our new cargo fleet will allow Alaska Airlines to better serve the growing needs of our cargo customers throughout the state of Alaska and beyond.”

Employees will have the opportunity to work on a one-of-a-kind aircraft that is more reliable and fuel-efficient than the 737-200. The new igloos, used to hold cargo, are clear, so employees can easily detect when they are empty, said Darbie Kirk, cargo marketing manager.

The new igloos hold nearly 400 cubic feet, compared with a capacity of 350 cubic feet for the older models. The new freighter will carry 9½ pallets versus six pallets that fit in the 200s.

Employees in Seattle and Anchorage who will work the freighters received a day of training on the aircraft.

The freighter, which begins scheduled commercial service on Friday, is the first 737-400 in the world to be converted from an all-passenger to an all-cargo configuration. Consequently, the Federal Aviation Administration required a new type certificate for the aircraft.

“Since it’s the first one of its kind, the certification process was lengthy,” Kirk said.

Introduced as a passenger aircraft into Alaska Airlines’ fleet in 1999, the aircraft was retrofitted into its all-cargo configuration by Pemco World Air Services. Pemco also is retrofitting the four 737-400 combi aircraft slated for delivery through 2007.

http://www.alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2006/06/28_freighter.asp

ASLAX


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 7208 times:

What reg is it and do you know the selcal code pls?   

And does it have PTVs and what routes will it fly     

R

[Edited 2006-06-28 19:53:14]

User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

Rob: N709AS Don't have the selcal off hand.

ASLAX



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

See also: AS 734 Freighter Arrives Today (by HikesWithEyes Jun 24 2006 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting RobK (Reply 1):
What reg is it and do you know the selcal code pls?  

N709AS and oddly every online DB draws a blank for it's SELCAL...I'll keep looking....

-R



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9654 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7069 times:
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any idea which route(s) it will be flying on Friday?

User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2449 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

I like the Alaska Air Cargo livery on it.... snazzy....

Quoting RobK (Reply 1):
And does it have PTVs and what routes will it fly

LOL



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6947 times:

Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 3):
N709AS and oddly every online DB draws a blank for it's SELCAL...I'll keep looking....

It is fitted - all the AS aircraft are. Sadly very few of their codes are known though, hence why I asked, in the hope that AS739X would take pity and be a good lad and source me the fleets' codes...  Wink  bigthumbsup 

 spin 

R


User currently offlineAeroWeanie From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1610 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6738 times:
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Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
Consequently, the Federal Aviation Administration required a new type certificate for the aircraft.

Huh? Freighter conversions (and combi conversions) get STCs, not TCs.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6635 times:

Aeroweanie: Huh? I didn't say that. This is a posting from Alaska Airlines! Take it up with the writer of the article!

ASLAX

[Edited 2006-06-29 04:51:51]


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

My guess is to FAI or JNU, but definitely ANC and SEA.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1651 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6549 times:

Man that Video is pretty cool... To bad it takes forever to load.


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User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 1):
What reg is it and do you know the selcal code pls?   

N709AS SELCAL = GM-FS

Hope that helps,
-R



You can take the pup out of Alaska, but you can't take the Alaska out of the pup.
User currently offlineSjot From United States of America, joined May 2002, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6252 times:
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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2449 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6171 times:

Is that Boeing logo and "Proudly All Boeing" going to be added to the entire fleet or just the cargo fleet?


You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6131 times:

Not a bad looking bird... anyone know what the sole remaining window aft of the wing is for? If any of the windows would have been left I would have thought the ones in the exit windows would have [but since they lack the required exit markings, I can only assume that they've been deactivated]

Nice looking livery, but...

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 13):
Is that Boeing logo and "Proudly All Boeing" going to be added to the entire fleet or just the cargo fleet?

Is it just me or should that just read

Proudly All
[Boeing Logo]

instead of

Boeing
Proudly All Boeing

Seems either partially-redundant or potentially confusing to me (Well, of course, Boeing is all Boeing...)

Lincoln



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 6092 times:

Lincoln: We have all been saying the same here. It just sounds wrong!

Cactus739: Currently they have it on the newest 738. Thats the only other plane I have seen it on.

ASLAX

[Edited 2006-06-29 19:12:55]


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 6033 times:

Shouldn't it be B737-400SF.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineBoomBoom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 6033 times:

Anchorage Daily News:

Quote:
Originally a passenger jet put into service in 1999, the plane now sports a windowless fuselage with the word "cargo" in Alaska's distinctive script. Gone from the interior is any sign of seats or beverage carts. Instead, the bare floors are fitted with rollers to accept cargo pallets.

Alaska is spending $15 million to retrofit the plane and four other 737-400s by the end of 2007, and $10 million more on ground equipment to service them. The five converted 400-models will replace a cargo fleet of seven 737-200s. The 400s can carry 50 percent more cargo while burning 20 percent less fuel than the 200-models.

The freighter will remain one of a kind. The other planes slated for a makeover will become "combi" aircraft that can carry commercial cargo in one compartment and up to 72 passengers in another.

The all-cargo freighter will make two runs a day between Alaska and Seattle, landing once each in Anchorage and Juneau.

http://www.adn.com/money/industries/...lines/story/7913662p-7807299c.html


User currently offlineDHHornet From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 6005 times:

Do the new aircraft have modifications for gravel runways etc? Can the 400s use all the same airports as the 200s they replace ?

User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 5998 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 16):
Shouldn't it be B737-400SF.

No, the 'SF' is for Boeing designed conversions. This is s Pemco STC so it is correct to call it a 737-400F.



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User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

Quoting DHHornet (Reply 18):
Do the new aircraft have modifications for gravel runways etc? Can the 400s use all the same airports as the 200s they replace ?

AS has not served a gravel field in at least one year. Red Dog mine was the last gravel field in the system, and was upgraded to a paved runway. The initial concern with the 400 running around on 200 routes was FOD damage from the materials used in the winter (sand, gravel, etc). The 400 however, has been running all over the state in recent years as the 200s began to retire.
-R



You can take the pup out of Alaska, but you can't take the Alaska out of the pup.
User currently offlineDHHornet From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5847 times:

RyDawg82
That answers that then-thanks!

I am sure more orders and conversions will follow.

How about a 737-500F? Is it viable?


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 19):
No, the 'SF' is for Boeing designed conversions. This is s Pemco STC so it is correct to call it a 737-400F.

Flight Structures has also used SF on it's 747 conversions.
My understanding was that the Special Freighter designation was because it was signifigantly different than the production freighter. In this case a side cargo door instead of the nose door.

Tod


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 22):
My understanding was that the Special Freighter designation was because it was signifigantly different than the production freighter. In this case a side cargo door instead of the nose door.

I should probably do a photo search before asking this...but 737-400 factory freighters are nose loading? How does that work?

Lincoln



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User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5693 times:

Will the cargo flights be listed in the Alaska timetable?

25 Post contains links and images BoomBoom : Here is a photo from the Anchorage Daily News story: Alaska Airlines rolled out an all-cargo version of its Boeing 737-400 aircraft Wednesday at Anch
26 Tod : I was just refering to where the SF designator has been used. In the case I was refering to it was a non-Boeing modified 742SF. Sorry about the confu
27 Post contains images Lincoln : Ahhhhha... That makes sense; thanks for the clarification. I was trying to figure out how you could do that to a 73x...and it seemed like it would be
28 Post contains links and images EA CO AS : Here's an even better way to illustrate how it all works - video! http://www.alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2006/06/Freighter.wmv
29 HAWK21M : Whats was the Difference between the STCs. regds MEL
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