Targowski From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2821 times:
i've heard that due to the altitude and position of the himilayas, twins have more difficulty or have to reroute around the himilayas to meet ETOPS. i'm wondering if (1) this is true and (2) how this affects AA's ORD-DEL and CO's EWR-DEL since both use 777s. I know the short lived AC YYZ-DEL used A340s.
SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
Do a search of the archives for a Pakistan Airlines thread that literally flogged this particular issue to death.
Not sure why you would think it is ETOPS related in so far as proximity to the Himalaya's are concerned. ETOPS is primarily an over water issue.
FlyingHippo From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2669 times:
Can you kindly provide the link to the thread? Thanks
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2577 times:
It's an issue with twin engine aircraft losing an engine with the drift down procedure. I believe PanAm had concerns with this route in using the A310's.
Blrsea From India, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1227 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2549 times:
There were lots of threads on this. The flight path doesnt go over the himalayas. It goes over central asia ->Afghanistan-> pakistan ->India. It doesn't have to go over himalayas
COEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 305 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2494 times:
Quoting Blrsea (Reply 4): There were lots of threads on this. The flight path doesnt go over the himalayas. It goes over central asia ->Afghanistan-> pakistan ->India. It doesn't have to go over himalayas
Correct. The flight path usually crosses the Hindu Kush over Afghanistan, and that has never been a problem for any plane.
As for Himalayas, there are restrictions on flying across Tibet in general, irrespective of how many engines you have, because in case of cabin depressurization it is impossible to bring the plane down to 7000' without going a few thousand feet underground . The plateau is about 11 to 12 thousand feet average altitude. This is obeyed quite carefully. For example, last time I flew SQ from EWR to SIN we flew an almost straight route across the pole, except for a divergence to the left to avoid a corner of the Tibetan plateau.
BTW, flight that originate or terminate in Tibet of course fly over Tibet. As a matter of fact when I flew from Lhasa to Kathmandu the aircraft was a twin (757) which flew right over Mount Everest. Can't get any higher than that, and yet it was a twin.
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. The plateau is about 11 to 12 thousand feet average altitude. This is obeyed quite carefully. For example, last time I flew SQ from EWR to SIN we flew an almost straight route across the pole, except for a divergence to the left to avoid a corner of the Tibetan plateau.
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