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Delays Galore At JFK Today 6/28  
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2970 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3444 times:

It seems that planes have been pushing back on-time but aren't departing until well over an hour past their scheduled times. What's going on? The weather here on Long Island is just fine...pretty humid but no thunderstorms in the immediate area.

I guess there will be ground delays at JFK/EWR/LGA everyday from now til September. Great.

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User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3432 times:

Makes me happy I'm flying into ISP this weekend!

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4864 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3414 times:
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Quoting JetBluefan1 (Thread starter):
It seems that planes have been pushing back on-time but aren't departing until well over an hour past their scheduled times. What's going on? The weather here on Long Island is just fine...pretty humid but no thunderstorms in the immediate area.

1 hour past? We should all be so lucky. I flew out of JFK on Monday 6/26 and we took off at 9:45pm after pushing off the gate at 7:21pm. There was no weather (seemingly) in the area...just a whole lot of airplanes in front of us. Issue was compounded when ATC decided to switch takeoff runways from 13R to 22R right in the middle of the evening rush hour.

The thing with JFK is there is always only one runway for arrivals and one for takeoffs in use at the same time. So during the evening rush hour, one is often #40 for takeoff or something similar when one joins the queue.


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Dont' feel so bad. Back in '86 we pushed back from the Wolrdport on a 74 only to be advised were were #96 in line that night for 31L. Instead of turning left on the outer, we ended up going right on the inner and circled the entire airport before getting to the end of the runway. And to think that I spent 21 years at that place.

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Ed



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4864 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3352 times:
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Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 3):
Dont' feel so bad. Back in '86 we pushed back from the Wolrdport on a 74 only to be advised were were #96 in line that night for 31L

Yes, I remember very well sitting on Clipper 2 to LHR or Clipper 72 to FRA and waiting for an interminably long time for takeoff....and to think, back then, Pan Am hardly padded its schedule (PA 2 JFK-LHR STD1900 STA 0640+) unlike what DL has done this summer (e.g., JFK-CDG this summer has a published flight time of 7:55 compared to 7:30 previously and an actual of usually 6:20 - 6:45)


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

That's the truth. The times stayed the same all year round and were right on the actual block time. The trouble at that time is that our competitors had the exact same times in their schedules and no-one wanted to be the first to blink and give in. I spent many hours arguing for schedule changes with the Pan Am bldg before I transferred to MIA, but didn't win a one.

Rgds,
Ed



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User currently offlineCaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3308 times:
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I live by JFk and the weather can't be better than that, usually in the summer the holding time is longer because more aircrafts are leaving at the same time, the last time i flew internationally from JFK was last July and we were on the ground almost 1 hour after the push back ( which was on time , usually pilots make up the time during the flight)

[Edited 2006-06-28 23:16:58]


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2872 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

It's weird...they are using 13L quite a bit for departures today on top of 13R. I just want this stupid stationary front to get the heck out of here already...its driving me up the wall.


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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 7):
I just want this stupid stationary front to get the heck out of here already...its driving me up the wall.

I concur! It's been how many days now?

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User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

It's bad today, a lot of lineups. Right now as of last time I checked ATC they have something like 32 in line.


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User currently offlineCaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3121 times:
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Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 7):
I just want this stupid stationary front to get the heck out of here already...its driving me up the wall.

I hear ya, i'm goign crazy

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 9):
Right now as of last time I checked ATC they have something like 32 in line

It's the same everyday starting from about 4:00 or 5:00 PM tell about 8:00 PM



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 2):
1 hour past? We should all be so lucky. I flew out of JFK on Monday 6/26 and we took off at 9:45pm after pushing off the gate at 7:21pm. There was no weather (seemingly) in the area...just a whole lot of airplanes in front of us. Issue was compounded when ATC decided to switch takeoff runways from 13R to 22R right in the middle of the evening rush hour.

How did this work? Did all of the aircraft lined up for 13R taxi in unison? Or were some at the end allowed to jump the line?

Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 3):
Dont' feel so bad. Back in '86 we pushed back from the Wolrdport on a 74 only to be advised were were #96 in line that night for 31L. Instead of turning left on the outer, we ended up going right on the inner and circled the entire airport before getting to the end of the runway

Ouch!!! Was this weather related or just rush hour traffic?

Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 3):
And to think that I spent 21 years at that place.

Good memories I hope?  Smile

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 7):
It's weird...they are using 13L quite a bit for departures today on top of 13R. I just want this stupid stationary front to get the heck out of here already...its driving me up the wall.

They do that quite often.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

Oh by the way, if your a B6 flyer and your leaving from 13R, the taxi is what is killing every B6 plane for delays.


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User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

Here's another problem with delays, two aircraft have problems and ruin the sequence, an AA 752 and a B6 322. The worst part is that both breakdowns happen in sequence.


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User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 2):
The thing with JFK is there is always only one runway for arrivals and one for takeoffs in use at the same time

Not true! If that were the case it would make JFK spotting so easy!


User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 751 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

I noticed last night the tail winds across the Atlantic were very strong. Most transatlantics took off 45-60 late but most landed on time. IF these flights would have left on time, many would have landed 6-90 minutes early. AZ 605 for example left an hour late and go in pretty much on time. If it would have took off on schedule, the flight would have got in 90 minutes early!!! Are flights ever held on purpose due to scheduling issues like this?

User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2690 times:

They used to hold EKs early morning flights at SIN due to the very strong tailwinds enroute. This was in the mid to late 90s.

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User currently offlineEIASJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
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Going home to DUB I always fly EI from JFK. In my ignorance I used to take the earliest (6.20) flight, but having spent too many hours waiting on the tarmac I now get the later flight and spend the extra time lesiurely watching the planes go by. Having travelled back and forth for the last 15 years I've noticed a marked decline in the standard of service on EI, but that has been more than offset by the reduction in the fare. Even discounting inflation, in pure total $ terms its probably cheaper to fly now than it was 15 years ago. Service and price are not the only items to have reversed. In the 747-100 days EI had the oldest fleet with the youngest air hostesses, now they have a younger fleet but the oldest hostesses.

.................................. or is it just me getting old ?.


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