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New Passport Requirements For Travel To The U.S.  
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10146 times:

Effective December 31, 2006, all nationals, including U.S. citizens, will be required to hold a valid passport to enter the United States by air and by sea. This also applies when coming from Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean and Bermuda. The new passport requirement means that all travelers, including U.S. citizens, who are departing the U.S. and intend to re-enter the United States are required to hold a valid passport upon departure from the U.S.

Source http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...html?aairmailid=0606_passportsToUS

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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10104 times:

There wasn't already a requirement to hold a valid passport to enter the USA?

V/F



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10094 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 1):
There wasn't already a requirement to hold a valid passport to enter the USA?

Not for U.S. citizens visiting some countries [in LatAm, the Caribbean, and Canada]. Until Dec. 31, 2006.

I received such info from AA today.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html

[Edited 2006-06-29 06:48:49]

User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10084 times:

Yea places like Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas all you needed was a valid birth certificate. I thought for Canada it was effective in May? So does that mean right now no, I can get in with a birth certificate?


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10033 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 3):
So does that mean right now no, I can get in with a birth certificate?



Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
Effective December 31, 2006, all nationals, including U.S. citizens, will be required to hold a valid passport to enter the United States by air and by sea.

Starting 12/31/2006, everybody will need a passport.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10024 times:

Thanks, hopefully my dad can use his Birth Certificate for Canada as I'm the only one in the family who has a passport.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10008 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 5):
hopefully my dad can use his Birth Certificate for Canada

Only before the stated date. After that, he doesn't.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9997 times:

Got it, thanks TACA always a help.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1787 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9980 times:

Just another ploy to get another hundred dollars out of every american. Smile


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9934 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
This also applies when coming from Canada

Considering the amount of information the States and the Provinces share with one another (driving records, tickets etc...) why on earth do they need passports to go north of the 49th? I've long felt they've needed this rule for Mexico with all of the illegals coming across and refusing to learn English. But Canada? We're too much alike and virtually the same country!

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 8):
Just another ploy to get another hundred dollars out of every American.

Just love what funding mechanisms the State Department has, as if the IRS doesn't get us enough!  banghead   devil   gnasher   hissyfit   irked   mad 



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9934 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 8):
Just another ploy to get another hundred dollars out of every american.

Just pure curiosity. How much is the cost of an U.S. passport ? How many days do you need to get one after applying for it ?

Thanks,


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9921 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 7):
Got it, thanks TACA always a help.

You are more than welcome !


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
...virtually the same country!

Uhmmm. Don't think so.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9903 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 12):
Uhmmm. Don't think so.

Perhaps one Province; Quebec



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User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9894 times:

TACA right off the bat if you go the USPS way its about 90 when all is said just for the passport and then if you want it expedited add 50 on for a total of 140; a big rip off as if we fill the book as a lot of travelers do we have to send it back for another 60.


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9870 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 10):
Just pure curiosity. How much is the cost of an U.S. passport ? How many days do you need to get one after applying for it ?

If you ask for expedited service (another $50 I believe) you can get in about 10 business days. The State Department and Homeland Security are putting biometrics into these as well. There is a push for Homeland Security to also help the states out to fund and place biometrics into state issued drivers licenses and ID cards as well. If this is successfully implemented, then it is likely probable that Canada can be eliminated from the passport requirement being put into place for the North American continent for US entry. I think the only reason Canada was included in the first place was political correctness and being even-handed. I already have a passport (have had one for quite some time) and it does make land crossings easier as well as at the airport and reporting to customs going elsewhere or returning to the US. Right now only 25% of Americans hold a valid passport, yet over 50% of Canadians hold one. How could this be?



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9862 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 14):
TACA right off the bat if you go the USPS way its about 90 when all is said just for the passport and then if you want it expedited add 50 on for a total of 140; a big rip off as if we fill the book as a lot of travelers do we have to send it back for another 60.

Kind answer. Thanks !

That's pretty expensive [compared with a passport in my country][around $25 plus $2 for the delivery to your home door]. But we are a poor country...


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9847 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
But we are a poor country...

Compared to your neighbors (Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras) your light years ahead thanks to having democratically elected governments for a comparative long time than a ruling "junta" that oppresses the people, and gets rich from the treasury. Costa Rica is a great country to be from.  veryhappy 



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9810 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
Right now only 25% of Americans hold a valid passport, yet over 50% of Canadians hold one. How could this be?

Unbelievable. The State Department will have a lot of work soon.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 17):
Costa Rica is a great country to be from.

I'm proud to be a Costarican. Thanks a lot for your opinion, and welcome to my RR.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9643 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
Effective December 31, 2006,

it was supposed to be jan 1, 2006, but it was postponed due to lack of ability to get the passports issued in time.



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User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9547 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
But Canada? We're too much alike and virtually the same country!

I do NOT want to be around when the Canadians see THAT one!  Wink

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
Right now only 25% of Americans hold a valid passport, yet over 50% of Canadians hold one. How could this be?

Perhaps because Canada has greater connections with the "Outside World" for want of a better term? The US is huge, an amazing country with loads of variety, 10x Canada's population (roughly!), about half the world's music industry, can provide a greater proportion of it's own food due to spanning warmer climate zones, can provide a greater proportion of its own technology due to a wider economic base - thus less trade needed per capita. Canada is part of the Commonwealth which among other things adds another Olympic Games type event every 4 years, it continues to maintain strong links with both France and the United Kingdom both officially (bilingual) and in the minds of a lot of its people...
I also found when I was in the USA, that it seemed many of its people are taught about only about the USA, and if they're taught about the world at large, it's how a particular country affects the USA. Just some musings on why there might be that difference.

I've been interested for a long time in the difference between foreigners needing a passport, and quite often a visa to visit the USA (although that has been relaxed in the last ten years) - while the border to the North has loads of people crossing using only identity cards, and to a point, the same to the south. It seemed to have really secure entry points in some places, and much less so in others. It sounds like this new system will be both fairer and more secure.

But I had to laugh when filling out my Visa Waiver Form when entering the United States though... among other things I was asked - am I a prostitute, am I seeking to enter the United States to commit a crime, am I a terrorist... (!)
This poor country - those dreadful terrorist attacks and the threat of more are pushing it to become more defensive and insular than ever.

Coming from the country that apparently has the highest passport per capita in the world (though stats are hard to quantify on that!), it was fascinating to see the difference.



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User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9520 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
But Canada? We're too much alike and virtually the same country!



Quoting NZ8800 (Reply 20):
I do NOT want to be around when the Canadians see THAT one!

 Wow!! Actually, it does very much feel like the US and Canada are almost the same country. I spend so much time going back and forth I think it's great. In fact, my main credit card is from Bank of America, my main FF program is Alaska Airlines, I buy half my merchandise from the US, and I have many friends in Washington. Almost forget sometimes!


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7934 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9449 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 8):
Just another ploy to get another hundred dollars out of every american.

Every American?!

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
Right now only 25% of Americans hold a valid passport

Actually it's only 6%.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
But Canada? We're too much alike and virtually the same country!

Oh man. Have you been to Canada? They're not like you guys at all. The accent sounds the same but in every other respect, they're very different (their new mini-me version of Bush in Ottowa may change this, however).



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User currently offlineSmokinL1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9408 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
We're too much alike and virtually the same country!

I'd like to take it upon myself to apologize to any Canadians who may have been deeply offended by this statment.  Wink NO, we are not virtually the same country. Canada is much more progressive and is not so thoroughly controlled by religious dogma and morons from both extremes of the political spectrum. Like most of western Europe they've definately found a more modern balance than we seem to be able to do in the US.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
That's pretty expensive

Yes it is. And is it just me or do we have the most flimsy passports out there? I've lived in several countries and the passports of friends from European countries, Israel, the P.A. and Turkey are so much more sturdy and durable. I wish we'd get a much heavier-duty cover.


User currently offlineLS737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9393 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 5):
Thanks, hopefully my dad can use his Birth Certificate for Canada as I'm the only one in the family who has a passport.

You're not alone. 80% of US citizens do not have a passport, meaning the USA has one of the lowest rates of passport ownership in the developed world.


25 NLINK : Will sure make going thru customs and immigration much faster.
26 Smokeyrosco : As a very good friend of mine told me once when I visited him in Texas: "Why would i go abroad, everything I want is right here"
27 Post contains images Lamedianaranja : I wish it was only a valid passport we need US Immigration wants to know, before take-off, of let's say all 350 passengers on board KL641: are they st
28 MIASkies : Who the heck would travel now a days without a passport anyway!? in my opinion... I sometimes even take it for domestic flights since TSA agents have
29 TACAA320 : Regarding the first quoted question: a lot of American citizens. Because they don't need it [before 12/31/2006], and it is expensive. After such date
30 Commavia : Frankly, I'm glad the U.S.A. is doing this, and honestly feel that it should have happened long ago. A microchip-implanted, machine-readable, imbedded
31 Goaliemn : You can order a larger passport when you renew yours, or you can send it back and they will add pages for free. If you want it expidited, there is th
32 JayinKitsap : The US could create a "passport" card or national ID that would also include the driver's license info with the micro-chip installed. When scanned at
33 SLCUT2777 : The taxes in Canada are no where near what they are in Sweden or Denmark or even the UK for that matter. The western European type of country you're
34 474218 : Just renewed my passport, with pictures and postage total cost was $72.00. That works out to $7.20 a year or $0.60 a month or $0.02 a day. If you can
35 RICARIZA : I don't even know where to start.. Yes, there are many interactions ans similarities between the US and Canada but that doesn't mean they are "virtua
36 Post contains images TACAA320 : Pura vida ! Thanks a lot for your commentaries about my country.
37 Post contains images TANS : I have to say I was pretty surprised when I read that you only needed a birth certificate to visit certain countries in case you were a U.S. citizen.
38 MichiganMAN : I have one issued by the USCIS, it's a permanent resident card.
39 TACAA320 : It might be be a silly question, but what exactly is a "biometric passport" ? Is it an international rule to bear such "kind" of document ? Thanks.
40 TANS : It's a passport that comes with certain embedded information about you. It has a chip, which can be read by special scanners and these can process th
41 LS737 : And Americans wonder why the rest of the world thinks they're insular!
42 TACAA320 : Thanks a lot for your answer.
43 Olli : In Mexico a passport for 10 years cost around $130USD, quite expensive if you ask me, considering our economy. Regards,
44 Post contains images BA747YYZ : Kind of pointless otherwise, everone could just pretend to be a US citizen. And Canadians. Yup Because Americans never leave their own country, or if
45 Gr8Circle : Well, do keep in mind that a birth certificate or other ID's can be forged easily by those who intend harm to the country.....Passports, and more imp
46 TACAA320 : That´s what the link says...
47 Rdwootty : This shows again the Fortress America syndrome... We are BIG so we dont need a passport to travel. What other country has the audacitiy to do this....
48 Goaliemn : Um.. I think it has to do with the fact we have the largest unprotected border on the face of the planet with Canada. I have relatives that own farm
49 Highpeaklad : Payroll taxes in the UK are approximately the same as the US. And you get free healthcare included in that. (assuming a two person household income o
50 Aisak : That's the same case in EU... EU citizens do not need a passport to travel between the 25 countries + Iceland + Norway + Switzerland Most of us at le
51 LTBEWR : There is a possibility that the US and Canadian Governments may issue a class of ID card for travel to (and mainly return back to) each other's countr
52 Post contains links TACAA320 : I'm not doubting about your previous statement. Nevertheless, I find it contradictory with the following: "When will the Travel Initiative be impleme
53 Lamedianaranja : Please add that we do need a identity card, a small version of the passport. To travel between the Schengen-pact countries you do not need either of
54 Aa757first : I just got an expedited (ten days) passport for $131.00 (IIRC), plus a $30.00 fee for the courthouse. You can get double the visa pages free of charg
55 57AZ : Cost is $52 for minors under 16 and $67 for 16 and above. Normal service time is 6/8 weeks, expidited service is $60 more per passport. With postage
56 StanstedFlyer : Sorry?!?! American = Huh! Canadian = Eh! So different.
57 Post contains images YULWinterSkies : I like that comment! Frankly, seen with a European point of view, Canada and the USA are the 2 most resembling countries I know (and I include Quebec
58 Qantas787 : Don't think for one second that Americans are the only people who say that. Plenty of Australians think like that as well.
59 Post contains images Swissy : Living for a long time in Canada I would have to disagree, the USA is not near or even close to the way the Canadians are.... However a Passport might
60 474218 : Not true: Top UK tax rate is 40% of 33,001 pounds (approximately 60,000 dollars). Top US tax rate is 35% of 326,450 dollars.
61 WildcatYXU : Is that valid only for US citizens, or we won't need pasports on land for another year too?
62 Parabolica : Good Evening Gentlemen This thread concerns an increased security requirement for entering the Untied States, a requirement that is in fact standard f
63 Qantas787 : Having driven over 200,000 kms over 25+ years throughout 46 states and counting in the US, and 6 provinces and counting in Canada, I can categorically
64 Post contains images TinkerBelle : Poor in football (at the world cup) yes For $150, good luck. I bet you they can offer to laminate it for you for an extra $200 if they could....just
65 Lt-AWACS : JayinKitsap my Government Passport (the official maroon kind) has more of this info available if you look up the #s in a gov't computer so it is out t
66 Callufrax : For address details, what if you're intending to rent a car and go on a road trip (as I'm intending to during July next year) and, as a result, not k
67 AlexPorter : I believe the 12/31/06 is is only for air and sea crossings, while land crossings don't need one until 12/31/07. As for complaints about having to pay
68 Post contains images SEAPlane10 : An ironic comment coming from a person from a truly insular country!
69 Scintx : I just moved from DTW to DFW my old home town. I changed my address with my insurance company and verbally had to state my nationality to my insurance
70 CetaceanJet : No kidding! I once got the "special" screening because the non-TSA person checking boarding passes and passports at the head of the serpentine didn't
71 RobertS975 : Aren't there still border crossing stations between the US and Canda where they put an orange cone in the middle of the road when they all go home at
72 Post contains images TACAA320 : Not a single doubt about it. My interpretation is that such decision will affect any citizen [U.S. included] entering and/or leaving the U.S..
73 TinkerBelle : lol.. Coming from a Brit, that's funny.
74 Reins485 : I know this is a very low but doesn't Europe larger number due to the fact that for a lot of travel through out Europe requires a passport? Up until
75 RIHNOSAUR : interesting thread.... I have always wondered about what the exact requirements for U.S citizens is when entering/leaving canada . well said I think y
76 NZ8800 : Am pretty sure that every passport issued from 2006 must be for five years only and be biometric, however ten year passports issued before this date
77 Aviationwiz : 10 years if you're 16 and over, and 5 years if you're under 16.
78 Parisien : French new biometric or e-passeport is valid for 10 years. Did not realize that the US demand NZ to reduce their passport validity to 5 years ! Why ?
79 NZ8800 : My apologies.... that was our government's decision when I double checked back via the Ministry Of Internal Affairs. From the Passports Amendment Act
80 Superhub : Actually the questions on the Visa Waiver Form might sound stupid, as if people are going to fill out "yes, i am a terrorist." But actually, if a ter
81 Nzstevenc : Just to clarify, is it: 1) All visitors on the US Visa Waiver Programme will require to hold a biometric passport from 26th October 2006? or 2) All v
82 OzarkD9S : The US is gonna end up like the Kingdom of Bhutan soon: "Entry Permitted by Permission of HM The King ONLY" The United Kingdom of Bushtan. A terrorist
83 Post contains links NZ8800 : Fear not, as long as your passport is Machine Readable it will be fine. Passports used to enter the USA MUST be Machine Readable as of 26 October 2004
84 Bond007 : Errr...why?? We in the US are insular...there's good reasons for it, but let's not kid ourselves about it. My 40-year old better half has only just g
85 Goaliemn : There are unmanned border crossings.. you stop your car, get out and go into a little house, push a button and a speaker/video phone comes on and you
86 ASTROJET707 : In May 2006 flying from SFO to HKG I signed my passport, flipped to the last page and read with HORROR, it was valid for ONLY 12 mos. This was a repla
87 Post contains images SEAPlane10 : Because one of the definitions of insular is "of or related to an island", which Britain is....
88 57AZ : 12/31/06 is in fact for air and sea crossings. Land crossings will require passports on 12/31/07. I ought to e-mail San Francisco and ask what the cur
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