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Any New Republic EMB-170 Routes?  
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3811 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Im asking because ive heard so many great things about them from passengers. I'd like to see where my opportunities are to fly one.

Are they using them in many small markets?

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User currently offlineN9512c From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

I dont know if this helps...http://www.republicairlines.com/images/destinations/map2.pdf


Negative ghotsrider the pattern is full!
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

DCA-SRQ is a new route


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 4441 times:

Quoting N9512c (Reply 1):
I dont know if this helps...http://www.republicairlines.com/images/destinations/map2.pdf

Just keep in mind that the route map has expanded some since MidAtlantic is no longer flying, with Republic taking over all routes now.

MCO-EYW is also a new route.

-SOAC

[Edited 2006-06-29 17:45:19]


Non Illegitimi Carborundum
User currently offlineFlyPWM From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

I'm departing and returning to PWM on E170's. I only hope my flights don't change, I recently heard the USAirways is cutting seats out of Portland. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  cheerful 

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3811 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

PWM gets them, interesting. Id love to see one or two in CRW. Not just for the needed seats, but for the first class.

FlyPWM, Where are you flying one to? Also, do you guys get alot of seasonal service?


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

We do not offer first on the E170 for US. Only the E70's on DL and UA have the F cabin.



Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineGGpillow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

wonderful things?!? republic?!?!

tell that to the USAirways airport workers.. they'll look at you like yer smokin crack!

They're still short 200 FAs... i wonder how many planes are parked cause they don't have crews to fly them??


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3811 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

Oh, I don't know why I thought they did. Thats a shame, First class seats definately make more money than coach.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
We do not offer first on the E170 for US. Only the E70's on DL and UA have the F cabin.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 8):
First class seats definately make more money than coach

I don't think any airline in the US should have a domesticate First Class except for the following routes:

SoFL to Northwest (WA, OR); Northeast (MA, RI, MA, VT, NH) to Southwest (CA, Mex); East coast-hawaii; Midwest/East Coast/Southwest-Alaska..

Otherwise it is completely a waste. No one is going to pay true F fares, but yet they are going to expect Singapore-esque service...

They should just really call them what they are.. Business Class.. and be honest.. serve the free coffee, drinks, liquor, and mini-meal..

If airlines are going to call it F, then damnit.. it should be F.. with a hot 3 course meal (including dessert).. movie monitor at each chair.. soft, cuddly blanket.. internet access... champagne.. real size pillows.. 1x2 (Ejets) or 2x2 (narrowbody)or 2x2x2 (widebody)... disposable slippers for the flight.. and warm towels for cleaning, wiping, relaxing, etc...

Only when the above is achieved should they call it first class..

But that's just my opinion..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineClearedDirect From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

I noticed today a republic routing with the E170 for DL, MCO-FLL. I believe it originated in the northeast. I want to say DCA but not sure.

CD


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months ago) and read 4215 times:

They've replaced 1 daily PHL-DTW CRJ with a 170. Much nicer airplane than a CRJ, but I wasn't impressed by the crew on any of the 4 flights I've taken so far.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months ago) and read 4214 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Thread starter):
Are they using them in many small markets?

Mainline USAirways addes the new cities, not Republic



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3811 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months ago) and read 4206 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 12):
Mainline USAirways addes the new cities, not Republic

Are you saying small markets are exempt from all mainline possibilities?


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months ago) and read 4185 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 13):
Are you saying small markets are exempt from all mainline possibilities?

No, I'm saying USAirways picks the cities.... not Republic. Also, talking 'small markets'... Just how small...?? Keep in mind, the airport is limited in size of the aircraft it can take by the availability of Crash-Rescue. I don't remember were the seating capicity cut off is, but at some point you need to have 24HR, on-site Crash-Rescue. Also, airports have restrictions on the gross weight of aircraft and slot limits. In order for Mid Atlantic to fly the E170 into DCA they had to re-configure the aircraft to meet the requirements.

[Edited 2006-06-30 04:33:22]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

The E70 is operated as US as an originator from DCA.


Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineGGpillow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

EMBQA,

the E170 was a mainline plane at USAirways, and the airports needed to be at USAir mainline op specs.

Part 139 status for an airport does not have any requirements as to the # of seats on an aircraft, AFAIK.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

I hope the E70 will be at JAX while I'm at JU as I would like to hear from ATC "caution wake turbulence, follow the Embraer ahead 6 miles."


Flying you to your destination; your girlfriend to her dreams.
User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Thread starter):
Im asking because ive heard so many great things about them from passengers.

You and I must be talking to different passengers then.  Silly

Quoting GGpillow (Reply 7):
They're still short 200 FAs... i wonder how many planes are parked cause they don't have crews to fly them??

From what I understand, 3 planes (out of 28) not even pretending to fly. And that's not even considering the god-awful utilization on the rest of them.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 14):
In order for Mid Atlantic to fly the E170 into DCA they had to re-configure the aircraft to meet the requirements.

Er, no they didn't. Just the opposite--they got the rules for the commuter slots at DCA changed so that the EMB-170 would qualify.



I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 18):
Er, no they didn't.

Ah, yes they did. The first ten or so aircraft were built as one model, but later reconfigured to a second model to meet the requirments to land at DCA. It really only ended up being a change to the AFM, but the data plates needed to be changed as did the model designation...

[Edited 2006-06-30 12:23:37]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFlyPWM From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

Quoting FlyPWM (Reply 4):
FlyPWM, Where are you flying one to? Also, do you guys get alot of seasonal service?

Departing PWM I'm connecting at DCA to PHX then return to PWM via PHL. I'm not sure on the seasonal service. Carriers tend to add more seats during the summer tourist season and less during the winter months.
 smile 


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3811 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

Quoting FlyPWM (Reply 20):
Departing PWM I'm connecting at DCA to PHX then return to PWM via PHL. I'm not sure on the seasonal service. Carriers tend to add more seats during the summer tourist season and less during the winter months.

Woah. You get the 170 to DCA. Impressive.

Whats the air traffic like during off peak season?


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Here is a question that I had on my mind. Why is Republic the only operator of the 170 in the US? Its a very popular jet with flyers and airplane geeks alike, its very efficient, and has good performance. Yet no one else besides republic (I know technically shuttle america, but its the same parent company) operates the type in the US. Not American Eagle, SkyWest, Air Wisconsin, ExpressJet, Pinnacle, or even Mesa operates the type. You would think this would give a huge advantage to republic on RFPs later on. Also, United touts their Explus service, yet sometimes its on the 170, and sometimes its on a CRJ-700. If you are travelling, which one would you rather have. The 170 just seems like more of the type of product EXPlus is supposed to be than the CRJ.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

Quoting Apodino (Reply 22):
Why is Republic the only operator of the 170 in the US?

Republic is not the only operator of the E170 in the US. Shuttle America also flies the E170 for United and Delta. Yes, Shuttle America falls under the Republic Air Group, but is concidered a full seperate airline. Although an E190... jetBlue flies them as well.

Quoting A330323X (Reply 18):
Er, no they didn't.

..and while at work today I did a little research. The first 7 of Mid Atlantic E170's were built as EMB-170LR's but later converted to EMB-170SU's. This was only an AFM change, but was done to meet the requirements to fly them into DCA.

[Edited 2006-06-30 21:49:47]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

my little brother flies E-170 for republic. he told me last night they are starting DCA- bradenton, fl. under US.


Desmond MacRae in ILM
25 EMBQA : American Eagle, ExpressJet and Pinnacle can't fly them because of their pilot contracts with their mainline carrier. There has been talk about Mesa l
26 FutureFO : GO has been looking at the 195's for the HI ops. The 170 is a greater airplane than the CR7. S5 and RW are seperate operating certificates but the pay
27 TOLtommy : Republic had contracts with the majors who could allow a regional to fly a 70 seater. At the time NW mainline pilot contract restricted anything over
28 ASFlyer : You're kidding, right? Nobody actually pays to sit in F anymore, except on a VERY few premium routes (BOS/IAD/JFK-LAX/SFO). F is full of people upgra
29 KcrwFlyer : That may be the true about half the time. However there are routes where first class tickets are bought every day. What about Business class?
30 ASFlyer : Many First Class tickets are purchased every day. The percentage of actual paid full fare First Class seats is probably somewhere around 20%, if that
31 CRJ900 : What about the E+ seats on the CRJ700 (and E170...?), do pax actually pay for those seats or are they mostly upgrades too?
32 KcrwFlyer : But what about the business cabin?
33 ASFlyer : AirTran is the only airline to market and sell a "Business Class" cabin for travel within the U.S. - The one exception may be AA a couple of their tr
34 DeltAirlines : I'd say trans-cons and select high-premium (e.g. LGA/JFK-MIA, etc.) will have paid F fares. I know that many of the peak hour flights from BOS/LGA to
35 FCYTravis : No, not at all, really. The number of F seats used for mileage-burned upgrades is tiny compared to the number of F seats distributed to elite members
36 NoBoeingNoGoin : My question is why does HSV get a daily 170 from DCA with US? I am an agt in TYS and every day I cringe when I see this flight leave with 17 inbound a
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