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Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2151 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

A very theoretical question... considering the delay of the A380's and the serious implications this will have on their expansion plans, could we perhaps see a dry/damp lease of the largest Boeing model to cover the gap?

EK are apparently desperate for a larger pax model and were counting on the A380 to help ease some of the constraints. And the 773ER's are not coming fast enough, though, these Boeings are very much on time and as per the delivery schedule. Big grin

They pulled off a similar “stunt” before with the acquisition of A343's from Boeing Capital to help growth...

What are your thoughts?

Kafa, čaj, šraf?

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Icarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

I was in DXB on June, 30th and, even if it was a little far, I'm sure I've seen a pax 747 parked with EK colours.
So, doesn't EK halready has 744?

Flying is amazing!

JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2151 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 1):
I was in DXB on June, 30th and, even if it was a little far, I'm sure I've seen a pax 747 parked with EK colours.
So, doesn't EK halready has 744?

EK Cargo... 744 Freighters...

Kafa, čaj, šraf?

Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

There are currently no 747-400s for lease available...

Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2869 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 3):
There are currently no 747-400s for lease available...

Any links regarding to that post? I suppose there are a lot of Jumbos standing in the deserts...

Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
Any links regarding to that post?

Well, you could try a search under 'aircraft available' at:

http://www.speednews.com

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
I suppose there are a lot of Jumbos standing in the deserts...

Jumbos yes, but apparently only 747-100 or 747-200.

Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2869 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 5):
Well, you could try a search under 'aircraft available' at:

http://www.speednews.com

THX for that site! It's very interesting...

TwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

why has EK never ordered 747's?

Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 783 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 7):

´Cuz EK ordered 45 A380 and some 773ER. No need for 747s.....yet.

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Micke//SWE Smile

Airbus SAS - Love them both

F.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

According to that site there are 3 744 available, N106UA, N185UA and N192UA, United Airlines 744s, all of them have P&W engines

TwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

well even before ordering the 773's and A380's, why didnt they buy 747's?

Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 10):
well even before ordering the 773's and A380's, why didnt they buy 747's?

Well, they always have a theory of staying with the most modern aircraft possible. At the time the 747-400 was "modern," the largest aircraft EK had was the 777-200ER, and they didn't have a crazy eye for expansion.

When they did get their expansion craze, the A380 was already in development.

TL925 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

I doubt it would be economical for EK to bring a new aircraft type into its fleet for a stop-gap duration of time. The three ex-UA aircraft available for sale have been parked since post 9/11, and are in need of SIGNIFICANT maintenance work to be brought back into servicable condition. Also, as mentioned above these aircraft are Pratt powered while EK's current 744F fleet is GE powered.

The only feasible way to bring in B744 capacity would be an ACMI contract (similar to what Iberia did with their recently returned 744's with Air Atlanta Icelandic), but I am not sure whether Emirates would be interested in this type of option.

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