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Nice News Article About NWA's DC-10's  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3047 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

Just come accross this news article about the DC-10 and Northwest retriring them.

End of an Era at Northwest - TheStreet.com

It gives you a bit of an insight about the aircraft, with it being retired and how this will effect the airline and certain employees who fly this.

I never knew pilots over 60 in the US could be no higher than second-officers (flight engineers). This sounds a bit stupid and as long as the pilots are fit and well and under-go regular medicals, there should be no concerns about them flying as captains or first-officers.

Is there a similar rule in Europe, or would this be classifed as Age Disciminaton?

It also asks the infamous question about the DC-9's!

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User currently offlineDABTH From Germany, joined Aug 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4770 times:

Quite sad to see them go...will miss them at FRA.
Also this is sad for the remaining flight egineers. Hopefully most will get a job on those 742s... regards  Smile


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Thanks for sharing the article.

Wow! A 6,100 gallon-per-trip fuel burn difference between the DC-10-30 and A330 on the MSP-AMS route! That adds up pretty fast.

While it is sad to see the DC-10s leave front-line passenger service, I think their 34-year run is very impressive.


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

I love the quote:

"The DC10 is a reliable airplane, fun to fly, roomy and quiet, kind of like flying an old Cadillac Fleetwood," says Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association. "We're sad to see an old friend go."

"When we landed them in Europe, guys from other airlines would come over and look at them," Blaufuss says. "You don't see them much anymore. They're kind of antiques."

Really sums it all up. These newer planes, they don't have the character of the older L1011's, DC10's, 727's, 720's, 707's.

Long live the DC-10! Long live the classic tri-jet's!

[Edited 2006-07-02 18:21:43]

User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Sad to see the old girl go but if its a 6,100 gallon saving per trip it's inevitable. I figure NWA has about 13 daily trips across the Atlantic (AMS/CDG/LGW) at $2 gallon thats about $58M a year one-way saving for an A330 over a DC10 on all routes. $115M+ a year if you figure the round trip. Hard to ignore that kind of money.

NWA claim a 30% saving for a new A330 over a DC10..easy to see the economics of the decision, even if a little more character is about to leave the passenger skies.


User currently offlineRMD11 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4356 times:

Might be going to HNL in december hope to hop on one, btw what other routesare they used on?


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User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5198 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

"The DC-9 fleet has an average age of 40 years"

DC-9-10's came out in 1965, the -30 after that. ALL of NW's DC-9's would have had to have been delivered between '65 and '67 for that statement to be true. I find it highly unlikely.



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 6):
DC-9-10's came out in 1965, the -30 after that. ALL of NW's DC-9's would have had to have been delivered between '65 and '67 for that statement to be true. I find it highly unlikely.

I can back you up there. The oldest DC 9 NW has in service in N8920E, a former
Eastern bird, built in January of 67. I saw N8921E at DTW last week.
safe



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User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5198 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 7):


I can back you up there. The oldest DC 9 NW has in service in N8920E, a former
Eastern bird, built in January of 67. I saw N8921E at DTW last week.
safe

I figured as much...35 years, MAYBE...40? No way.
Thanks.



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