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New NZ Start-up : FirstJet.com  
User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5082 times:
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Hello.....

It seems as if Qantas, Air New Zealand and Origin Pacific are set to face some new competition on intra-new zealand routes as a new airline, "FirstJet.com," are about to launch services before the year's end. The new airline claims that it will initiate services with a single 737 aircraft and then expand it's fleet to 5 737 aircraft before the end of the first financial year.

"We are a new airline in our formative stages. Our initial operation will be based in Auckland flying New Zealand domestic flights at extremely low fares. Currently we are confirming aircraft, and we hope to initiate services before the end of 2006!"

Full details & Airline website : www.firstjet.zor.org

Is this ridiculous or well over-due for New Zealand? Your thoughts on this are much appreciated.

Thanks,
Colin

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Let's see -

Free domain
Free website hosting
A prepaid mobile number as official contact

I'm picking ridiculous.



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

Quote:
It is company policy to offer the lowest fares available, by a country mile! Our current projected fare table has the highest fare, for Auckland - Queenstown, set at $12! This fare includes all taxes and charges applicable! The initial route we will fly, Auckland - Wellington, will have an Advance Fare of just $2 and a Walkon Fare of only $4!

And they intend to make money how?

V/F



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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5032 times:
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Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 2):
And they intend to make money how?

It says on their website that they are going to advertise the planes for marketing, similar to what Ryanair had done with it's 732's.


User currently offlineNZFan From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 75 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

i don't think that any of the existing airlines will be worried about that airline. look how that picture of the plane looks like it was made in MS Paint, pixellated etc...

User currently onlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

Time will tell what happens. But judging by the website, it looks more like a virtual airline for flight sim than a real world carrier

User currently offlineNZFan From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 75 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

and i don't even see how with advertising they'd have fare cheaper than a bus ride from the city to the airport.

and those ridiculous 10,000 1c tickets? for sure there will be idiots bying those. i guess it'll be 100% margins cause they won't be any flight. easy way of making a quick $100? (or whatever that amount is. Math's never been my forte)

[Edited 2006-07-05 13:19:22]

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Quoting TG992 (Reply 1):
I'm picking ridiculous.

I can't find any sign of them on the Companies Office register either...

V/F



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User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

They must have read up on RYANAIR.
"COMING SOON
10,000 seats between WELLINGTON or AUCKLAND for just 1c! "

"has the highest fare, for Auckland - Queenstown, set at $12! This fare includes all taxes and charges applicable! The initial route we will fly, Auckland - Wellington, will have an Advance Fare of just $2 and a Walkon Fare of only $4!"

FirstJet.com- Your Favorite Airline

"Ready to fly our sexy green jets and discover our awesome service?."

-sounds like a little kid wrote that, SEXY GREEN JET?

I don't know, I guess We'll have to see how it does. one problem is that New Zealand isn't that big. Were as in Europe with Ryan air there are alot of people over there, and younger people traveling, so theres a market. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.



to some people the sky is the limit, to aviation enthusiasts, its home!
User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4940 times:

Well if they're going to fly to "every destination in the country", they are going to need another aircraft type than just a 737! Just try getting a fully loaded 737 out of New Plymouth, let alone Whangarei...

Even if they do have a European model of service, they will not have the wide European customer base required to get that economy of scale and be successful. Also, as above, this country is not covered with 1900m runways supporting full passenger loaded 737s like Europe is...

They'd be taking an awful risk, pinning it all on advertising everywhere and basically being a flying advertisement mark ten and carrying passengers about as a sideline!!!

Time will tell, but on available evidence I doubt Air New Zealand, Origin Pacific, or Qantas have anything to worry about.

How did you find this, Planemanofnz?



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8445 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Have any of you bothered to read the disclamer on the contact page?

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4913 times:
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I love the fact that they say they will be flying 737's when they have a picture of the nose of an Airbus.

User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Have any of you bothered to read the disclamer on the contact page?

 rotfl 

"FirstJet Airline Holdings Ltd and its shareholders take no responsibility for any incorrect or untrue information. If any information is, it is purely deliberate and for draft demonstration purposes only."

I call BS on this one....  Smile


User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Are you joking? Some of you actually think this thing is for real??

It looks like the website was designed by a 7 year old. I'm sure if any airline intended to start ops in NZ it would be in the media.

How would they afford to lease an aircraft when they cannot afford to purchase a proper website?

NZ747


User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

LOL wasnt april a few months ago?

Then again its school holidays in NZ so some kid or kids probalay thought it would be fun or maybe it was a school project!!



Qantas, Still calling Australia Home.........
User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

hahahahah what a joke, does sound good - if only true! where would they park their aircraft at AKL, (the international Terminal ) lol's , dout the airline will every get its wings , tho do the like the fare of $12 ! cheaper then the bus into central Auckland heheh, perhaps we could fly it !!


NZ 787-9 flying between PVG - AKL ! CAN'T WAIT!!
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3213 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

hmm.... guys from your comments im not even going to bother take this one seriously but i would like to point out, i was in NZ two weeks ago and domestic airfares were about double the price of similar flights within Australia.

My guess is, there is actually room for a little competition.... however given teh current configuration adopted by Air NZ and QF, they basically are already set up for lowco ops.... they could quicly lower the price and kill anybody with frequencies unless who ever it was, was extremely well cashed up.


User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4495 times:
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I think there is room for competition in this market but I do think the whole 'advertising campaign' is risky business too. Would there be any room for them to operate from any of the current domestic terminal facilities in NZ airports?

Also, speaking of New Zealand start-ups, what happened to "Jump Airlines" who wanted to start NZ domestic ops a few years back with 73G's? Could this be a revival from that?

Quoting NZ8800 (Reply 9):
How did you find this, Planemanofnz?

Searching "New Zealand airline" on www.dogpile.com

[Edited 2006-07-06 03:59:17]

User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2254 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4458 times:
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I can't believe this has sucked so many of you guys in.

Just a few bored schoolkids IMO.

NZ1


User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 17):
Would there be any room for them to operate from any of the current domestic terminal facilities in NZ airports?

Dunedin has a HUGE space now with the airport pretty much finished being revamped, and they only have SJ and NZ operating out of DUD, they are looking for another airline. But wouldnt be enough traffic domestically.



Qantas, Still calling Australia Home.........
User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Quoting NZ747 (Reply 13):
It looks like the website was designed by a 7 year old



Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 14):
Then again its school holidays in NZ so some kid or kids probalay thought it would be fun or maybe it was a school project!!

He/She should get good marks for this!

For the record I don't tihnk any LCC would target WLG as it's first route or for it's "1c" route. PPQ with a A318 maybe???? (is it long enough now??) or wiyj a ATR72.



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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
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Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 19):
DUD, they are looking for another airline

Qantas??


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